On Dec 3, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Yes, it's a bit messy, isn't it: the text is talking about the big +,
but the big + is for creating *partitions*, not mount points. It's
certainly a bit confusing to have text that talks about 'creating mount
points',
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 01:10 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 3, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Yes, it's a bit messy, isn't it: the text is talking about the big +,
but the big + is for creating *partitions*, not mount points. It's
certainly a bit confusing
I recently upgraded the CPU/motherboard that runs omen.com.
The gigabit local network that used to be p37p1 is now em1.
After changing settings with the network applets the system would
put the settings for the local network into the internet connection.
When this happens the server is somewhat
Since the latest yum update I have to run audio programs as root
in order to access an audio device. Previously being a member of
audio group was sufficient.
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Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
Omen
Dne Po 3. prosince 2012 23:47:14, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
This gets into a very general discussion, but there is a fairly solid
case to be made that excessively aggressive behaviour on mailing lists
doesn't just discourage those it's aimed at,
I wish it had worked ... discouraging
On 2012-12-03 23:20 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:
If you read the timestamps on the blog posts and design stuff we
keep trying to persuade you to read, you will note that newUI has been
under development for at least two years.
The results I found have been two years in the making?
Hi,
sorry to bother your circles, but one paragraph catched my eye ... it is
strongly offtopic here, but I couldn't resist to try to educate people - who
knows, maybe someday ... I'll live long enough until browser developers will
finally understand CSS ...
Dne Po 3. prosince 2012 14:35:15,
Hello,
I'm going to receive a raspberry in a few days and I would like to
test upcoming Fedora 18 on it as there is already a F17 remix.
Any repositories already in place or would it be a remix ready only
post-final f18?
Would be feasible to use it as a client to connect to oVirt
infrastructure
I think that there is no 18 available at the moment, why not install a 17
and try to help to debug it?? (i.e. it is not perfect, I have some problems)
2012/12/4 Gianluca Cecchi gianluca.cec...@gmail.com
Hello,
I'm going to receive a raspberry in a few days and I would like to
test upcoming
http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Raspberry_Pi_Fedora_Remix_Installationthen
download the image (that is a zip file to be unzipped directly from
this link
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/raspberrypi/f17-releases/v5/latest/
Then you buy a SD card, ...dd to SD card , plug the card in the
On 12/04/2012 10:39 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
Since the latest yum update I have to run audio programs as root
in order to access an audio device. Previously being a member of
audio group was sufficient.
Running audio programs as root should not be necessary and is almost
never
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
Hello,
I'm going to receive a raspberry in a few days and I would like to
test upcoming Fedora 18 on it as there is already a F17 remix.
Any repositories already in place or would it be a remix ready only
post-final f18?
Would be feasible to use it as
We agreed in principle at the meeting to amend the criterion to cover
any critical packaging error. So I propose this wording:
There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or release-blocking
live desktop media which cause the package to fail to install. Such
critical errors include,
On 12/04/2012 01:03 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
We agreed in principle at the meeting to amend the criterion to cover
any critical packaging error. So I propose this wording:
There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or release-blocking
live desktop media which cause the package to fail to
Affected Voters:
- Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments?
If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the discussion in the
meeting is often very helpful to understand the nature of the bug, and it can
shift my opinion substantially.
Also I don't like spamming bugzilla
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sat, 2012-12-01 at 17:42 -0700, Peter Gueckel wrote:
No need to comment. Just want to pass on experience to those up the
ladder.
1. Stupid 20-minute pause (waiting for a timeout?) before the
installation got
On 12/04/2012 01:22 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
Affected Voters:
- Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments?
If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the discussion in the
meeting is often very helpful to understand the nature of the bug, and it can
shift my opinion
I did not choose the media select (or at least I don't think I did)
and also saw 20+ minute delays with no progress information while
the DVD drive rapidly read data. Manually removing rd.live.check
solved the issue.
It's very unfortunate the progress bar is not shown and information how to
If we are not in a rush, I'd keep everything in the meeting. If we
are in a rush (like now), I'd move some obvious (or
controversial, those might be good candidates too) items outside
of the meeting, but not into the bugzilla. An email thread on the
test list is much better. It can
Compose started at Tue Dec 4 09:15:31 UTC 2012
New package: brewtarget-1.2.5-4.fc18
An open source beer recipe creation tool
Removed package: mod_auth_shadow-2.3-2.fc18
Removed package: uxlaunch-0.56-8.fc18
Updated Packages:
RBTools-0.4.2-1.fc18
* Fri
I came up with a way to install fedora 18 on my main system
without any worries that the cryptic partitioning interface
might wind up wiping out my system. I liked it so much I
may install fedora this way from now on. Here's my technique:
1. Install f18 in a brand new virtual machine.
2. Shutdown
On 12/04/2012 09:27 AM, Antonio M wrote:
http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/Raspberry_Pi_Fedora_Remix_Installationthen
download the image (that is a zip file to be unzipped directly from
this link
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/raspberrypi/f17-releases/v5/latest/
Then you buy a SD card,
On 12/04/2012 08:38 AM, Fedora Branched Report wrote:
Compose started at Tue Dec 4 09:15:31 UTC 2012
VICTORY! NO BROKEN DEPS in Fedora 18!
Now, I ask you all, please, please. Help me keep it that way!
~tom
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On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote:
On 12/04/2012 08:38 AM, Fedora Branched Report wrote:
Compose started at Tue Dec 4 09:15:31 UTC 2012
VICTORY! NO BROKEN DEPS in Fedora 18!
pops cork
Now, I ask you all, please, please. Help me keep it that way!
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:07:15 -0500,
Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote:
On 12/04/2012 08:38 AM, Fedora Branched Report wrote:
Compose started at Tue Dec 4 09:15:31 UTC 2012
VICTORY! NO BROKEN DEPS in Fedora 18!
Thanks for your work with this.
You inspired me to try to fix up
On 12/04/2012 10:21 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
P.S. There is still some texlive brokenness in F18. If you have the
latest texlive stuff installed and try to install db-latex it pulls in
some old texlive stuff (that I think should be removed) that has file
conflicts with the corresponding new
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:44:11 -0500,
Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote:
On 12/04/2012 10:21 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
P.S. There is still some texlive brokenness in F18. If you have the
latest texlive stuff installed and try to install db-latex it pulls in
some old texlive stuff
Final release criteria:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
I went through all criteria and connect them to test cases. I found
following problems:
We don't have TCs for:
* The release live images must properly support mounting and using a
persistent storage overlay
On 12/04/2012 12:56 PM, Antonio M wrote:
XFCE I do not understand the polkit thing, but I assume that a standard
user should not have to open a rooted terminal to start Yumex or to issue a
poweroff to stop the machine. Furthermore, it is not clear where and to
whom to report any bug.
You
On 04.12.2012 00:13, Eric Blake wrote:
[I debated about starting a new thread, since no one else in this thread
seems to have mentioned installing into a pre-existing LUKS volume group,
but this bug summary proved too tempting to not add another bug to the
list, not to mention that the term
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 11:06 +0100, Karel Volný wrote:
Dne Po 3. prosince 2012 23:47:14, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
This gets into a very general discussion, but there is a fairly solid
case to be made that excessively aggressive behaviour on mailing lists
doesn't just discourage those it's
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 05:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012-12-03 23:20 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:
If you read the timestamps on the blog posts and design stuff we
keep trying to persuade you to read, you will note that newUI has been
under development for at least two years.
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 13:17 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 12/04/2012 01:03 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
We agreed in principle at the meeting to amend the criterion to cover
any critical packaging error. So I propose this wording:
There must be no errors in any package on the DVD or
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 08:26 -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
I did not choose the media select (or at least I don't think I did)
and also saw 20+ minute delays with no progress information while the
DVD drive rapidly read data. Manually removing rd.live.check solved
the issue.
Looking at
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 17:28 +0100, Petr Schindler wrote:
Final release criteria:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria
I went through all criteria and connect them to test cases. I found
following problems:
We don't have TCs for:
* The release live images must
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 13:08 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 09:56:29AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 08:26 -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
Media verification is the default. If it's taking 20+ minutes on a
physical DVD and we have no
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 08:22 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
Affected Voters:
- Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments?
If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the
discussion in the meeting is often very helpful to understand the
nature of the bug, and it can shift my
Message: 8
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:27:42 +0100
From: Antonio Mantonio.montagn...@gmail.com
To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
test@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: fedora 18 spin for raspberry
Message-ID:
On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Tim Flink tfl...@redhat.com wrote:
Affected Voters:
- Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments?
Rarely. I agree with Kamil's comment that it makes bug reports less readable.
It may also encourage conversations, turning the bug report into a giant email
On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:34:12 -0800
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
snip
Anyhow, helpful thoughts would be appreciated. Hopefully we can
improve the process so that it's less painful for everyone and
maybe even more useful (at the very least, less difficult to
understand).
I
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:14:59AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 13:08 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
Media verification is the default. If it's taking 20+ minutes on a
physical DVD and we have no progress indicator, that's definitely
something of a problem.
On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Tim Flink tfl...@redhat.com wrote:
I think the best evidence of this is the number of bugs which get
proposed as blockers or NTH without any justification of why or citing
of any release criterion that might be violated. I take that as the
process isn't being
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 13:53 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:14:59AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 13:08 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
Media verification is the default. If it's taking 20+ minutes on a
physical DVD and we have no progress
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012 08:22:12 -0500 (EST)
Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote:
Affected Voters:
- Do you vote on blocker status in bug comments?
If necessary, but I don't like it much. In my experience the
discussion in the meeting is often very helpful to understand the
nature of the
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 11:42 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
Anyhow, helpful thoughts would be appreciated. Hopefully we can improve
the process so that it's less painful for everyone and maybe even more
useful (at the very least, less difficult to understand).
I think the release criteria
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:10 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Tim Flink tfl...@redhat.com wrote:
I think the best evidence of this is the number of bugs which get
proposed as blockers or NTH without any justification of why or citing
of any release criterion that
Hello all,
After installing both httpd and php and setting a UserDir to enable
public_html, I encountered an issue
with php which failed to run despite its presence. Here is the conf
userdir.conf
#
# Control access to UserDir directories. The following is an example
# for a site where these
On 12/04/2012 07:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I've thought about this too, it's clearly the case there's a bit of
unnecessary bureaucracy overhead on certain bugs. The problem is that
any time I sit down and try and find a way to fix it that won't lead to
any problems, it gets tricky. On an 'ad
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 11:38 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
Hello all,
After installing both httpd and php and setting a UserDir to enable
public_html, I encountered an issue
with php which failed to run despite its presence. Here is the conf
What error message do you get? Did you check if
I have been trying to install F18 beta on real hardware and seem to have
it a problem concerning disk allocation. I have successfully installed
the beta into a virtual systems.
My problem is that I have a test system with almost all of the disk
space pre-allocated into various partitions.
On Tue 04 Dec 2012 11:45:39 AM PST, Adam Williamson wrote:
What error message do you get? Did you check if it's SELinux? (Easy way
to check - 'setenforce Permissive', try again, see if it works. If it
does, the correct conclusion is not 'oh well, I'll just run in
permissive mode forever' but
On 12/04/2012 04:07 AM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 12/04/2012 10:39 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
Since the latest yum update I have to run audio programs as root
in order to access an audio device. Previously being a member of
audio group was sufficient.
Running audio programs as
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes:
I don't recollect running into it in recent Beta test installs--is it
something that is as easily skipped as it's always been?
Not right now, no, that's kind of the problem - it runs right from the
boot menu with zero UI, it just runs and you
On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote:
My problem is that I have a test system with almost all of the disk space
pre-allocated into various partitions. There are /boot partitions on the sda
disk but the remainder are in lvm. I cannot seem to be able to get to
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 12:49 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
On Tue 04 Dec 2012 11:45:39 AM PST, Adam Williamson wrote:
What error message do you get? Did you check if it's SELinux? (Easy way
to check - 'setenforce Permissive', try again, see if it works. If it
does, the correct conclusion
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:13 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote:
My problem is that I have a test system with almost all of the disk
space pre-allocated into various partitions. There are /boot
partitions on the sda disk but the
On Dec 4, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
You'll need to make sure you've manually created an LV because neither
anaconda autopart or Manual Partitioning can create an LV from available VG
free space.
By this I mean, create the LV outside of anaconda.
Hi,
I have a couple issues with the new offline updates feature (Install Updates
Restart in the GNOME Shell menu).
The first issue: users can no longer review the updates before they install
them. The list of updates is not shown at any step of the update process
anymore for offline updates.
We still have quite a few proposed blockers for F18 final and could use
some more votes in bug. Instead of sending out email after email of
bugs that could use voting or testing, I wrote some code to help me
keep track of the bug states and display a reasonably up-to-date list
of the bugs.
On 2012-12-04 09:46 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 05:35 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
The results I found have been two years in the making? Yikes!!!
Yes. I do keep saying this stuff is hard and encouraging you to read the
design documentation and relevant blogs
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 19:37 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
saying you'll
only test something if it works really well appears to be putting the
cart before the horse.
There's only really one feature I want from Anaconda, one which doesn't seem
to exist. Neither seems to exist a workaround or
On 2012-12-04 16:58 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:
I don't know why you'd expect a 'partition assignment only' mode to
exist, given that there wasn't one in F17 and there was no indication of
one in any of the design documents for newui.
want != expect
--
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On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:19 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote:
Hi,
I have a couple issues with the new offline updates feature (Install Updates
Restart in the GNOME Shell menu).
The first issue: users can no longer review the updates before they install
them. The list of updates is not shown
It wasn't long ago that I had to change several program to
use libudev instead of libhal.
Now in fedora 18 it says there is no libudev?
What the heck is the flavor of the month now for querying
hardware and how much different is it than libudev?
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On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 05:04:34PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:19 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote:
Hi,
I have a couple issues with the new offline updates feature (Install
Updates Restart in the GNOME Shell menu).
The first issue: users can no longer review
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 17:58 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote:
Although, after reading those GNOME bugs, is not receiving a notification a
bug
on its own? I haven't seen an updates available notification since I
installed the F18 beta last week.
I'm not sure the current status. When I filed my
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 20:55 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
It wasn't long ago that I had to change several program to
use libudev instead of libhal.
Now in fedora 18 it says there is no libudev?
What the heck is the flavor of the month now for querying
hardware and how much different is it
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 01:53:21PM -0500, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 10:14:59AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
(Hrrm, the Archer episode, where he and Lana are going to
become human prey, comes to mind. When the villain says to go, Archer
pushes Lana to the ground
# F18 Final Blocker Review meeting #2
# Date: 2012-12-05
# Time: 17:00 UTC (12:00 EST, 09:00 PST)
# Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net
We're still working to get the proposed blocker list down to something
manageable, so it would be time for another blocker review meeting!
Note the
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 18:11 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 17:58 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote:
Although, after reading those GNOME bugs, is not receiving a notification a
bug
on its own? I haven't seen an updates available notification since I
installed the F18 beta
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:12:22PM -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 18:11 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
I'm not sure the current status. When I filed my bug, which was a bit
pre-Beta, I was getting notifications, obviously (the bug being that
clicking on them triggered an
On 12/04/2012 08:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Tue, 04 Dec 2012 07:38:10 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
Hi all,
I'm using kernel-3.6.9-1.fc18.x86_64 and a fully updated f18.
Problem: If I switch bewteen the gnome-shell desktop and some tty
(ctrl+alt+Fn) rather quickly, then it happens
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 19:20 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
[Mon Dec 03 17:16:52.319181 2012] [autoindex:error] [pid 5233] [client
127.0.0.1:38664] AH01276: Cannot serve directory /var/www/html/: No
matching DirectoryIndex (index.html,index.php) found, and
server-generated directory index
On Tue 04 Dec 2012 09:17:03 PM PST, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 19:20 -0800, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
[Mon Dec 03 17:16:52.319181 2012] [autoindex:error] [pid 5233] [client
127.0.0.1:38664] AH01276: Cannot serve directory /var/www/html/: No
matching DirectoryIndex
On 12/04/2012 05:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 15:13 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Dec 4, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote:
My problem is that I have a test system with almost all of the disk
space pre-allocated into various partitions. There are
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing:
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14452/bacula-5.0.3-33.fc16
2
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-19538/weechat-0.3.9.2-2.fc16
47
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 01:52 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
I am not sure how things are suppose to work but I do not see ANY LVs
There are regular old partitions which I can use for /boot but all of
the rest of my disk space is in PVs. IMO, the whole way storage is
being handled in
On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:52 PM, Gene Czarcinski g...@czarc.net wrote:
I am not sure how things are suppose to work but I do not see ANY LVs
In Manual Partitioning, on the left side, you do not have an +Unknown listing
located under -New Fedora 18 Installation? Or there are no LV's listed?
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