Re: ZFS - mounting filesystems (Was CVS commit: src/etc)

2022-03-17 Thread Christian Groessler
On 3/17/22 15:17, Mouse wrote: 3. Move all ZFS mounts to /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal . 3 is the only thing here I object to because it is architecturally unclean, giving special semantics to zfs. ZFS is already architecturally unclean, in that it means that /etc/fstab no longer describes the

Re: proposal: remove traditional C support from lint

2021-03-17 Thread Christian Groessler
On 3/17/21 2:32 PM, Hauke Fath wrote: OTOH, I guess I‘ve seen too many people trying to be productive by removing features that _they_ don't need... +1 That seems to be a "modern" way of contributing, without much need for knowledge...

Re: Proposal to remove catman(8)

2020-11-10 Thread Christian Groessler
On 11/11/20 12:49 AM, Christian Groessler wrote: On 11/11/20 12:17 AM, Jaromír Doleček wrote: Le mar. 10 nov. 2020 à 23:45, Mouse a écrit : And, of course, when you're up single-user is, generally, when you're least able to bring other tools to bear or the like, and when you're possibly most

Re: Proposal to remove catman(8)

2020-11-10 Thread Christian Groessler
On 11/11/20 12:17 AM, Jaromír Doleček wrote: Le mar. 10 nov. 2020 à 23:45, Mouse a écrit : And, of course, when you're up single-user is, generally, when you're least able to bring other tools to bear or the like, and when you're possibly most likely need to know how to use a command you

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-17 Thread Christian Groessler
This is getting OT... On 2/17/19 11:18 PM, Christos Zoulas wrote: On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:49 PM, John Nemeth wrote: On Feb 17, 10:33am, Christos Zoulas wrote: } On Feb 17, 11:45am, ch...@groessler.org (Christian Groessler) wrote: } | On 2/17/19 5:52 AM, John Nemeth wrote: } | > } We res

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-17 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/17/19 10:05 PM, David Holland wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 07:57:52PM +, David Holland wrote: > Why? Does every terminal window out there have the same background > color? So, just for shits and giggles, here's twenty xterm color pairs from my master list of decently legible and

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-17 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/17/19 2:19 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Printing yellow letters is readable on black background, but problematic on white. And printing red letters is readable on white background, but problematic on black.

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-17 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/17/19 5:52 AM, John Nemeth wrote: } We resist also personal taste but aesthetics is also important for } many/most(?) people. For the some reason probably nobody deliberately } watches black-white TV and old valuable movies are now often painted. Many people consider this to be

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-16 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/16/19 7:14 AM, Anders Magnusson wrote: Don't know Debian, but at least Redhat: [ragge@beta ~]$ ls -l /etc/profile.d/colorls.csh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1741 30 jun  2016 /etc/profile.d/colorls.csh Ok. I'm seeing colorls.sh and colorls.csh in /etc/profile.d on a Fedora 27 box. My point

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/16/19 3:16 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: On 16.02.2019 03:03, Christian Groessler wrote: Me not. Let's agree to disagree... Does it mean that people not interested in music can now prompt for removing audio support? If they are not interested in it they can move on and ignore

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/16/19 2:35 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: On 16.02.2019 02:14, m...@netbsd.org wrote: There's a topic on peace-keeping in a large project. There are two types of feedback: - "this change makes the code simpler and twice as fast" (it's objectively better) - "I like colorful terminals" (my

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/16/19 1:08 AM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: On 16.02.2019 00:49, Paul Goyette wrote: It's been solved already - it's in pkgsrc. I find it a little bit overkill to replace ls with gls and in some cases it doesn't work (gnu ps on NetBSD? color-vmstat?). I am not objecting to implementing

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/15/19 10:45 PM, m...@netbsd.org wrote: Consider the problem of compilers emitting messages for bad code. You'll have like 3 warnings and 2 errors, and possibly 2 page fulls of messages. You want to improve things, make it faster to find the problem, so you would like the error to be more

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/15/19 10:28 PM, m...@netbsd.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:17:55PM +0100, Christian Groessler wrote: On 2/15/19 8:15 PM, m...@netbsd.org wrote: For the record I support the change. I don't think it's very hard not to turn on colors. You can turn them off even in linux. "Yo

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/15/19 10:20 PM, Anders Magnusson wrote: Den 2019-02-15 kl. 22:17, skrev Christian Groessler: On 2/15/19 8:15 PM, m...@netbsd.org wrote: For the record I support the change. I don't think it's very hard not to turn on colors. You can turn them off even in linux. "You can turn the

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/15/19 8:35 PM, m...@netbsd.org wrote: Adding to the previous: - I will personally use it (especially if fish knows to automatically use it) What's the problem in installing "colorls" from pkgsrc? I'm typically installing a bunch of packages after a fresh install of NetBSD, since

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/15/19 9:47 PM, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: On 15.02.2019 17:58, Christian Groessler wrote: Please not. Red (esp. dark read) will be difficult to read for me. I'm color blind. export TERM=vt100 (or similar) Colors nowadays are industry standard and increase readability "inc

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/15/19 8:15 PM, m...@netbsd.org wrote: For the record I support the change. I don't think it's very hard not to turn on colors. You can turn them off even in linux. "You can turn them off even in linux." How do you do it? regards, chris

Re: colorls in base

2019-02-15 Thread Christian Groessler
On 2/15/19 3:20 PM, Christos Zoulas wrote: The kernel is already using green, and recently we added "autoconfiguration error" to highlight errors. Shouldn't we (in addition) make those lines red? Please not. Red (esp. dark read) will be difficult to read for me. I'm color blind. I'm also

Re: deleting telnet/telnetd

2018-12-19 Thread Christian Groessler
On 12/19/18 10:36 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: I wish you'd get rid of it because that would mean I can resign and delete NetBSD and get rid of a lot of old hardware. I'm having the same feeling... :-( regards, chris

Re: Moving telnet/telnetd from base to pkgsrc

2018-12-14 Thread Christian Groessler
On 12/14/18 2:21 PM, Taylor R Campbell wrote: We should at least have warnings on it until someone takes up maintenance not to use it on the open internet. This comes around to me similar to having a notice in the cup of coffee just bought "Caution: content may be hot", or instructions