Re: rfc: new beta release criterion for minimum firefox version

2022-02-28 Thread Adam Williamson
explicitly require that the browser on an upgraded Workstation or KDE install meets the "basic functionality" criterion. If Firefox's basic functionality is compromised on upgrade from a current F34 or F35 Workstation or KDE install, that is clearly a blocker under the existing criteria, for me.

[Test-Announce] 2022-02-28 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2022-02-25 Thread Adam Williamson
on. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 36 status 3. Current criteria / test case proposals 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson

Re: Fedora 36 Bodhi updates-testing Activation and Beta Freeze

2022-02-22 Thread Adam Williamson
ing for known-good tests soon. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-02-21 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-02-17 Thread Adam Williamson
an announcement with an agenda like I usually would, and follow https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_IRC_meeting_process to run the meeting. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test

GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
st/1 https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnome-control-center/pull-request/10 and David is going to pick it up and move forward. I'll check back in in the morning. Thanks folks, and sorry again for the trouble! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyas

Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-02-15 Thread Adam Williamson
iterion > live just now: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#software-install-remove-update > > Thanks everyone for participating! Thanks Kamil! So the next step would be to draft test cases for the additional blocking functionality. Do we have a plan for tha

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-02-14 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-02-13 Thread Adam Williamson
! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Tweaks to printing test cases and matrix

2022-02-12 Thread Adam Williamson
; test will still require a human to do it. This all seemed kinda 'obvious' in light of the meeting discussion, so I figured it didn't need a draft and review, but I wanted to mention it at least! If anyone sees any problems with it, please yell and we can fix it. Thanks! -- Ad

Re: Proposal: revise "Default application functionality" final criterion to be clearer

2022-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
Launchers policy. === The last two blocks actually read slightly awkwardly together like that, but after messing with it a for a bit, I can't find a way to combine them that reads better. So let's leave it that way. Thanks for the catches! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter

2022-02-07 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
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Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
bout the purpose of the note, so I like it more. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.f

Re: Image build for Lenovo P1 G4 preload

2022-02-03 Thread Adam Williamson
think releng did this for F34, right? I think Mohan and Kevin read this list, so let's see if they chip in. Sorry to hear about the nouveau driver issues :| Do you have upstream engagement there? I'm not honestly sure how much work anyone at RH is doing on nouveau these days, but if it would help I can

Package review wanted - xterm-console

2022-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
it does it. I'd be happy to swap for a package review of similar complexity, or some other approximately equal task which you need doing and which I can do :) Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-01-24 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday. I don't have anything urgent for this week. If you're aware of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw

2022-01-24 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-01-28 Thread Adam Williamson
miao (5) * kparal (3) * coremodule (3) * copperi[m] (2) * bytehackr (1) * frantisekz (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://w

Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-01-24 at 15:28 +0100, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:36 AM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2022-01-21 at 18:20 -0500, John Mellor wrote: > > > > > > Ok, so would that allowance not violate 2 of the proposed criteria: >

Re: deprecate bootloader selection criterion

2022-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
or UEFI installs is intentional or has really been thought about, so there could be scope for changing that, and clarifying the release criteria expectations about it. But both the behaviour and the desire for it were fairly clearly established for BIOS installs. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw

[Test-Announce] 2022-01-24 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2022-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
on Monday! If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 36 status 3. Current criteria / test case proposals 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam

Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
release criteria: they define the most important parts of existing behaviour. We're not designing *new* desired behaviour here. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedorap

Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
s the distribution has chosen to use have chosen to require reboots on updates, and the distribution has decided that it's fine with that (as we have). Release criteria are not tools for advocacy about how we we like the software to work. That should be done elsewhere. -- Adam Williamso

Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
al milestone: This definitely seems like an improvement to me. Thanks a lot for drafting it. I think it's probably fine to go ahead with it at least as a first take, we can always refine it later as we go along. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: ad

Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
igned to work, and it's clearly important enough that we should make it part of the release criteria that things actually work that way. But for traditional RPM-based installs, it doesn't really seem like something we can usefully address in the criteria to me. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC:

Proposal: revise "Default application functionality" final criterion to be clearer

2022-01-20 Thread Adam Williamson
ment. === Thoughts? Is this an improvement? Anyone have a better idea? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2022-01-17 Fedora QA Meeting

2022-01-14 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday. I don't have anything urgent for this week. If you're aware of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw

Re: In regard to testing Fedora 36 Rawhide 20220114.n.0

2022-01-14 Thread Adam Williamson
gnome-desktop3 to gnome-desktop3-41.3-1.fc36 2. Downgrade gnome-initial-setup to gnome-initial-setup-41.2-1.fc36 3. Remove libgweather4 I *hope* that should do it, if there are no other problems hidden behind the initial ones. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw |

2022-01-10 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-01-11 Thread Adam Williamson
* nirik (1) * bytehackr (1) * jforbes (1) * mattdm (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _

[Test-Announce] 2022-01-10 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2022-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 36 status 3. Current criteria / test case proposals 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test

2022-01-03 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2022-01-07 Thread Adam Williamson
* lruzicka2 (5) * SeanM[m] (3) * cmurf[m] (3) * pboy (2) * pingou (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _

[Test-Announce] 2022-01-03 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2022-01-02 Thread Adam Williamson
. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 36 status 3. Current criteria / test case proposals 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce

Re: is an accidentally reverted Fedora feature/change a blocker?

2021-12-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2021-12-18 at 15:16 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 10:49:53AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > This makes sense to me. It might also make sense for big changes to also > > > include proposed updates to the validation criteria, just as m

Re: is an accidentally reverted Fedora feature/change a blocker?

2021-12-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2021-12-18 at 13:23 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 09:09:17AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > However, I think there'd be a solid case for FESCo to take anything > > like this as a blocker, and procedurally that makes more sense too - > > Chan

Re: is an accidentally reverted Fedora feature/change a blocker?

2021-12-18 Thread Adam Williamson
just went and checked, and last year we "improved" those things to use commands that work with both resolved and the old setup, so the same commands could be used on both F33 (old way, still supported at the time) and F34+ (meant to be the new way). So that's why we didn't run into thi

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-12-20 and 2021-12-27 Fedora QA Meetings

2021-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the next couple of QA meetings, as it's the holiday season and folks both RHer and non-RHer will likely be busy. There's nothing urgent that needs addressing, so far as I know. We'll reconvene in the New Year, on January 3rd 2022. Happy holidays everyone! -- Adam

2021-12-13 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
--- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * adamw (24) * lruzicka2 (13) * zodbot (12) * Southern_Gentlem (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: Common Issues on Ask Fedora -- experiment now public

2021-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
proposed category, but we're working > on them). > > QA team, your feedback very appreciated here! Thanks for the work on that, Matthew. I'm on PTO from tomorrow until the new year, so my feedback will probably have to wait for then, sorry! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adam

Re: F35 retrospective follow-up: proposed actions

2021-12-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-11-26 at 16:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! So the F35 retrospective has been up for a while: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_QA_Retrospective > > I thought I'd send out my planned set of actions in response to the > points raised there.

[Test-Announce] 2021-12-13 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-12-12 Thread Adam Williamson
/ community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-12-06 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list

2021-11-29 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
t (lines said) --- * adamw (54) * sumantro (16) * zodbot (9) * lruzicka2 (9) * frantisekz (2) * bytehackr (2) * core_module (1) * coremodule (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson

Re: F35 retrospective follow-up: proposed actions

2021-11-29 Thread Adam Williamson
cycle, Sumantro could include it on the list for this time around maybe. As I said, I think having specific criteria - and then specific test cases to back the criteria - for this area will help as well. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://

2021-11-22 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-11-26 Thread Adam Williamson
0) * zodbot (10) * copperi[m] (7) * coremodule (6) * bytehackr (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

2021-11-01 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-11-26 Thread Adam Williamson
or package management and system settings * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * adamw (76) * kparal (32) * zodbot (9) * coremodule (2) * cmurf[m] (2) * bcotton (1) * Southern_Gentlem (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.3 .. _`MeetBot`: https

[Test-Announce] 2021-11-29 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-11-26 Thread Adam Williamson
! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 36 status 3. Fedora 35 Retrospective proposed actions 4. Current criteria / test case proposals 5. Test Day / community event status 6. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https

F35 retrospective follow-up: proposed actions

2021-11-26 Thread Adam Williamson
ons. How does this sound to everyone? Please add any suggestions you have! And there's still time to add new items to the retrospective itself, if any new ones show up, I'll update this list of proposed actions. Thanks everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://

Re: Apply for QA Group

2021-11-24 Thread Adam Williamson
-docs/ > > Please feel free to ask any question here on the mailing list or in the > other communication channels (Matrix, IRC, Telegram). Thanks for taking care of this, Alessio! Welcome to the new folks :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha ht

Re: Proposal: Migrate “Common Bugs” from the wiki to Ask Fedora

2021-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
s > http://bit.ly/fedora-commonbugs-proposed > and while there are definitely good-faith proposals there, there also seem > to be at least _some_ cases where someone has a bug that is important and > urgent to them and therefore they have set a bunch of random keywords > because they can. Y

[Test-Announce] 2021-11-22 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
== 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 36 status 3. Fedora 35 Retrospective thoughts 4. Current criteria / test case proposals 5. Test Day / community event status 6. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

Bodhi "Re-Trigger Tests" now works for openQA tests

2021-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
pagure.io/fedora-qa/fedora_openqa/issues , if you have any problems with this. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-11-15 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-11-14 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! As per the feedback to my mail on test@, I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday as I won't be around to run it. We'll meet next week instead. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

Re: Proposal: Migrate “Common Bugs” from the wiki to Ask Fedora

2021-11-12 Thread Adam Williamson
fter upgrade|2016253}} the 'no-sound-on-upgrade' text is used as the anchor title, and the "link to this item" link it generates uses that anchor. So we can change the human-readable title - "No sound after upgrade" - without changing the anchor link, which is what we put in the bug whit

Meeting on 2021-11-15: options

2021-11-12 Thread Adam Williamson
/ test case proposals 5. Test Day / community event status 6. Open floor So, we can either wait one more week, or someone else can volunteer to run the meeting on Monday in my stead. Does anyone want to do that, or should we wait till 2021-11-22? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw

Notice: openQA test failures today - expected

2021-11-09 Thread Adam Williamson
will wait for it to be back. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposal: Migrate “Common Bugs” from the wiki to Ask Fedora

2021-11-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2021-11-07 at 15:46 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 11:55:39PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > * Acknowledged and had a definite plan to replace the existing tooling > > and practices at least at the same level as currently. > > Okay, cool. C

Re: Fedora-Rawhide-20211104.n.0 compose check report

2021-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
M with virtio graphics: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2020438 I think I found an upstream report and patch, so I'm hoping Justin will be able to fix this soon. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___

Re: Proposal: Migrate “Common Bugs” from the wiki to Ask Fedora

2021-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
hings out... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-11-08 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Test-Announce] Fedora 35 QA Retrospective page is up

2021-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
36 and beyond -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposal: Migrate “Common Bugs” from the wiki to Ask Fedora

2021-11-05 Thread Adam Williamson
ous manual work because I'd always find something less tedious to do, and nobody else does it either, so the pages don't get updated. Even *with* the script I only get around to updating them a few times per release, but it beats them never getting updated at all. I suppose the other way I'd support thi

[Test-Announce] 2021-11-01 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-10-31 Thread Adam Williamson
cycle 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

Keyboard layout criterion update proposal

2021-10-28 Thread Adam Williamson
tually *work* better with Wayland first... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Cod

Re: system-upgrade blocked by grubby/grub2-tools-minimal

2021-10-27 Thread Adam Williamson
othing on my installed system requires grubby, but two things recommend it: crypto-policies-scripts and kexec-tools . If soft deps are enabled, either of those could be pulling it in. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

[Test-Announce] 2021-10-25 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-a

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-10-25 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test

Re: Fedora 35 status and testing needed

2021-10-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2021-10-19 at 00:03 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! Just wanted to give an update on Fedora 35 status and beg for > testing :D Just another quick update: RC1 is now building and will hopefully arrive soon. There is one accepted blocker and two proposed blockers not fixed

Fedora 35 status and testing needed

2021-10-19 Thread Adam Williamson
, at https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/testcase_stats/35/Desktop.html we can see that several of the desktop tests have not yet been run on aarch64; it'd be great if anyone with an aarch64 system capable of running Workstation could run those tests and add the results. Thanks everyone! -- Adam

[Test-Announce] 2021-10-18 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-10-15 Thread Adam Williamson
t.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-10-18 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-10-15 Thread Adam Williamson
to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-10-11 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-10-15 Thread Adam Williamson
and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

Re: Fedora Linux 35 Final blocker review summary

2021-10-15 Thread Adam Williamson
6295 #4 is odd as it seems to behave differently for different people at different times; we haven't figured out the condition that causes the 'bad' state yet. Nobody else appears to be trying to help. I'm not confident we are going to have these fixed in time. -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: Fedora Workstation Installation crashing when in EFI

2021-10-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2021-10-11 at 23:20 +, Ward, David - 0665 - MITLL wrote: > On 9/29/21 3:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-09-29 at 16:04 +, Patrick McAfee wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > => First time posting here. When I tried to install the beta on >

[Test-Announce] 2021-10-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
t.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.

[Test-Announce] ** UPDATE ** 2021-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC - Special Fedora QA Meeting: Wireplumber Decision

2021-10-04 Thread Adam Williamson
/teams/fesco/fesco.2021-10-04-19.03.html [1] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2670 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WirePlumber -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list

[Test-Announce] 2021-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC - Special Fedora QA Meeting: Wireplumber Decision

2021-10-04 Thread Adam Williamson
to the simple session manager, or stick with Wireplumber? [0] https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2021-10-04-19.03.html [1] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2670 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WirePlumber -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https

[Test-Announce] 2021-10-04 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
t.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedoraproject.

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-10-04 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting on Monday. I don't have much for the agenda. There will be a blocker review meeting. If you're aware of anything it would be useful to discuss this week, please do reply to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam

Re: Fedora Workstation Installation crashing when in EFI

2021-09-29 Thread Adam Williamson
s the installer show you any kind of crash report interface, or does it just flat out disappear? If it just goes away, we'll probably need to see what's in the various installer log files in /tmp , plus the system journal. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw

2021-09-27 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
adamw (44) * bittin (20) * zodbot (10) * sumantro (6) * coremodule (4) * bcotton (3) * frantisekz (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.3 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyas

[Test-Announce] 2021-09-27 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-09-24 Thread Adam Williamson
a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson

[Test-Announce] 2021-09-27 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-09-24 Thread Adam Williamson
any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 35 status 3. Test Day / community event status 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https

Beta RC-1.1/RC-1.2 status

2021-09-23 Thread Adam Williamson
to repeat tests that were already run with RC-1.1, focus on tests that have not yet been run. Thanks folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org

2021-09-20 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
llagher (5) * tflink (3) * coremodule (3) * kk4ewt[m] (2) * jforbes (2) * pwhalen (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.3 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ te

Re: [Test-Announce] 2021-09-13 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
and aren't handled through the release blocker process. An FTBFS package is only considered to be blocking the release if we actually need to rebuild the package in order to fix some *other* problem which is in itself release-critical. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha ht

Re: criterion update proposal: Keyboard layout configuration in the Initial setup

2021-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
ease-blocking desktop, if the user account does > not have its own keyboard layout configuration for that desktop (if there > is such a user/desktop-specific configuration, it must be used when that > user logs in to that desktop) > > > Please comment, thank

Re: [Proposal] Remove the QA:Testcase_desktop_app_basic - archive manager from matrix

2021-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
nager", not "stop testing archive management". Just greying out the line for "archive manager" on Workstation seems to risk the bad outcome. Could we perhaps keep the line and add a footnote that specifies the "archive manager" role on Workstation is fulfilled by Naut

[Test-Announce] 2021-09-20 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
t.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le...@lists.fedorap

[Test-Announce] 2021-09-20 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 35 status 3. Startup time criteria 4. Test Day / community event status 5. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-09-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2021-09-17 at 09:34 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:17 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Wed, 2021-08-25 at 11:33 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 11:03 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > Or if we want to

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-09-16 Thread Adam Williamson
'll maybe propose an adjustment next week. In the mean time, I'll propose the bug we have in F35 Beta as a blocker for review at the meeting tomorrow. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mai

Re: Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-35-20210908.n.0 issue

2021-09-09 Thread Adam Williamson
r the install and reboot are done; just like it does with wired. Is > that likely or am I having a peasent dream? I'm having trouble parsing your email, but as far as I can tell, it reads like at no point did you actually try to connect to a wireless network in the installer. But then your con

[Test-Announce] 2021-09-06 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-09-03 Thread Adam Williamson
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-a

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-09-06 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-09-03 Thread Adam Williamson
and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

Testing request: pending F35 Beta blocker/FE fixes

2021-09-02 Thread Adam Williamson
://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-53cbc180c9 (gnome-control-center etc.) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test

[Test-Announce] 2021-08-30 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-08-27 Thread Adam Williamson
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-a

[Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2021-08-30 Fedora QA Meeting

2021-08-27 Thread Adam Williamson
and run the meeting. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test-announce mailing list -- test-announce@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-announce-le

Re: Fedora Linux 35 Beta blocker status summary

2021-08-27 Thread Adam Williamson
; — MODIFIED > ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2021-d169e03b3f I already did, but extra confirmation would be handy. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-08-25 Thread Adam Williamson
lways measure and compare it with a second+ boot. Yeah, I would be in favour of making the language as vague as we want the evaluation to be. If it specifies an exact time, we should be able to measure it with a stopwatch. If we can't, let's just say "within a reasonable time" or something vague

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
-one really objected to this proposal, right? Should we just go ahead and implement it, or what? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: 2021-08-23 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2021-08-23 at 17:17 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:50:00AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > == > > #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting > > == > > > * Fed

2021-08-23 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes

2021-08-23 Thread Adam Williamson
) * nirik (2) * kparal (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.3 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

[Test-Announce] 2021-08-23 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2021-08-20 Thread Adam Williamson
for the agenda. If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this email and suggest them! Thanks. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 35 status and Change check-in 3. Test Day / community event status 4. Open floor -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC

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