Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-09-22 Thread Adam Williamson
good idea, I think, to get an update with the new code rolled at least, then people can try it out and we can start getting an idea whether it has problems... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

Re: Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 16:45 -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Adam Williamson writes: > > > For background here, see: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849 > > > > right now, when installing Fedora alongside a Windows install with > > BitLo

Release criteria proposal: except BitLocker-enabled installs from Windows dual-boot criterion bootloader requirement

2022-09-19 Thread Adam Williamson
existing clean Windows installation. As long as the Windows installation does not have BitLocker enabled, the installer must also install a bootloader which can boot into both Windows and Fedora." -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://w

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-09-19 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-09-16 Thread Adam Williamson
! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: Fedora-MATE_Compiz-Live-x86_64-37_Beta-1.5.iso ... Does NOT boot.

2022-09-14 Thread Adam Williamson
lly will show on every boot of every ISO pretty much. But boot should then proceed. Is there any other indication of what else might be wrong? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net __

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 37 Beta Release Announcement

2022-09-13 Thread Adam Williamson
Ideally this announcement should have included them alongside Workstation and Server somehow, but the Final announcement *definitely* needs to if we're considering them as editions. That implies that we also need to work out how to present them on getfedora.org. -- Adam Williamson Fedo

Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work

2022-09-13 Thread Adam Williamson
s? That just feels too vague to me. Do you have a suggestion for improved wording? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an emai

Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work

2022-09-13 Thread Adam Williamson
ria because our influence has limits, including the > infrastructure aspects of extensions that we can't control (such as > the web site itself). So we'd like to see this covered under existing > criterion. There is no relevant existing criterion. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw |

Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work

2022-09-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-09-13 at 07:08 -0700, Scott Beamer wrote: > On 9/13/22 6:31 AM, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:35 PM Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > === GNOME extensions === > > > > > > On Fedora Workstation, it must be possible to insta

Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-09-13 Thread Adam Williamson
e rewrite of the thing that generates the critpath data this week, and it probably wouldn't be to much work, honestly. The most annoying bit would be the Bodhi frontend stuff, but that's because I'm bad at frontend dev in general. :P But yeah, this is definitely off in sky-castle land. I'll add it

Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work

2022-09-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 14:39 -0700, Scott Beamer wrote: > On 9/12/22 12:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey folks! > > > > So a bug came up at today's blocker review meeting: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868 > > > > it takes a minut

2022-09-12 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-09-12 Thread Adam Williamson
) * lruzicka (11) * nirik (4) * bcotton (3) * AhmedA (2) * pboy (1) * tflink[m] (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work

2022-09-12 Thread Adam Williamson
eb browser, after installing the required browser extension. # Do folks think this is important enough to block Final release on? Desktop folks, do you consider it "supportable"? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://w

Call for testing: laptops and USB-C docks

2022-09-04 Thread Adam Williamson
report. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-09-05 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-09-04 Thread Adam Williamson
reply to this mail and we can run the meeting on Tuesday. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-08-31 at 12:43 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:10:00PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 09:14 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > From my perspective, anything that blocks the release is on the > > >

Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
t changing the critical path definition to "all release-blocking functionality" rather than "functionality needed to boot a basically-functional system". Thanks for the data! I will see if I can diff it against the current critpath definition; that would be interesting. -- Ad

Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 09:39 +0300, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On ma, 29 elo 2022, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 00:32 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > > It sounds to me like the problem is "how do we best use the available > > > automated test resour

Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-30 Thread Adam Williamson
that could benefit from testing but don't require it. It also means > that additional openQA resources can be put to use immediately, while > still allowing for growth in critical path size, without being wasted on > unseen results. This is an interesti

Request for testing: Fedora 37 pre-Beta validation tests

2022-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/KVVU6JVOKF4WI4ZS6AFLB7IVBCCNKFCX/ for that announcement. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
could test and gate *every* update, and this wouldn't be an issue any more. What do folks think? Any preferences? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -

2022-08-29 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
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Re: After latest updates to F37 from updates testing, tab completion goes missing, wallpapoz stops working

2022-08-28 Thread Adam Williamson
mount anything but the root partition. systemd doesn't exactly *do* the mounting, it just...farms it out. Those errors look almost like it's literally trying to mount the device `/uuid=a4377658-7454-45ed-aaf2-355f80cc9e9a` , which obviously isn't going to work... Can you show your /etc/fstab or th

[Test-Announce] Fedora 37 Branched 20220826.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2022-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 37 Branched 20220826.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see:

[Test-Announce] 2022-08-22 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting

2022-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good night/day and see you tomorrow/later today! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net __

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-08-22 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: IoT testing page cleanups

2022-08-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-08-16 at 11:04 -0500, Brandon Nielsen via test wrote: > On 3/5/22 11:38 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-03-02 at 15:03 -0600, Brandon Nielsen wrote: > > [Snip] > > > > 2 - The "Wired Network" result doesn't appear in relval. Would tha

Re: webkit2gtk4.1-jsc-2.37.1-12.fc37 blocking updates in Rawhide?

2022-08-08 Thread Adam Williamson
hoping it'll be done in time for tomorrow's compose/branch. > > In any case it's blocking dnf from updating.  Is is a local issue for me > that I need to fix, or are others seeing this? No, it will affect everyone. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://

2022-08-08 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-08-08 Thread Adam Williamson
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Re: Call for testing: UEFI boot of current Rawhide images written to USB with dd

2022-08-08 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, Luna. The mediacheck problem is known: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2107858 if you avoid the media check, does the system boot ok? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ tes

[Test-Announce] 2022-08-08 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2022-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 37 check-in 3. Test Day / community event status 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

2022-07-25 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-08-07 Thread Adam Williamson
ject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fe

Re: rpm -ivh kernel installation put no vmlinuz* in /boot/

2022-08-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 04:20 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Felix Miata composed on 2022-08-02 18:35 (UTC-0400): > > > Adam Williamson composed on 2022-08-02 14:10 (UTC-0700): > > > > On Tue, 2022-08-02 at 15:20 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > Adam Willi

Re: Call for testing: UEFI boot of current Rawhide images written to USB with dd

2022-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
hide-20220802.n.0.iso" > of="/dev/sdb" status="progress" conv="fsync"). > Both booted fine to the installer, no problems here. > Hope this helps. Thanks a lot for the data Geraldo! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA

Call for testing: UEFI boot of current Rawhide images written to USB with dd

2022-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
-Rawhide-20220802.n.0/compose/Everything/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-Rawhide-20220802.n.0.iso - to USB with dd then booting it in native UEFI mode on some system, and see if it works? It'd be good to know if there's a general issue or I just have some cranky hardware. Thanks! -- Adam

Re: rpm -ivh kernel installation put no vmlinuz* in /boot/

2022-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-08-02 at 15:20 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Adam Williamson composed on 2022-08-02 11:23 (UTC-0700): > > > On Mon, 2022-08-01 at 11:02 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > Is this normal procedure now in rawhide? > > > > I copied vmlinuz directl

Re: kernels failing to boot in rawhide for a few weeks now.

2022-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
> How can a stock Fedora kernel not boot on a Fedora system? Really > puzzling. Not sure what's going on in your case, but FWIW, I'm on current Rawhide and not seeing any such problem... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter:

Re: rpm -ivh kernel installation put no vmlinuz* in /boot/

2022-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
ib/modules tree. It works. kernel is a metapackage that doesn't contain any files, the actual main parts of the kernel are in kernel-core. Is that what you meant? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-08-01 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: Plan / proposal: enable openQA update testing and potentially gating on Rawhide updates

2022-07-28 Thread Adam Williamson
ore weeks, and look into the idea that came up about improving the side tag chain build experience a bit, before considering turning on gating. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ t

2022-07-11 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-07-24 Thread Adam Williamson
ndi89gi (1) * kparal (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing li

Re: Updated criteria proposal: networking requirements

2022-07-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2022-06-03 at 16:35 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! > > Some time ago I proposed some specific networking release criteria. I > revived the thread back in February, and meeting discussion suggested > we should be more intentional and specific about wifi r

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-07-18 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-07-15 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday, I don't have anything much for the agenda again. If you're aware of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can run the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw

Re: Removing 5.19 kernel; dnf wants to remove 501 other packages too. (Samuel Sieb)

2022-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
the chance. Sigh... > > Am I missing something here? You can do what Sergio suggested - `dnf distro-sync kernel-headers`. If you now have only the official repos enabled, that should downgrade it to the 'correct' current version for your release. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA

Re: Fedora-Rawhide-20220702.n.0 compose check report

2022-07-04 Thread Adam Williamson
new kernel from this compose: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103766 Two, the new gnome-software version in this compose does not seem to be able to install updates: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1816 -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: ad

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-07-04 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-07-03 Thread Adam Williamson
the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

2022-06-27 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
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Re: Plan / proposal: enable openQA update testing and potentially gating on Rawhide updates

2022-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2022-06-09 at 12:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! ... > I think doing this could really help us keep Rawhide solid and avoid > introducing major compose-breaking bugs, at minimal cost. But it's a > significant change and I wanted to see what folks think. In particul

Re: Future of Test Cases and their Management in Fedora QA

2022-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
cally for this purpose, with restrictions to allowable page names and so on). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: Future of Test Cases and their Management in Fedora QA

2022-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
It's not that far evolved beyond "just enough to do the job for the guy who wrote it". If someone felt inclined, you could improve its interface quite a bit. If we got either of those approaches far enough along, we could consider locking out direct editing of the wiki pages somehow, if th

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-06-20 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-06-19 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow. I don't have anything much for the agenda again. If you're aware of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can run the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw

Re: Plan / proposal: enable openQA update testing and potentially gating on Rawhide updates

2022-06-17 Thread Adam Williamson
base reached a compose yesterday. This is one big reason I would like to enable gating. :D Without gating, I have to run around cleaning up cases like that manually - getting the issues fixed as fast as possible and then re- running failed tests once the fix lands. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: ada

Re: Updated criteria proposal: networking requirements

2022-06-11 Thread Adam Williamson
working with you to get your PRs merged. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedorapro

Plan / proposal: enable openQA update testing and potentially gating on Rawhide updates

2022-06-09 Thread Adam Williamson
anks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Condu

Re: Updated criteria proposal: networking requirements

2022-06-09 Thread Adam Williamson
then we could maybe consider whether it's a sufficiently important feature to be release blocking. If we haven't even (as a project) decided it's a desirable feature and proved we can implement it (that's what the Change process is for), blocking the release on it seems rather premature... --

2022-06-06 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-06-06 Thread Adam Williamson
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Updated criteria proposal: networking requirements

2022-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
be encountered commonly enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more likely it is to be a blocker. # Any more thoughts, com

PSA: openQA failures in tests using Firefox

2022-05-25 Thread Adam Williamson
or another, and if I can't, I'll adjust the greenwave policy to temporarily disable gating on the problematic tests. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedorap

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 37 Rawhide 20220524.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2022-05-24 Thread Adam Williamson
0524.n.0: > lorax-37.2-1.fc37.src There's a significant bug in anaconda in this compose - it'll crash if you try to enable the root account during install. We're doing a 20220524.n.1 compose, and I'll manually nominate that as the current validation compose once it's done. -- Adam Williams

[Test-Announce] Re: Fedora 37 Rawhide 20220524.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2022-05-24 Thread Adam Williamson
0524.n.0: > lorax-37.2-1.fc37.src There's a significant bug in anaconda in this compose - it'll crash if you try to enable the root account during install. We're doing a 20220524.n.1 compose, and I'll manually nominate that as the current validation compose once it's done. -- Adam Williams

Re: Fedora-Rawhide-20220520.n.0 compose check report

2022-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
language@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1274850 So almost all of these seem to be due to a problem in the new mesa version: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2088644 which seems to cause significant glitching in both GNOME and KDE at least in the VM configurat

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-05-23 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-05-19 Thread Adam Williamson
a meeting announcement with an agenda as I usually would, and then run the meeting on Monday according to the SOP: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_IRC_meeting_process Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-05-16 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-05-15 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow. I don't have anything much for the agenda, so let's take a post-F36 break! If you're aware of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can run the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson

2022-05-09 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-05-10 Thread Adam Williamson
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Re: Proposal: changes to "default application functionality" release criteria

2022-05-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 19:04 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 09:20:35PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > We could look at what it would take to upstream the app tests we have > > already for Fedora. What I'm afraid of is that we'd wind up finding > > s

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate RC-1.5 Available Now!

2022-05-04 Thread Adam Williamson
on the Active Directory tests: it looks like tflink and sgallagh ran these on RC1, thanks a lot. Since we did get a new sssd between then and RC5 it would be *nice* if we could run them again, but if not we can probably run with the RC1 results in the end. Thanks again everyone! -- Adam William

Re: Proposal: changes to "default application functionality" release criteria

2022-05-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-05-04 at 10:27 +0100, Allan Day wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > ... > > Do GNOME users actually use Contacts and Calendar and Photos? I mean, > > I'm kind of a GNOME ultra, and I don't. > ... > > One of the reasons we need metrics is so we can answer the

Re: Proposal: changes to "default application functionality" release criteria

2022-05-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 19:37 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, May 3 2022 at 05:14:53 PM -0700, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > Stable releases of core components of a major desktop should never > > contain bugs like "deleting contacts sometimes doesn't work"

Re: Proposal: changes to "default application functionality" release criteria

2022-05-03 Thread Adam Williamson
process that deals with that, because *that shouldn't happen*. > 5. Okay, and... bigger: we should aim for more approaches which let us >decouple as much as possible from the Release. (My grand hope is that we >can release every deliverable on its own schedule, but I also understand >

Re: F36 Upgraded, But Now: Failed to resolve allow statement

2022-05-02 Thread Adam Williamson
ntainer-selinux osbuild-selinux as suggested in comment #93. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fed

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-05-02 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-04-29 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday. I don't have anything much for the agenda. There will be a blocker review meeting. If you're aware of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can run the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam

Re: F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-04-29 Thread Adam Williamson
2-eaef082697 I'll try and do it here soon. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedora

Re: F36 testing needed: cloud-on-real-cloud

2022-04-29 Thread Adam Williamson
ursday 5 May. > > > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test > > I should be able to get a little time for this today! Thanks! There will be another RC, but the changes shouldn't really affect these tests, so we will be able to transfer results from RC2 to RC3

Re: Test request: Gnome Text Editor infinite loop (RHBZ 2071228)

2022-04-27 Thread Adam Williamson
://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/36/Fedora-36-20220426.0/compose/Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-36-1.2.iso That would be because this is the bug we fixed in the 1.2 compose :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate RC-1.2 Available Now!

2022-04-27 Thread Adam Williamson
up any non-optional tests that *weren't* done on 1.1 yet, on either 1.1 or 1.2. I'll check the matrices ahead of Go/No-Go on Thursday and transfer any results from 1.1 to 1.2 as necessary. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha http

Re: Suspend not working on Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro AMD Ryzen 7 5800U

2022-04-26 Thread Adam Williamson
stream who might be able to. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

2022-04-25 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-04-25 Thread Adam Williamson
) * coremodule (5) * kparal (4) * sumantro (3) * tflink[m] (1) * davdunc[m (1) * davdunc (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha

[Test-Announce] 2022-04-25 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 36 Blocker Review Meeting

2022-04-23 Thread Adam Williamson
t.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- tes

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-04-18 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can consider running the meeting, perhaps on Tuesday. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing

Re: Problem: package lilv-0.24.12-4.fc37.x86_64 obsoletes lilv < 0.24.12-2 provided by lilv-0.24.12-1.fc36.i686

2022-04-17 Thread Adam Williamson
zilla, thank > > you. > > Seems that one is having issues in f36 too > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2052588 Yeah, it's the same bug. I actually caused this problem, but haven't found a nice way to fix it yet. It's on my to-do li

[Test-Announce] Fedora 36 validation testing event: let's do full testing of Fedora 36 Branched 20220401.n.0

2022-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
IRC/Matrix channel (#fedora-qa on IRC, "Fedora QA (Quality Assurance)" on Matrix). Thanks a lot, folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- tes

Re: F36: Nautilus not mount SMB-Shares

2022-04-01 Thread Adam Williamson
ful: > > the argument is invalid" > > > > Thanks. Can anyone with some smb shares try it, please? Just tried here, it seemed to work, no error messages. My install is a few days out of date so I'll try again after I update. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC:

Re: regression in printing and scanning, when upgrading to f36

2022-03-31 Thread Adam Williamson
;nobody seems to have a great idea what we would then do to resolve it". Is the underlying problem - that apparently existing "legacy" configuration and IPP-over-USB cannot peacefully coexist - really unsolvable? Fixing that seems like the *best* thing we could do... -- Adam William

Re: Spreading test responsibilities to other teams

2022-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
tes the events to email lists other than test-announce easily enough. IIRC it doesn't because long ago when I wrote it, the feedback from other groups was that they can easily subscribe to test-announce to get the announcements and they didn't want the CC spam. But we can

2022-03-28 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-03-28 Thread Adam Williamson
* cmurf (4) * Anders (3) * coremodule (2) * geraldosimiao (2) * bcotton (1) * lruzicka (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyas

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 Available Now!

2022-03-24 Thread Adam Williamson
oposed text starts and finishes. It's easier for people to quote chunks of it and so on, that way. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 Available Now!

2022-03-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 14:19 +1100, Ian Laurie wrote: > On 3/21/22 12:44, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 17:01 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 is now > > > available for testing.

Rawhide users with Secure Boot enabled: DO NOT UPDATE TO GRUB2 2.06-27!

2022-03-23 Thread Adam Williamson
environment - another OS, a rescue image - and downgrade or upgrade grub2 from there. I'm very sorry for any trouble this causes anyone. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list

[Test-Announce] Re: Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.4 Available Now!

2022-03-23 Thread Adam Williamson
lete testing of it. Later today I'll go through the 1.2 and 1.3 matrices and transfer any results that should still be applicable. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 Available Now!

2022-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 14:19 +1100, Ian Laurie wrote: > On 3/21/22 12:44, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 17:01 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 is now > > > available for testing.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 Available Now!

2022-03-20 Thread Adam Williamson
t nirik says the fix should be to untag the older gnome-shell from the "f36-compose" tag and run the compose again. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@l

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-03-21 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

2022-03-14 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
simiao (19) * zodbot (11) * lruzicka (10) * Southern_Gentlem (4) * coremodule (2) * bcotton (2) * tflink (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyas

Re: Proposal: Explicitly allow Council to waive Edition self-identification

2022-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
a-Council/tickets/issue/389#comment-785482 So nobody has objected to this, and we've brought it up in QA and blocker review meetings, and in the Council thread; I'm gonna go ahead and implement it so we can apply the waiver to the bug report. Thanks for the proposal, Ben. -- Adam Willia

Re: Proposal: Explicitly allow Council to waive Edition self-identification

2022-03-15 Thread Adam Williamson
have the power already, if it comes down to it, to say "we have decided that the release criteria should say XXX. Make it so." And I actually would prefer Council do *that* if it comes to it, than just be able to say "whatever the release criteria say, bug YYY is not a blocker". It

Re: Proposal: Explicitly allow Council to waive Edition self-identification

2022-03-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 17:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 12:45:05PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I'm +1 to this; it makes sense for me that Council should be able to > > veto/waive blocker decisions in this specific context, I just wanted > >

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.1 Available Now!

2022-03-11 Thread Adam Williamson
ting as possible done if you can! We'll likely be able to transfer most results to later composes if necessary. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.

Re: Proposal: Explicitly allow Council to waive Edition self-identification

2022-03-11 Thread Adam Williamson
a-Council/tickets/issue/389#comment-785482 I'm +1 to this; it makes sense for me that Council should be able to veto/waive blocker decisions in this specific context, I just wanted there to be a proper mechanism for it. This seems like a reasonable way to achieve that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA

Re: IoT testing page cleanups

2022-03-05 Thread Adam Williamson
esult row' since there's no testcase link, so doing that should fix it. > > Thanks for any guidance, just wanted to double check before I break > everything. Thanks for checking! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-03-07 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-03-04 Thread Adam Williamson
the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

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