Re: [Techno-Chat]: Article: Google Docs users locked out of their files in glitch that raises deeper concerns

2017-11-03 Thread Joshua Gregory 
and for that matter anything online... sure perhaps local clouds but
beyond that... and companies share everything about us anyway. We
might not like it but it's the age we live in.

On 11/3/17, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> There’s no such thing as privacy on Google.
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> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put
> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
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>> On 4 Nov 2017, at 1:12 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
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>> Having read this article, I think you are totally missing the point. This
>> has absolutely nothing to do with advertising. It has to do with a breech
>> of privacy. If Google’s personnel are monitoring your documents, then it
>> could result in serious breeches of both privacy and confidentiality.
>>
>> I personally never, ever, use Google Docs, or any other free cloud access.
>> You’re correct is saying it’s free for a reason. But for Google to dictate
>> what people can and cannot do with their own personal documents or
>> professional projects is, quite Franky, outrageous. It’s precisely why
>> I’ve never trusted cloud providers who offer “free” access.
>>
>> But, of course, we all know about Google’s browser Chrome, which routinely
>> writes home to Google with your browsing history. That’s an established
>> fact. In that context, I would be very reluctant to use Chrome for things
>> like online purchasing where you need to provide payment details. If, (and
>> I make no claims against Google here), if indeed they do collect all of
>> your browsing history and also input to websites, that really could
>> constitutes a security hole for the user.
>>
>> All of which just goes to prove that no operating system on the planet can
>> guarantee your total security.
>>
>> Whilst there are obvious advantages to them as well, modern cookies can be
>> so sophisticated that we often have no idea what’s being sent via the
>> cookies and to whom. I know that many analysts have issues with this.
>> There have been a lot of publications on this very point to and by
>> technology journalists.
>>
>> 
>>
>> My compliments and kindest regards
>> Gordon Smith:
>> >
>> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..
>>
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>> +61 38 82059300
>> • US/Canada:
>> +1 646 9151493
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>> On 1 Nov 2017, at 20:22, Dane Trethowan > > wrote:
>>
>> I really don’t know what all the fuss is about.
>> Google Docs is a free service so you use it at your own risk.
>> Yep, Google collects data and has always done to provide you with their
>> free service thanks to the support of advertisers who won’t advertise with
>> Google unless they know something about the audience.
>>
>>
>>> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-docs-users-locked-out-of-their-files-in-glitch-that-raises-deeper-concerns-20171101-gzcmsw.html?deviceType=text
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>> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you
>> put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Article: Google Docs users locked out of their files in glitch that raises deeper concerns

2017-11-03 Thread Dane Trethowan 
There’s no such thing as privacy on Google.


**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”




> On 4 Nov 2017, at 1:12 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> Having read this article, I think you are totally missing the point. This has 
> absolutely nothing to do with advertising. It has to do with a breech of 
> privacy. If Google’s personnel are monitoring your documents, then it could 
> result in serious breeches of both privacy and confidentiality.
> 
> I personally never, ever, use Google Docs, or any other free cloud access. 
> You’re correct is saying it’s free for a reason. But for Google to dictate 
> what people can and cannot do with their own personal documents or 
> professional projects is, quite Franky, outrageous. It’s precisely why I’ve 
> never trusted cloud providers who offer “free” access.
> 
> But, of course, we all know about Google’s browser Chrome, which routinely 
> writes home to Google with your browsing history. That’s an established fact. 
> In that context, I would be very reluctant to use Chrome for things like 
> online purchasing where you need to provide payment details. If, (and I make 
> no claims against Google here), if indeed they do collect all of your 
> browsing history and also input to websites, that really could constitutes a 
> security hole for the user.
> 
> All of which just goes to prove that no operating system on the planet can 
> guarantee your total security.
> 
> Whilst there are obvious advantages to them as well, modern cookies can be so 
> sophisticated that we often have no idea what’s being sent via the cookies 
> and to whom. I know that many analysts have issues with this. There have been 
> a lot of publications on this very point to and by technology journalists.
> 
> 
> 
> My compliments and kindest regards
> Gordon Smith:
> >
> Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..
> 
> This Message Was Created Using 100% Recycled Electrons. If you can avoid 
> printing it, please do so. Think of the environment, save a tree!
> 
>   Contact:
> 
> • UK Free Phone:
> 0800 8620538
> • UK Geographic / Global:
> +44(0) 1642 688095
> • UK Mobile/SMS:
> +44 (0)7804 983849
> • Vic. Australia:
> +61 38 82059300
> • US/Canada:
> +1 646 9151493
> 
> 
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> On 1 Nov 2017, at 20:22, Dane Trethowan  > wrote:
> 
> I really don’t know what all the fuss is about.
> Google Docs is a free service so you use it at your own risk.
> Yep, Google collects data and has always done to provide you with their free 
> service thanks to the support of advertisers who won’t advertise with Google 
> unless they know something about the audience.
> 
> 
>> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-docs-users-locked-out-of-their-files-in-glitch-that-raises-deeper-concerns-20171101-gzcmsw.html?deviceType=text
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> **
> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put 
> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Article: Google Docs users locked out of their files in glitch that raises deeper concerns

2017-11-03 Thread Gordon Smith 
Having read this article, I think you are totally missing the point. This has 
absolutely nothing to do with advertising. It has to do with a breech of 
privacy. If Google’s personnel are monitoring your documents, then it could 
result in serious breeches of both privacy and confidentiality.

I personally never, ever, use Google Docs, or any other free cloud access. 
You’re correct is saying it’s free for a reason. But for Google to dictate what 
people can and cannot do with their own personal documents or professional 
projects is, quite Franky, outrageous. It’s precisely why I’ve never trusted 
cloud providers who offer “free” access.

But, of course, we all know about Google’s browser Chrome, which routinely 
writes home to Google with your browsing history. That’s an established fact. 
In that context, I would be very reluctant to use Chrome for things like online 
purchasing where you need to provide payment details. If, (and I make no claims 
against Google here), if indeed they do collect all of your browsing history 
and also input to websites, that really could constitutes a security hole for 
the user.

All of which just goes to prove that no operating system on the planet can 
guarantee your total security.

Whilst there are obvious advantages to them as well, modern cookies can be so 
sophisticated that we often have no idea what’s being sent via the cookies and 
to whom. I know that many analysts have issues with this. There have been a lot 
of publications on this very point to and by technology journalists.



My compliments and kindest regards
Gordon Smith:

Accessibility & Information Technology Support Specialist..

This Message Was Created Using 100% Recycled Electrons. If you can avoid 
printing it, please do so. Think of the environment, save a tree!

  Contact:

• UK Free Phone:
0800 8620538
• UK Geographic / Global:
+44(0) 1642 688095
• UK Mobile/SMS:
+44 (0)7804 983849
• Vic. Australia:
+61 38 82059300
• US/Canada:
+1 646 9151493










On 1 Nov 2017, at 20:22, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I really don’t know what all the fuss is about.
Google Docs is a free service so you use it at your own risk.
Yep, Google collects data and has always done to provide you with their free 
service thanks to the support of advertisers who won’t advertise with Google 
unless they know something about the audience.


> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-docs-users-locked-out-of-their-files-in-glitch-that-raises-deeper-concerns-20171101-gzcmsw.html?deviceType=text
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“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”







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[Techno-Chat]: Article: Google Docs users locked out of their files in glitch that raises deeper concerns

2017-11-02 Thread Dane Trethowan 
I really don’t know what all the fuss is about.
Google Docs is a free service so you use it at your own risk.
Yep, Google collects data and has always done to provide you with their free 
service thanks to the support of advertisers who won’t advertise with Google 
unless they know something about the audience.


> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-docs-users-locked-out-of-their-files-in-glitch-that-raises-deeper-concerns-20171101-gzcmsw.html?deviceType=text
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> 



**
“For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in 
the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”