Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread MLH
> However, I must say I'm still a bit confused by this answer (and the others > I've seen). Do you understand that PF is a clear security risk for your > system? Yes, I see you keep agreeing that NetBSD has no safely working packet filter. We are patiently waiting for one. Since NetBSD v1.2 in

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Mouse
>> I continue to use pf and not npf because : [...] > However, I must say I'm still a bit confused by this answer (and the > others I've seen). Do you understand that PF is a clear security > risk for your system? Is it? Do you know MLH's systems enough to know whether any of the known

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Maxime Villard
Le 02/04/2019 à 20:46, MLH a écrit : I continue to use pf and not npf because : 1) I couldn't get std rulesets to seem to work (been a while though) 2) no port redirection 3) dynamic ruleset use didn't appear to be adequate 4) greylisting (not just email) for custom stuff that I can't see

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread MLH
I continue to use pf and not npf because : 1) I couldn't get std rulesets to seem to work (been a while though) 2) no port redirection 3) dynamic ruleset use didn't appear to be adequate 4) greylisting (not just email) for custom stuff that I can't see how to support in npf. 5) Needs far more

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Robert Swindells
On 2019-04-01 22:30, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2019-04-01 15:16, Emmanuel Dreyfus wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2019, Maxime Villard wrote: 2) If the effort had been on one firewall instead of three, the one chosen would be more functional. Well, I cannot tell for PF, but IPF is functionnal, I use

Re: Proposal: new audio framework

2019-04-02 Thread Michael
Hello, On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 16:10:58 +0900 Tetsuya Isaki wrote: > At Mon, 1 Apr 2019 03:24:15 -0400, > Michael wrote: > > > There is one thing I'm worried about. AUDIO2 requires more strict > > > blocksize and buffersize for hardware drivers. It will be a hard > > > work if there are any

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Staffan Thomén
m...@netbsd.org wrote: I think it's very telling that all the people arguing back are using ipf, not pf. I suspect anyone that was using pf on NetBSD is no longer using NetBSD. To keep the anecdotes going, I am using pf on NetBSD as my primary firewall. Staffan

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Mindaugas Rasiukevicius
Jan Danielsson wrote: > On 2019-04-02 08:53, Martin Husemann wrote: > >> This, exactly, is the showstopper that has prevented me from moving to > >> npf. The ability to add/remove IP addresses from a NAT translation > >> without changing npf.conf doesn't seem to be possible in any > >>

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread maya
I think it's very telling that all the people arguing back are using ipf, not pf. I suspect anyone that was using pf on NetBSD is no longer using NetBSD. I certainly saw people ragequit NetBSD after their obviously remotely exploited bug reports were ignored. We can't keep having this minefield

Re: Proposal: new audio framework

2019-04-02 Thread David Brownlee
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 08:11, Tetsuya Isaki wrote: > Here is details: > > On -current, as you know, blocksize are decided as follows: > 1. audio layer selects some size and ask it to hardawre driver. > This is round_blocksize interface. > 2. if hardware driver cannot accept the size (for

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Stephen Borrill
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2019-04-01 15:16, Emmanuel Dreyfus wrote: On Sat, 30 Mar 2019, Maxime Villard wrote: 2) If the effort had been on one firewall instead of three, the one chosen would be more functional. Well, I cannot tell for PF, but IPF is functionnal, I use it

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Martin Husemann
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 11:02:56AM +0200, Jan Danielsson wrote: >2) Hey, I'm at a.b.c.d, and I would like external port X to redirect > to me at port Y. (NAT rule, this isn't supported yet). OK, but that is easy to add. Martin

Re: Removing PF

2019-04-02 Thread Jan Danielsson
On 2019-04-02 08:53, Martin Husemann wrote: >> This, exactly, is the showstopper that has prevented me from moving to >> npf. The ability to add/remove IP addresses from a NAT translation >> without changing npf.conf doesn't seem to be possible in any >> documentation I was able to find. > > It is

Re: Proposal: new audio framework

2019-04-02 Thread Tetsuya Isaki
Hi, At Mon, 1 Apr 2019 03:24:15 -0400, Michael wrote: > > There is one thing I'm worried about. AUDIO2 requires more strict > > blocksize and buffersize for hardware drivers. It will be a hard > > work if there are any hardware that does not satisfy the requirements. > > # Although I believe