Re: remove twm(1) from xenocara ?

2022-07-19 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 10:38:53AM +0200, Matthieu Herrb wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> twm(1) is the original X11R5 window manager. It has not been update to
> support any of the extended window manager hints and still only knows
> how to handle the legacy bitmapped fonts rendered by the X server.
> 
> In ports we have x11/ctwm which, for people looking at legacy stuff, is
> superior ihmo.
> 
> I'm suggesting here to drop twm from xenocara (ie xbase).
> 
> Anyone willing to keep it around is welcome to submit a port for it.

Thanks for all the feedback. twm is going to stay. I'll update it
soon.

-- 
Matthieu Herrb



Re: remove twm(1) from xenocara ?

2022-07-18 Thread gwes

I use it, have used it, and will continue to use it full time.
It is simple, low resource use and works on any system I have.
I don't need any more functionality in a window manager.
Anything else can be added on.

The argument presented is something like "why would anyone want to do that".

geoff steckel

On 7/18/22 23:49, Andrei wrote:

I would support this. Nobody uses twm for anything other than system rescue, 
and cwm works great for that.

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On Sunday, July 17th, 2022 at 8:38 AM, Matthieu Herrb  
wrote:





Re: remove twm(1) from xenocara ?

2022-07-18 Thread Janne Johansson
I think cwm works fine for that and it is still there.

Den mån 18 juli 2022 08:39Alessandro De Laurenzis 
skrev:

> This is just the perspective of a user (even less: my _personal_
> perspective).
>
> Removing twm would be a mistake in my opinion. It is still pretty
> functional and, when correctly configured, useful for server maintenance.
> And having it available in stock X11 is a definitely a plus.
>
> Cheers
>
> On July 17, 2022 10:38:53 AM GMT+02:00, Matthieu Herrb <
> matth...@openbsd.org> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >twm(1) is the original X11R5 window manager. It has not been update to
> >support any of the extended window manager hints and still only knows
> >how to handle the legacy bitmapped fonts rendered by the X server.
> >
> >In ports we have x11/ctwm which, for people looking at legacy stuff, is
> >superior ihmo.
> >
> >I'm suggesting here to drop twm from xenocara (ie xbase).
> >
> >Anyone willing to keep it around is welcome to submit a port for it.
> >
> >ok ?
> >--
> >Matthieu Herrb
> >
>
> --
> Alessandro De Laurenzis


Re: remove twm(1) from xenocara ?

2022-07-18 Thread Alessandro De Laurenzis
This is just the perspective of a user (even less: my _personal_ perspective).

Removing twm would be a mistake in my opinion. It is still pretty functional 
and, when correctly configured, useful for server maintenance. And having it 
available in stock X11 is a definitely a plus.

Cheers

On July 17, 2022 10:38:53 AM GMT+02:00, Matthieu Herrb  
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>twm(1) is the original X11R5 window manager. It has not been update to
>support any of the extended window manager hints and still only knows
>how to handle the legacy bitmapped fonts rendered by the X server.
>
>In ports we have x11/ctwm which, for people looking at legacy stuff, is
>superior ihmo.
>
>I'm suggesting here to drop twm from xenocara (ie xbase).
>
>Anyone willing to keep it around is welcome to submit a port for it.
>
>ok ?
>-- 
>Matthieu Herrb
>

-- 
Alessandro De Laurenzis

remove twm(1) from xenocara ?

2022-07-17 Thread Matthieu Herrb
Hi,

twm(1) is the original X11R5 window manager. It has not been update to
support any of the extended window manager hints and still only knows
how to handle the legacy bitmapped fonts rendered by the X server.

In ports we have x11/ctwm which, for people looking at legacy stuff, is
superior ihmo.

I'm suggesting here to drop twm from xenocara (ie xbase).

Anyone willing to keep it around is welcome to submit a port for it.

ok ?
-- 
Matthieu Herrb