Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 02:02:34PM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Then we are back to what Lukas brought up. What is the Server going to > have on it? I think the items he had were the ones most likely needed > out of the box: [...] > Otherwise we are back to 'nothing' as making more sense be

Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 7:34 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Lukas Ruzicka wrote: > > > servers also need security and bug fixes. > > If so and local repository is always needed ... why keep a server spin > > then? Why not install from Everything netinst? > >

Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Lukas Ruzicka wrote: > > servers also need security and bug fixes. > If so and local repository is always needed ... why keep a server spin > then? Why not install from Everything netinst? Lots of people use Fedora in a server context. If we don't have a s

Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Lukas Ruzicka
In this case, I would expect that intranet to have a local mirror. Intranet > servers also need security and bug fixes. > > If so and local repository is always needed ... why keep a server spin then? Why not install from Everything netinst? > -- > Matthew Miller > > Fedora Project Leader > __

Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
Lukas' question made me another one... Server spin has a couple of blockers on software (freeipa and posgresql at least). Are we going to take them out from the installer? Matthew Miller igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2019 ots. 18, al. 17:00): > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43:46AM +0100, Lukas Ruzicka

Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:43:46AM +0100, Lukas Ruzicka wrote: > Yes, I agree with the proposal. I also agree that most servers will be > connected to the Internet, however, I can think of some use cases where > Internet connection is not wanted and an intranet is sufficient, such as: In this case

Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Lukas Ruzicka
Yes, I agree with the proposal. I also agree that most servers will be connected to the Internet, however, I can think of some use cases where Internet connection is not wanted and an intranet is sufficient, such as: - a file server - a print server - a router - a web server (for intranet) So, my

Re: Proposal: Drop most optional packages from Server DVD

2019-02-18 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:50 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > For a long time, the Fedora Server Edition has provided a fairly > lightweight default installation, but a fairly heavyweight DVD. This > is because we opted to include a lot of infrastructure-related content > on the disk, such as BIND,