ing to work on in his copious spare
time. Entirely inexplicably, given all those reams and reams of spare
time he has, this hasn't happened yet. That's the real problem here.
Re-arranging the release criteria deckchairs isn't going to help, I
don't think. Fundamentally, the t
-results' (after 'dnf -y
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> tested via remote login, or keeping one singular testcase across all
> platforms?
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> continue using ssh in this testcase, I think it would be a good idea to
> change it and keep just one testcase for all in this instance.
I definitely don't support that. I'd prefer to either just leave it as
it is, or find another service we have similar confidence
to find any critical errors in RC 1.2, and
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On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 21:20 +0200, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 20:14, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > Hi folks!
> >
> > So, during Fedora 32 Final blocker review, a bug relating to "user
> > switching" came up for review:
> >
> >
ards
similar across our release-blocking desktops, but I do think we could
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ll is nominal and functional from that perspective.
>
> LibreOffice preinstalled. Utility apps are already all grouped together
> so that looks nice.
>
> I am sending this email using this new install.
Glad it's working for you. Thanks for testing!
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othing happens, each time one clicks the number of crashes in abrt
> seems to increase by one too.
>
> I don't remember testing it on F31, so I cannot say if this is a bug in
> F32 or one that has always been there.
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/849
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> instead of those 10 and differentiate them on the matrix level the same way
> as we do with e.g. "Testcase_Anaconda_save_traceback_to_bugzilla" [1]. So
> like this:
> Testcase_desktop_app_single (web browser)
> Testcase_desktop_app_single (file manager
don't see the benefit - I'd
rather keep it more flexible, but just say that in general we're going
to have longer lag times from candidate availability to full test
coverage than we usually do (assuming WFH is still in effect at that
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> real printer at home, I think. I don't.
I have one, though it's usually connected by ethernet, I can probably
temporarily connect it via USB to my test box to check this.
> Regarding our Beijing office, I think th
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All modules are getting reset during upgrade, that's intended.
Confirmed, sorry if my description was unclear! If you see modules
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On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 17:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-03-10 at 23:42 +, George R Goffe via test wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just tried to boot this image "
> > https://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Everyth
194
I hadn't looked into it yet, though, as I'm too busy with F32 :/
anaconda devs were already aware of and have filed one bug with dracut
050:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1811070
I don't know if that's also causing failures in non-kickstart case,
though. I'll look into it a bit.
-
has issues, don't -1 the update
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es a ton of stuff; that
could be the culprit. The other thing I'd look at is sssd and related
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>
> formally the 'n' is a 'compose type suffix' indicating that the
> 'compose type' for this compose is 'nightly'; the digit in question
> that comes after the compose type suffix is called the 'respin'.
Sorry, should'
ect:
https://github.com/release-engineering/productmd
formally the 'n' is a 'compose type suffix' indicating that the
'compose type' for this compose is 'nightly'; the digit in question
that comes after the compose type suffix is called the 'respin'.
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ase are
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Grunt work like this is awful and never done right by humans. It should
be done by robots.
I can't find the ticket where I went nuts about this before any more,
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ame f31
>
> I'm guessing you mean f32?
I meant what I pasted was still in the spec file - Luya forgot to
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der folders in favour of a single wallpapers (aside the time of day
> theme) using system settings thus tremendously saving space.
You forgot something:
%global fedora_release_name f31
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leased until at least ~19 days from
now unless the bug is given a freeze exception, because we are in Beta
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SOP for running a blocker review meeting:
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Beta+Final criteria apply.
The only other thing I'd say is it seems a bit incomplete: it doesn't
quite get to the end of the process and explain that we ultimately
release when we have an RC with no known blocker bugs and sufficient
test coverage.
Otherwise, looks good! Thanks a lot for writing
to be broken, and so do software
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please try again with Fedora-Rawhide-20200219.n.0 or the next 32
compose when we get one (18.n.1 appears to have got stuck somehow) - it
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just *pre* releases.
You *could* talk about this on the users list, but I don't think it's
off topic here at all!
Soham, looks like Kamil helped you out in the bug report itself. Thanks
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compose:
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ps-to-do type
of test case in some situations as well, of course. It all depends on
the circumstances.
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> >
> > Are there significant resource consumption differences between GNOME
> > and GNOME Classic? Would GNOME Classic by default on aarch64 be a
> > valid option?
>
> My understanding is that Classic is purely a look and feel thing.
Me too, more or less. They're still bot
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They are in the QA SOPs category:
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and now the SOPs are official, I went ahead and made alciregi a
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49 .
Also, when you click on it, a crash happens. That's also a bug, and
it's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libgnomekbd/issues/1 .
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build and work:
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I guess one remaining question is where should the test go. To me it
makes most sense for it to be a Base test in the Base matrix:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Base_test_matrix
so to be consistent with the other tests there, its final name should
be 'QA:Testcase_base_reboot_unmount'.
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ms to be crashing
and breaking the GNOME and Cockpit update tests, and 389-ds-base had
some bugs which break FreeIPA server deployment. I've backported the
389-ds-base fixes so the next compose should be OK for FreeIPA, I'll
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install, and the
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> >
> > To go with the draft SOP for handling group membership requests, here's
> > a draft SOP for applying to be a sponsor, and hand
rg/wiki/QA/Join has several suggestions for
things you can start out by doing. We don't have any Test Days coming
up right now, but you could start out with testing updates:
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Sumantro, who usually handles community events, has been away lately,
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here is no Official Policy on this, or anything, and much as I
love writing them it doesn't really seem like an appropriate topic for
one, it seems like more of an informal thing that may depend on the
people involved.
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On Wed, 2020-01-01 at 18:25 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
> for Fedora 32 Rawhide 20200101.n.0.
Happy New Year, everyone! :D
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s:
"Except where otherwise specified, each of these requirements applies
to all supported configurations described above."
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ys are a quiet
period for Fedora, but I see you've been around IRC so I didn't want to
leave you hanging! Thanks for volunteering to help out, and I'll
sponsor your group membership if it hasn't already been done. You can
expect to see activity pick up again in the New Year :)
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to discuss this week,
please do reply to this mail. I may not be around to run the meeting,
though, I'm officially going to be off work as I'm burning off the
vacation days I have left over for this year. I may be around anyway,
but I'm not committed to it. :P
Thanks!
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On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 15:18 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 21:56 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> > Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
> > for Fedora 32 Rawhide 20191212.n.1. Please help run some tests for this
>
below
>
> Failed openQA tests: 85/165 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm)
This compose seems to be just utterly broken - not a single image
boots. I'm currently investigating in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1783066 .
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roken, don't bother
testing it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1783066
I'll try and get the bug figured out soon so we can nominate a working
compose by tomorrow.
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h
roken, don't bother
testing it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1783066
I'll try and get the bug figured out soon so we can nominate a working
compose by tomorrow.
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h
IBAXBSQIB57SJSY/#E5RJTWF6VZLQFWHB5IBAXBSQIB57SJSY
which may be helpful for context.
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should have them login to their user account.
>
> I've not found the need to invoke sudo, su, or sudo su.
Running journalctl as regular user works, but only shows you the
messages from that user's session. It doesn't show you the full system
journal.
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ot@adam sysprof (master *%)]# # cat /tmp/foo
commands should always, always be easy to copy/paste.
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