Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread David Holland
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 01:33:22AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > | (what are the odds that anyone > | on a slow machine will ever look at lam(1)?) > > I must admit that I'd never looked at lam(1) - on any speed of machine. > > But when I did just now, just for the thrill of it, I see ...

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread John Nemeth
On Oct 25, 16:22, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: } On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 03:45:56PM -0400, Mouse wrote: } > } > I once had an hp300 with all of 5M of RAM. Years ago, when I had it } > running, thorpej told me it was quite possibly an instance of the } > slowest machine then supported by NetBSD.

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Sun, 25 Oct 2020 15:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From:Mouse Message-ID: <202010251945.paa14...@stone.rodents-montreal.org> | Wasn't the /725 slower, or am I misremembering? Never saw one, so can't compare, but it is hard to imagine that DEC would go build something even

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Anders Magnusson
Den 2020-10-25 kl. 17:29, skrev Joerg Sonnenberger: On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:41:16AM -0400, Mouse wrote: Of course groff's even slower, but mandoc is faster -- than groff, at least, dunno about heritage nroff. Is there a noticeable delay with mandoc even on our slowest supported hardware? It

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 03:45:56PM -0400, Mouse wrote: > > I once had an hp300 with all of 5M of RAM. Years ago, when I had it > running, thorpej told me it was quite possibly an instance of the > slowest machine then supported by NetBSD. (Amusingly, at the same time > I had an alpha that he

Re: Proposal to import window(1) into the base

2020-10-25 Thread Valery Ushakov
Christos Zoulas wrote: > In article , > Valery Ushakov wrote: >>Alistair Crooks wrote: >> >>> If it comes back, it needs to be modified to use curses - the hardcoded >>> terminal escapes for a bunch of 1970s terminals is kinda cute in a retro >>> way; it's also kinda embarassing. >> >>From a

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Mouse
> [...] To merge the lines from four > different files use >lam file1 -s "\ >" file2 file3 file4 > which cannot be right, [...]. More likely a string containing just > a newline is what is wanted, in which case the '\' MUST be omitted. That depends on the

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Mouse
>> Physical VAX, but don't know the details. > Do we support the 11/730 - if there's any unix running 32 bit (or > wider) system that's well known, and slower, I've never heard of it. Wasn't the /725 slower, or am I misremembering? I do recall that, back when I was at McGill, we had a /780, two

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Sun, 25 Oct 2020 17:29:02 +0100 From:Joerg Sonnenberger Message-ID: <20201025162902.ga112...@bec.de> | Physical VAX, but don't know the details. Do we support the 11/730 - if there's any unix running 32 bit (or wider) system that's well known, and slower,

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Sun, 25 Oct 2020 01:38:16 + From:David Holland Message-ID: <20201025013816.ga28...@netbsd.org> | (what are the odds that anyone | on a slow machine will ever look at lam(1)?) I must admit that I'd never looked at lam(1) - on any speed of machine. But

Re: [PATCH] Fix printf(1) for integer larger than INTMAX_MAX

2020-10-25 Thread aran
All, > Some shells have its own built-in versions of printf(1). Sure enough. $/usr/bin/printf "%x\n" 0xc000 printf: 0xc000: Result too large or too small 7fff pgp2jXEFLUZv3.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [PATCH] Fix printf(1) for integer larger than INTMAX_MAX

2020-10-25 Thread aran
All, > I forgot to mention in the previous message: %[oux] also fail for numbers > larger than 1<<63: > > $ printf '%x\n' 0xc000 > printf: 0xc000: Result too large or too small > 7fff I am seeing something different: $printf '0x%x\n' 0xc000

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:41:16AM -0400, Mouse wrote: > >> Of course groff's even slower, but mandoc is faster -- than groff, > >> at least, dunno about heritage nroff. Is there a noticeable delay > >> with mandoc even on our slowest supported hardware? It might very > >> well be fine. > > Last

Re: [PATCH] Fix printf(1) for integer larger than INTMAX_MAX

2020-10-25 Thread Rin Okuyama
Hi, On 2020/10/26 0:21, a...@100acres.us wrote: All, I forgot to mention in the previous message: %[oux] also fail for numbers larger than 1<<63: $ printf '%x\n' 0xc000 printf: 0xc000: Result too large or too small 7fff I am seeing something different:

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Mouse
>> Of course groff's even slower, but mandoc is faster -- than groff, >> at least, dunno about heritage nroff. Is there a noticeable delay >> with mandoc even on our slowest supported hardware? It might very >> well be fine. > Last time I tried measuring it, it took less than 2s to render gcc.1,

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 08:35:47PM -0400, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: > Of course groff's even slower, but mandoc is faster -- than groff, at > least, dunno about heritage nroff. Is there a noticeable delay with > mandoc even on our slowest supported hardware? It might very well be > fine. Last

Re: Proposal to drop MKCATPAGES

2020-10-25 Thread Michael van Elst
dholland-t...@netbsd.org (David Holland) writes: >Also, if we do have a platform where it's too slow and anyone actually >cares, We spend more for HTML pages without a viewer in base. -- -- Michael van Elst Internet: mlel...@serpens.de