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> Hi folks!
>
> So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have
> explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started
> to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related is
On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 10:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> >
> > Basic networking
> >
> > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections
> > using DHCP and st
from install of
> f33-backgrounds-mate-33.0.2-1.fc33.noarch conflicts with file from package
> f32-backgrounds-mate-32.2.2-2.fc33.noarch
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On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 15:44 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 2:12 AM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> > === Network requirements ===
> >
> > Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system
> > environments. For any given in
On Wed, 2020-08-26 at 08:39 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 8/25/20 8:57 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So the 'official' doc on this, AFAIK, is
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/rawhide/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview/
> > which still cit
On Tue, 2020-08-25 at 15:50 -0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-08-21 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > VPN connections
> >
> >
> >
> > Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for
> >
to stand behind the experience of running Workstation or KDE in
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principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the
less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more
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On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 19:16 +0200, Alessio wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-08-20 at 09:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > You could try editing all the scaled lines in that
> > file to read zoom, restarting, and see if it looks
> > better...
>
> Yes, much better.
&g
fill the screen as best as
possible, but *without* distorting it, and fills in any remaining space
with color bars. We should probably go back to using 'zoom' with this
image, I guess?
You could try editing all the scaled lines in that
file to read zoom, restarting, and see if it looks
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st means either Cisco hasn't set the
repo up for Rawhide/F34 yet, or we haven't updated the mapping in
mirrormanager yet. It shouldn't be a big problem, no (just means you
won't get any openh264 updates that show up until it's resolved).
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h for accepting me at Fedora Project. I will be joining on
> IRC(Freenode) with my existing username vipul.
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> configured in the live session. Isn't it?
I think this is probably:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1858439
That should actually be fixed in today's compose. If the compose
succeeds (it's running ATM), can you try it out and see? T
ments related to log
in, log out, shutdown, restart, and user switch together we should be
able to come up with a better option either than a standalone new
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a blocker review meeting either. There are three proposed
Beta blockers, we can either wait for next week, vote in-bug, or
someone else can run a meeting.
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and we're working towards automating them as much as possible. I'm not
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and indeed you can:
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that (short) table contains all the download links.
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> git-versions
> and some are not ?
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38.69 KiB
> Size change: 691 B
> Changelog:
> * Mon Jun 22 2020 Thorsten Leemhuis info> - 0.9.0-0
> - Update to 0.9.0 and update list of requires
This looks like a mistake, you forgot to bump the release to 1 when
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For anyone who doesn't read users@ or devel@, this might be of
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I'm HPLIP maintainer in Fedora and I would
and sorry for the
spurious test failures, I'll try to get that sorted ASAP.
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# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2020-06-15
# Time: 15:00 UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
Greetings testers!
We didn't meet for a few weeks, so let's check in and see where
things are.
If anyone has any other
to this mail and we can go ahead and run the meeting.
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F33 blocker review meetings - there's
only a handful of proposed blockers ATM and I don't see a lot of value
in reviewing them right now, so I haven't been proposing meetings. If
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have a quick check in.
If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
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== Proposed Agenda Topics ==
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On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 13:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 15:23 -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> > On 5/21/20 2:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 14:28 -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> > > > It appears relval d
On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 15:23 -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> On 5/21/20 2:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2020-05-21 at 14:28 -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> > > It appears relval does not recognize IoT composes? Or at least, I cannot
> > > give it a re
ng. For instance,
with report-results:
[adamw@adam ansible-infra (mediawiki-string-functions)]$ relval report-results
--dist=Fedora-IoT
Detecting current compose version...
Will report results for compose: Fedora-IoT 33 RC 20200521.0
Confirm y/n?
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rg//work/tasks/7935/44577935/screenshot.ppm
this *may* be similar to the recent live install bug, I guess, and
caused by the same changes in grub2:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1836020
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treat this whole
stream as 'optional extra' testing, it still won't hurt to have the
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> release validation testing, see:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
Note live installs are known to be broken in this compose. We are
working on fixing this. See:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1836020
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ever get enough roundtuits...
> Is using the
> approach I took a problem for the test?
Not at all.
> Is their a better approach I could take to this?
It sounds like you're dealing with it fine :) We do have this test case
fully automated in openQA too, but it's always good to hav
driver."
> Perhaps I can add it as another footnote box directly to the criterion, I'm
> not sure. AdamW, what do you think?
I agree that "in their default configuration" covers it, but an
explicit footnote couldn't hurt, it's always good to be clear.
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dates from the GUI are only available on certain models - it
depends on the manufacturer publishing the updates in a compatible way.
https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices/ has the list of supported devices (not
all of these are laptops, the same system can be used to update the
firmware on peripherals
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> > se
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> > On Tue, 2020-04-28 at 09:26 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:13 am, Adam Williamson
> > > wrote:
> > > >
ome very minor though, but ... -
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> Is not particularly helpful as you need to enable the
> updates-testing-modular repo.
>
> I'm assuming it would be best to mention that in that page - but maybe
> someone has a different idea about how to handle modular updates?
No, just the page hasn't been updated since Modula
5 with fixes for all those issues and more:
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9403#comment-643462
it should show up in 6-8 hours, please be ready to test! Thanks.
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5 with fixes for all those issues and more:
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9403#comment-643462
it should show up in 6-8 hours, please be ready to test! Thanks.
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On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 14:13 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
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> On 4/21/20 13:25, Adam Williamson wrote:
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>
> > > stardict-dic-en
> > > stardict-dic-ja
> >
> > These were both retired as they were unmaintained. You can always
if a package has been retired you'll see it contains only a
`dead.package` file (and the last commit will be something about
retiring it).
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Hey folks! Just a heads up, I've just requested a new RC compose for
F32 Final. It should show up in 6-8 hours or so. Please help fill out
the validation for it. The changes since RC3 are here:
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9403#comment-643176
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point.
At present there's no real difference between the last couple of
nightly composes for F32 because it's frozen and we haven't pushed
anything through the freeze for the last day or two. When we fix the
outstanding blockers (and maybe some FEs) that will change a bit.
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e on whether they're
accepted blockers, *then* decide if want to discuss waiving any. And we
either have to waive all outstanding accepted blockers or not waive any
of them.
Still, I can see some awkward cases possible here. We might hit
something very awkward that would require months of upstream work
anding. I think the second format would serve us
> best.
>
> 1. Step 1
> 2. Expected result 1
> 3. Step 2
> 4. Expected result 2
>
> This makes the test case easier to read with lower chance of confusion.
I think there are cases where each works better, there's no harm i
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 12:24 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
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> On 4/16/20 11:21, Adam Williamson wrote:
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>
>
> > If we're gonna write test cases like that, we should probably just have
> > an alternative template, or an alternative "mode" for the tem
robably just have
an alternative template, or an alternative "mode" for the template we
have. I don't like using a template which clearly expects the "Here are
the steps, and here are the expected results" format but actually uses
"Step 1, step 1 expected result, step 2, step 2
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 13:23 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 11:46 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
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> > Honestly, I don't really like...any of these. I kinda get the intent
> > but they all feel icky, mushy and squishy.
> >
>
> It also feels t
On Wed, 2020-04-15 at 18:15 -0400, Dusty Mabe wrote:
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> On 4/15/20 3:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Hi folks! So I'm checking over the F32 Final validation test results
> > for the current RC (1.3) and one thing we're missing is Cloud tests:
> >
> >
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