Re: core's decision on modular kernels

2011-09-23 Thread Jukka Ruohonen
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:35:02PM +0100, David Laight wrote: I think that by MODULAR with built-in modules, you mean a barebones kernel linked with some .kmod's? I would love to see that. What has to happen to make it so? Probably just some 'round tuits'. Mostly in the area of

Re: core's decision on modular kernels

2011-09-23 Thread David Laight
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 07:13:16PM +0300, Jukka Ruohonen wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:35:02PM +0100, David Laight wrote: I think that by MODULAR with built-in modules, you mean a barebones kernel linked with some .kmod's? I would love to see that. What has to happen to make it so?

Re: core's decision on modular kernels

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Barrett
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Martin S. Weber wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 07:55:38AM +0200, Alan Barrett wrote: - A port's MONOLITHIC kernel should include features that traditionally would have been present in a non-modular GENERIC kernel, and it may or may not include options MODULAR, at the

Re: core's decision on modular kernels

2011-09-22 Thread David Laight
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:09:58AM +0200, Alan Barrett wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Martin S. Weber wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 07:55:38AM +0200, Alan Barrett wrote: - A port's MONOLITHIC kernel should include features that traditionally would have been present in a non-modular GENERIC

Re: core's decision on modular kernels

2011-09-22 Thread David Young
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:53:53AM +0100, David Laight wrote: What is the difference between MONOLITHIC and MODULAR with 'built-in' modules? And wouldn't the latter be a better aim?? I think that by MODULAR with built-in modules, you mean a barebones kernel linked with some .kmod's? I would

Re: core's decision on modular kernels

2011-09-22 Thread David Laight
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:08:02AM -0500, David Young wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:53:53AM +0100, David Laight wrote: What is the difference between MONOLITHIC and MODULAR with 'built-in' modules? And wouldn't the latter be a better aim?? I think that by MODULAR with built-in modules,

core's decision on modular kernels

2011-09-20 Thread Alan Barrett
Dear NetBSD users, The NetBSD core group has discussed the questions presented to us about the situation with modules and modular kernels. We understand that there are problems with modularization on all the platforms, specially on amd64, and we have seen a lot of breakage due to them in the