Re: [Fedora QA] #120: Proposed Test Day - Preupgrade - 2010-09-02

2010-08-26 Thread Fedora QA
#120: Proposed Test Day - Preupgrade - 2010-09-02 ---+ Reporter: rhe | Owner: rhe Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Component: Test Day |

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/26/2010 07:00 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: I remember this happening with upstart--briefly, and I mentioned that a comment should go in /etc/inittab, and I think Bill Nottingham fixed it in a few hours (without me even filing a bug.) As long as there's a comment in /etc/inittab on how to

Re: FC14: Odd yum results

2010-08-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/25/2010 12:53 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: AIUI it's just like update pushes - it depends on the compose/push process, which traditionally we do once a day, because it's a somewhat complex and time-consuming operation. Wasn't it supposed to move from manual to automatic? Rahul -- test

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/26/2010 07:17 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 08:02:45PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 21:18 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/oss-happens.html Another example of the Vogon effect :-). No, not

rawhide report: 20100826 changes

2010-08-26 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Aug 26 08:15:27 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnarl-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnat-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.x86_64

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/26/2010 12:49 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: My continuing adventures in fedora 14 alpha have finally gotten it installed, and I can even boot, but it insists on coming up in runlevel 3 (apparently). It won't start KDM and I get no graphical login. What happens if you start kdm in run level

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
FYI, Fedora 14 Alpha testers: Please read the following, since this update issue will hit you after you install Fedora 14 Alpha and then update. We probably need to spread this news out wider and add to the Common F14 bugs page. On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:07:42AM +0200, Vaclav Misek wrote: On

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread cornel panceac
thank you, i was wondering if i have to reinstall :) -- Among the maxims on Lord Naoshige's wall, there was this one: Matters of great concern should be treated lightly. Master Ittei commented, Matters of small concern should be treated seriously. (Ghost Dog : The Way of The Samurai) -- test

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread cornel panceac
# ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/systemd/default.target here's what i get: # ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/systemd/default.target ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/systemd/systemd/default.target': No such file or directory --

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread cornel panceac
2010/8/26 cornel panceac cpanc...@gmail.com # ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/systemd/default.target here's what i get: # ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/systemd/default.target ln: creating symbolic link

Re: F14 Alpha - First impressions

2010-08-26 Thread Fulko Hew
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/25/2010 11:21 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: a) I'm disappointed that I couldn't try it in VirtualBox v3.0.8, but then again F13 wouldn't install there either. (It might work under newer VirtualBox's, but thats

Re: Help review the preupgrade-cli test please

2010-08-26 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:24 +0800, He Rui wrote: Greetings, I just created a case for testing preupgrade-cli. Anyone who is interested in it or used to upgrade by using this command please help review this test: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Preupgrade_cli Any

F14 Alpha blank screen during install

2010-08-26 Thread Zoltan Kota
Hi, I still was not able to install F14 Alpha with netinst.iso. Blank screen after anaconda starts, as described in the F14 Common Bugs wiki page. I have Ati Radeon 9200. As I remember it didn't work with basic video drive either. I will try it again. Is that problem still exist? A new bug was

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Miller
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 21:13:20 -0700,  Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Vogon, not Volgan. :) And yes, that issue isn't documented, mainly That's not fair. The plans for the destruction of Earth were on

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:43:14AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:36 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: I disagree, there really is only so much we as an internet based community can do to help the users and publicly providing the documentation in multiple outlets is about as

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:10:28AM +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: On 08/26/2010 07:17 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: OTOH adding '5' there may just work (maybe). I made the experience that I can add in F14 the runlevel in the GRUB boot line, so I can boot into rl 5 or 3 without problem. Without

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:47:17 -0500 Adam Miller wrote: Those of us on this mailing list spend time testing Fedora and we should provide *constructive* feedback I thought the suggestion earlier in this thread to provide a single place where heads up documentation about things users are going to

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:12 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:47:17AM -0500, Adam Miller wrote: OK, let's try this first item in its entirety. Oh, I'm sorry ... did you miss the Alpha tag on the ISO you downloaded? Somebody who is missing something is you;

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread cornel panceac
2010/8/26 seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org I think the point is that the one thing we can do to help users is to throw it all away and start over LESS often. -sv good point. -- Among the maxims on Lord Naoshige's wall, there was this one: Matters of great concern should be

Re: If you cannot boot after installing systemd v8...

2010-08-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:33:23PM +0300, cornel panceac wrote: 2010/8/26 cornel panceac cpanc...@gmail.com # ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target /etc/systemd/systemd/default.target here's what i get: # ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/graphical.target

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:17:23AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:12 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:47:17AM -0500, Adam Miller wrote: OK, let's try this first item in its entirety. Oh, I'm sorry ... did you miss the Alpha tag on

F14 Gnome Panel

2010-08-26 Thread Erinn Looney-Triggs
Anyone else lost the ability to move gnome panel via alt + click in fedora 14? My memory is not great but I believe this worked in 13 just wanted to confirm before I file a bug. -Erinn -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: F14 Alpha blank screen during install

2010-08-26 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/26/2010 09:41 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:11:00 -0400 Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Specify nomodeset in the kernel cmd line. Known problem and in bz. During anaconda, I couldn't get any video to work on my system at all with ati or vesa. I installed with VNC and after

F-14 Branched report: 20100826 changes

2010-08-26 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Aug 26 13:15:26 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnarl-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnat-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.x86_64

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:01:02AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:41 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: Or maybe you were thinking of this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Alpha_release_announcement NetworkManager and PulseAudio as examples in the context are

Re: FC14: Odd yum results

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michael Schwendt (mschwe...@gmail.com) said: Untagging them from updates-testing and removing them from the repo way before they appear in the updates repo instead, is bad. It also causes broken dependencies temporarily. Those make testing less fun and lead to confusion when spending karma in

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:52 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:43:14AM -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:36 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: I disagree, there really is only so much we as an internet based community can do to help the users and publicly

Re: FC14: Odd yum results

2010-08-26 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 12:21 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Michael Schwendt (mschwe...@gmail.com) said: Untagging them from updates-testing and removing them from the repo way before they appear in the updates repo instead, is bad. It also causes broken dependencies temporarily. Those make

Re: FC14: Odd yum results

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matt McCutchen (m...@mattmccutchen.net) said: At the moment, we 'solve' this by doing update pushes in a certain order such that this should not happen. (Basically, any number of testing pushes, then a stable push, then the branched tree.) In order to avoid packages temporarily

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:46 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: The release notes are the one canonical thing you should always read. I have edited the release notes to state that systemd is a mostly compatible replacement instead of a drop-in replacement, and I have copied the FAQ and Tips and Tricks

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:18 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:14:59 -0400 Chris Lumens wrote: The VNC - runlevel 3 implication is working as designed. Though, I'd really like anaconda to have a screen that let's me choose the runlevel during install, but it isn't a big

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 13:00 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:46 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: The release notes are the one canonical thing you should always read. I have edited the release notes to state that systemd is a mostly compatible replacement instead of a

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:06:55 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: The theory here is that if graphics didn't work at install time they're probably not going to work afterwards either. So if you needed to resort to VNC or text mode... Yea, but my most frequent use case is to do a graphical install on a

Re: Fedora 14 - X is not working on Laptop

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 18:28 +0530, A S Alam wrote: Hi, I tried to run Fedora 14 Alpha Live on my laptop, but X failed to work. Laptop has Hybrid graphics with Nvidia and Intel HD. Nvidia - M330 - X failed to start (same with 'nomodeset') Intel HD - Hanged I have tried with Fedora 13,

Re: F14 Alpha blank screen during install

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:11 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/26/2010 09:00 AM, Zoltan Kota wrote: Hi, I still was not able to install F14 Alpha with netinst.iso. Blank screen after anaconda starts, as described in the F14 Common Bugs wiki page. I have Ati Radeon 9200. As I remember

Re: F14 Alpha - First impressions

2010-08-26 Thread David
On 8/26/2010 8:46 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com mailto:methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/25/2010 11:21 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: a) I'm disappointed that I couldn't try it in VirtualBox v3.0.8, but then again F13

Display issues running FC14a3 under KVM

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
I booted the Live-CD under KVM and after a bit of minor testing did an install from that, using the install off the default user home page. The system boots and runs, but I get odd display warnings. At startup I get a warn of using a 1x1 window (and being smart enough to not do it), then when

Re: F14 Alpha - First impressions

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Fulko Hew wrote: a) I'm disappointed that I couldn't try it in VirtualBox v3.0.8, but then again F13 wouldn't install there either. (It might work under newer VirtualBox's, but thats all I have right now. (The installation 'infinite loops during system loader phase with a stack

Re: F14 Alpha - First impressions

2010-08-26 Thread Fulko Hew
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Fulko Hew wrote: a) I'm disappointed that I couldn't try it in VirtualBox v3.0.8, but then again F13 wouldn't install there either. (It might work under newer VirtualBox's, but thats all I have right now.

Re: F14 Alpha - First impressions

2010-08-26 Thread Chris Lumens
c) The GUI install wouldn't work, but I fell back to text install. d) I was disappointed that it would not let me select the packages to install (I want KDE not Gnome) Need the full install for that, LiveCD is GNOME. I was using the 'full install'. The key is (c), you did

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:02:54 -0400 Matt McCutchen wrote: Fedora 14 is using systemd as the init system, and it doesn't honor /etc/inittab: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626855 http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/oss-happens.html

F13 F14 Alpha preupgrade fails to find install.img

2010-08-26 Thread Andy Lawrence
Please see bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627377 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627377Any suggestions on further info/help I can provide? Thanks Andy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: F14 Alpha blank screen during install

2010-08-26 Thread Zoltan Kota
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:11 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/26/2010 09:00 AM, Zoltan Kota wrote: Hi, I still was not able to install F14 Alpha with netinst.iso. Blank screen after anaconda starts, as

Re: [Fedora QA] #105: F14 Graphics Test Week

2010-08-26 Thread Fedora QA
#105: F14 Graphics Test Week ---+ Reporter: adamwill | Owner: adamwill Type: defect| Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Component: Test Day | Version:

Re: F14 Alpha blank screen during install

2010-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 00:42 +0200, Zoltan Kota wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:11 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/26/2010 09:00 AM, Zoltan Kota wrote: Hi, I still was not able to install F14 Alpha with

Re: F14 Alpha blank screen during install

2010-08-26 Thread Zoltan Kota
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 00:42 +0200, Zoltan Kota wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:11 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 08/26/2010 09:00 AM,

Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2010-08-26 Thread updates
The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 14 updates-testing 389-admin-1.1.11-1.fc14 389-ds-base-1.2.6-1.fc14 audit-viewer-0.7-1.fc14 clive-2.2.13-2.fc14 gtk-equinox-engine-1.20-4.fc14 hugin-2010.0.0-6.fc14 ldns-1.6.6-2.fc14 libuser-0.56.17-1.fc14