Re: get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 11:04:10PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Theo, > > you have a point, that was a lot of cheap talk and no patch. > > I don't aim at changing yacc(1) grammars. I think most parts of > OpenBSD configuration systems already have sane defaults and most > configuration synta

Re: get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Theo de Raadt
Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Indeed. When i talk about quality of documentation - which i did > at multiple conferences, last time 2018 in Bucuresti - one of the > first sentences i almost always say is: > > Documentation must be correct, complete, concise, all in one > place, marked up for displ

Re: get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, Theo de Raadt wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:33:37PM -0700: > Jason McIntyre wrote: >> without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i >> personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial >> as to be questionable) nor the addition to the ma

Re: get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:33:37PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Jason McIntyre wrote: > > > without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i > > personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial > > as to be questionable) nor the addition to the man pag

Re: get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Joerg Jung
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:33:37PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Jason McIntyre wrote: > > > without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i > > personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial > > as to be questionable) nor the addition to the man pag

Re: get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Theo de Raadt
Jason McIntyre wrote: > without getting into a discussion about /etc/examples, in this case i > personally see neither the point of the example config file (so trivial > as to be questionable) nor the addition to the man page (if the example > is worthwhile, add it to mixerctl, not the conf page)

Re: get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 11:04:10PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Theo, > > you have a point, that was a lot of cheap talk and no patch. > > I don't aim at changing yacc(1) grammars. I think most parts of > OpenBSD configuration systems already have sane defaults and most > configuration synta

get rid of almost empty /etc/examples/mixerctl.conf

2020-02-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Theo, you have a point, that was a lot of cheap talk and no patch. I don't aim at changing yacc(1) grammars. I think most parts of OpenBSD configuration systems already have sane defaults and most configuration syntaxes are already good with respect to simplicity and usability. At least "mos