good idea,
I think, to get an update with the new code rolled at least, then
people can try it out and we can start getting an idea whether it has
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>
> > For background here, see:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849
> >
> > right now, when installing Fedora alongside a Windows install with
> > BitLo
existing clean Windows installation. As long as the Windows
installation does not have BitLocker enabled, the installer must also
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lly will show on every boot of
every ISO pretty much. But boot should then proceed. Is there any other
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Ideally this announcement should have included them alongside
Workstation and Server somehow, but the Final announcement *definitely*
needs to if we're considering them as editions.
That implies that we also need to work out how to present them on
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ria because our influence has limits, including the
> infrastructure aspects of extensions that we can't control (such as
> the web site itself). So we'd like to see this covered under existing
> criterion.
There is no relevant existing criterion.
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> On 9/13/22 6:31 AM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:35 PM Adam Williamson
> > wrote:
> > > === GNOME extensions ===
> > >
> > > On Fedora Workstation, it must be possible to insta
e rewrite of the thing that generates the critpath
data this week, and it probably wouldn't be to much work, honestly.
The most annoying bit would be the Bodhi frontend stuff, but that's
because I'm bad at frontend dev in general. :P But yeah, this is
definitely off in sky-castle land. I'll add it
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> > Hey folks!
> >
> > So a bug came up at today's blocker review meeting:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868
> >
> > it takes a minut
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Do folks think this is important enough to block Final release on?
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> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:10:00PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 09:14 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > From my perspective, anything that blocks the release is on the
> > >
t changing the critical
path definition to "all release-blocking functionality" rather than
"functionality needed to boot a basically-functional system".
Thanks for the data! I will see if I can diff it against the current
critpath definition; that would be interesting.
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> On ma, 29 elo 2022, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 00:32 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> > > It sounds to me like the problem is "how do we best use the available
> > > automated test resour
that could benefit from testing but don't require it. It also means
> that additional openQA resources can be put to use immediately, while
> still allowing for growth in critical path size, without being wasted on
> unseen results.
This is an interesti
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could test and gate *every* update, and this wouldn't be an issue any
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mount anything but the root partition.
systemd doesn't exactly *do* the mounting, it just...farms it out.
Those errors look almost like it's literally trying to mount the device
`/uuid=a4377658-7454-45ed-aaf2-355f80cc9e9a` , which obviously isn't
going to work...
Can you show your /etc/fstab or th
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> > On Wed, 2022-03-02 at 15:03 -0600, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
>
> [Snip]
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> > > 2 - The "Wired Network" result doesn't appear in relval. Would tha
hoping
it'll be done in time for tomorrow's compose/branch.
>
> In any case it's blocking dnf from updating. Is is a local issue for me
> that I need to fix, or are others seeing this?
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== Proposed Agenda Topics ==
1. Previous meeting follow-up
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> > Adam Williamson composed on 2022-08-02 14:10 (UTC-0700):
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> > > On Tue, 2022-08-02 at 15:20 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
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> > > > Adam Willi
hide-20220802.n.0.iso"
> of="/dev/sdb" status="progress" conv="fsync").
> Both booted fine to the installer, no problems here.
> Hope this helps.
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- to USB with dd then booting it in native UEFI mode on some system,
and see if it works? It'd be good to know if there's a general issue or
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> Adam Williamson composed on 2022-08-02 11:23 (UTC-0700):
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> > On Mon, 2022-08-01 at 11:02 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> > > Is this normal procedure now in rawhide?
>
> > > I copied vmlinuz directl
> How can a stock Fedora kernel not boot on a Fedora system? Really
> puzzling.
Not sure what's going on in your case, but FWIW, I'm on current Rawhide
and not seeing any such problem...
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> Some time ago I proposed some specific networking release criteria. I
> revived the thread back in February, and meeting discussion suggested
> we should be more intentional and specific about wifi r
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the chance. Sigh...
>
> Am I missing something here?
You can do what Sergio suggested - `dnf distro-sync kernel-headers`. If
you now have only the official repos enabled, that should downgrade it
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103766
Two, the new gnome-software version in this compose does not seem to be
able to install updates:
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> Hi folks!
...
> I think doing this could really help us keep Rawhide solid and avoid
> introducing major compose-breaking bugs, at minimal cost. But it's a
> significant change and I wanted to see what folks think. In particul
cally for this purpose, with restrictions to allowable
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It's not that far
evolved beyond "just enough to do the job for the guy who wrote it". If
someone felt inclined, you could improve its interface quite a bit.
If we got either of those approaches far enough along, we could
consider locking out direct editing of the wiki pages somehow, if
th
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base reached a compose
yesterday. This is one big reason I would like to enable gating. :D
Without gating, I have to run around cleaning up cases like that
manually - getting the issues fixed as fast as possible and then re-
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then we could maybe consider whether it's a sufficiently important
feature to be release blocking. If we haven't even (as a project)
decided it's a desirable feature and proved we can implement it (that's
what the Change process is for), blocking the release on it seems
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enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general
principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the
less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more
likely it is to be a blocker.
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> lorax-37.2-1.fc37.src
There's a significant bug in anaconda in this compose - it'll crash if
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20220524.n.1 compose, and I'll manually nominate that as the current
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There's a significant bug in anaconda in this compose - it'll crash if
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> URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1274850
So almost all of these seem to be due to a problem in the new mesa
version:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2088644
which seems to cause significant glitching in both GNOME and KDE at
least in the VM configurat
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> On Tue, May 03, 2022 at 09:20:35PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > We could look at what it would take to upstream the app tests we have
> > already for Fedora. What I'm afraid of is that we'd wind up finding
> > s
on the Active Directory tests: it looks like tflink and
sgallagh ran these on RC1, thanks a lot. Since we did get a new sssd
between then and RC5 it would be *nice* if we could run them again, but
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> ...
> > Do GNOME users actually use Contacts and Calendar and Photos? I mean,
> > I'm kind of a GNOME ultra, and I don't.
> ...
>
> One of the reasons we need metrics is so we can answer the
On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 19:37 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, May 3 2022 at 05:14:53 PM -0700, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > Stable releases of core components of a major desktop should never
> > contain bugs like "deleting contacts sometimes doesn't work"
process that deals with that, because
*that shouldn't happen*.
> 5. Okay, and... bigger: we should aim for more approaches which let us
>decouple as much as possible from the Release. (My grand hope is that we
>can release every deliverable on its own schedule, but I also understand
>
ntainer-selinux osbuild-selinux
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> >
> > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test
>
> I should be able to get a little time for this today!
Thanks!
There will be another RC, but the changes shouldn't really affect these
tests, so we will be able to transfer results from RC2 to RC3
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tests that *weren't* done on 1.1 yet, on either 1.1 or 1.2.
I'll check the matrices ahead of Go/No-Go on Thursday and transfer any
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> > you.
>
> Seems that one is having issues in f36 too
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2052588
Yeah, it's the same bug. I actually caused this problem, but haven't
found a nice way to fix it yet. It's on my to-do li
IRC/Matrix
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> Thanks. Can anyone with some smb shares try it, please?
Just tried here, it seemed to work, no error messages. My install is a
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seems to have a great idea what we would then do to resolve it".
Is the underlying problem - that apparently existing "legacy"
configuration and IPP-over-USB cannot peacefully coexist - really
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> > On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 17:01 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> > > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 is now
> > > available for testing.
environment - another OS, a rescue
image - and downgrade or upgrade grub2 from there.
I'm very sorry for any trouble this causes anyone.
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lete testing of it. Later today I'll go
through the 1.2 and 1.3 matrices and transfer any results that should
still be applicable.
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> On 3/21/22 12:44, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2022-03-20 at 17:01 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> > > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 36 Candidate Beta-1.3 is now
> > > available for testing.
t nirik says the fix should be
to untag the older gnome-shell from the "f36-compose" tag and run the
compose again.
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So nobody has objected to this, and we've brought it up in QA and
blocker review meetings, and in the Council thread; I'm gonna go ahead
and implement it so we can apply the waiver to the bug report. Thanks
for the proposal, Ben.
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have the
power already, if it comes down to it, to say "we have decided that the
release criteria should say XXX. Make it so." And I actually would
prefer Council do *that* if it comes to it, than just be able to say
"whatever the release criteria say, bug YYY is not a blocker". It
On Mon, 2022-03-14 at 17:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 12:45:05PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I'm +1 to this; it makes sense for me that Council should be able to
> > veto/waive blocker decisions in this specific context, I just wanted
> >
ting as possible done if you can! We'll likely be able to
transfer most results to later composes if necessary.
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I'm +1 to this; it makes sense for me that Council should be able to
veto/waive blocker decisions in this specific context, I just wanted
there to be a proper mechanism for it. This seems like a reasonable way
to achieve that.
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esult row' since there's no
testcase link, so doing that should fix it.
>
> Thanks for any guidance, just wanted to double check before I break
> everything.
Thanks for checking!
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