Re: F16 - random shutdown delays

2011-11-02 Thread JB
if there is something similar to 'systemd-analyze blame' that would apply to shutdown/reboot (instead of boot-up) time ? Also with 'systemd-analyze plot' capability ? JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-07 Thread JB
-outage will leave the file in an inconsistent state. Well, the only solution is a new option for mv(1), right ? mv --follow-symlink ... JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-06 Thread JB
Michael Schwendt mschwendt at gmail.com writes: On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:25:19 + (UTC), J (JB) wrote: I think you criticize him unjustly. grub2-mkconfig is just a brute-force shell script that ends with # none of the children aborted with error, install the new grub.cfg mv -f

Fedora 16 beta vice Knoppix

2011-10-04 Thread JB
) and DE with low resources usage and tailored for desktops - Fedora having systemd parallel boot and DE tailored for small and simple devices JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Fedora 16 beta vice Knoppix

2011-10-04 Thread JB
Adam Jackson ajax at redhat.com writes: ... Have you tried using systemd's built-in boot profiling infrastructure to see where this time is being spent? http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/blame-game.html ... Have to install to a hd first. Results will be tomorrow. JB -- test mailing

Re: Firefox crash

2011-08-30 Thread JB
/glibc-2.14.90-6 I downgraded to: glibc.i686 2.14.90-4 @fedora and just got a crash again (dump submitted via Firefox built-in reporter). JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

F16 - why yum distro-sync wants to downgrade ?

2011-08-24 Thread JB
on user Command # yum list pm-utils Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks, presto, priorities ... Installed Packages pm-utils.i6861.4.1-11.fc16 @updates-testing # JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: F16 - why yum distro-sync wants to downgrade ?

2011-08-24 Thread JB
seth vidal skvidal at fedoraproject.org writes: On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 09:24 -0400, seth vidal wrote: On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 06:40 +, JB wrote: Hi, could you please interpret what is happening here - why the downgrades ? $ cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 16

Trusted Boot project in F16

2011-06-23 Thread JB
available from http://sf.net/projects/tmpdd Are these drivers open-source ? Is TPM device driver open-source ? Well, you know what to ask about ... JB Angela GHEORGHIU - Puccini - La Bohème - Si mi chiamano Mimi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiyT5_UipMs -- test mailing list test

Re: Trusted Boot project in F16

2011-06-23 Thread JB
...@lists.fedoraproject.org No luck. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Trusted Boot project in F16

2011-06-23 Thread JB
Kevin Fenzi kevin at scrye.com writes: ... I've contacted JB off list to get this fixed up. kevin All is well. Sorry about that list subscription confusion on my part :-) Thanks Kevin. I posted it to devel list as well now, so you may take a look at that thread too if interested. JB

Re: Draft btrfs testcase

2011-06-12 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... These are random ideas for your btrfs test plan. Various tests. - test small and large files, also directories - sequential vs random read/write - cp, mv, rm - do not forget to use 'sync' where appropriate in your tests sync(1) - with and without

Re: Draft btrfs testcase

2011-06-10 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... I want to thank Kevin Martin for passing to us on the Fedora users list a reference to a site that performed various fs tests, including btrfs. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/399321.html Because this list is more relevant

Re: Draft btrfs testcase

2011-06-06 Thread JB
. ... JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

OT: GNOME a Linux-only project ? systemd a dependency of GNOME 3 ?

2011-05-22 Thread JB
- proposal for GNOME to be Linux-only project Enjoy it :-) JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: BtrFs first impressions...

2011-05-21 Thread JB
Rob Healey robhealey1 at gmail.com writes: ... Do you have this package installed ? yum-presto JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: without selinux

2011-05-20 Thread JB
covers, smiling, waving arms in my direction, ... I do not know ... I do not like them ... :-) JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

F15 - status of /run/user, /dev/shm, and potential for a DoS attack

2011-05-18 Thread JB
the users can protect their machines thru a temporary remedy ? JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F15 - status of /run/user, /dev/shm, and potential for a DoS attack

2011-05-18 Thread JB
to ship a product that has a known, proven, and discussed DoS attack venue with this potential implication ? JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F15 - status of /run/user, /dev/shm, and potential for a DoS attack

2011-05-18 Thread JB
Stephen John Smoogen smooge at gmail.com writes: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:41, JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com wrote: Is Fedora's policy to ship a product that has a known, proven, and discussed DoS attack venue with this potential implication ? Is this a strawman question or some

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-28 Thread JB
Jon Masters jonathan at jonmasters.org writes: ... I want the following features: ... In short, I want GNOME 2.x back. It was absolutely perfect for my needs and I had very few non-trivial bug related complaints :) ... Amen, Sir ! It begs the question, you have had a good day today. JB

Well, I have tried systemd now ...

2011-04-26 Thread JB
a concise and clear output ! And it makes the udev subsystem (as seen by udevadm, etc) a peanut by comparison :-) OK. It is your turn. Do not be shy, my fellow Fedora Linux users - share with us your impressions. As I said, systemd is the new kid on the block, soon to be gold. JB http

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-26 Thread JB
Bill Nottingham notting at redhat.com writes: JB (jb.1234abcd at gmail.com) said: Now this: http://gnome3.org/ A satisfying experience, whatever kind of computer you use: GNOME 3 will feel right at home on netbooks as well as larger machines Really ? Like servers. workstations

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-26 Thread JB
Rahul Sundaram metherid at gmail.com writes: On 04/27/2011 01:58 AM, JB wrote: I have a proposal to GNOME project and to Red Hat/Fedora as well. Let's take the best from GNOME 2, its GUI, and put it on top of GNOME 3 infrastructure (without GNOME 3 Shell). They can release the new

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-26 Thread JB
. Well, I accepted your opinion ... or was that a fact ? You are annoying me. I do not like your tone and style. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-26 Thread JB
and Fedora do too :-) JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-25 Thread JB
exactly the elements I dislike most. Just like french women do when they watch and listen to their president Sarkozy. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Well, I've tried GNOME 3 now...

2011-04-25 Thread JB
admit that they possibly boxed themselves into a corner and now are not willing or able to reverse the course where things went wrong ? It is a Fedora problem, and it will be a Red Hat problem in due time ! JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: F15 and GNOME 3

2011-04-05 Thread JB
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 13:55 +, JB wrote: JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... The business desktop end users are already puzzled when they see you coming to work on roller skates and singing La La La I'm sorry to have

Re: F15 and GNOME 3

2011-04-05 Thread JB
. It can be done by anchoring back the new GNOME 3 menu system (minus silly Activities and Windows, Application sub-menu items) on a fully functional panel. Bingo. I trust they can do that with one finger, right ? :-) ... ... JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: F15 and GNOME 3

2011-04-05 Thread JB
Adam Williamson awilliam at redhat.com writes: ... I opened a can of worms on GNOME Shell dev list and have a hard time keeping up with the traffic, Let's see what comes out of there. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: F15 and GNOME 3

2011-04-04 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... The business desktop end users are already puzzled when they see you coming to work on roller skates and singing La La La :-) What happens when they see your find and catch me if you can GNOME 3 menus ? Either go back to GNOME-2-type menus, or *at least

F15 and GNOME 3

2011-04-03 Thread JB
- it is very costly in particular in terms of training and productivity of end users, who are often not techies. That's all for now. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F14 cpuspeed / ondemand broken?

2010-12-27 Thread JB
://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/385448 JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: FC14 -- Forcing graphical interface for install on lt; 512Mb

2010-11-16 Thread JB
Robert Moskowitz rgm at htt-consult.com writes: ... So is there an option to add to the boot line (I already add askmethod) to force the GI for the install? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: Shapsough Introduction

2010-11-13 Thread JB
, explore the links. I think Fedora devs expect you to make the first step (find the domain you are interested in and approach the relevant mentor). JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Virtually impossible to keep load under 0.5 on idle desktop with F14+kms

2010-11-09 Thread JB
and all was OK. Am I missing something here, or Fedora distro creators and maintainers are ? JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Virtually impossible to keep load under 0.5 on idle desktop with F14+kms

2010-11-09 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... Bugzilla: Bug 651717 JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: .xsession-errors

2010-11-07 Thread JB
Richard Ryniker ryniker at alum.mit.edu writes: ... Submitted: Bug 650715 - Request for enhancement - add visual indicators to NetworkManager applet in a panel. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: .xsession-errors

2010-11-06 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... I tested Richard's case. In console terminal: # chkconfig --list NetworkManager NetworkManager0:off 1:off 2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off # /etc/inet.d/NetworkManager stop $ startx nm-applet started; no nm-applet icon in a panel

Re: yum upgarding

2010-11-06 Thread JB
$ yum check $ yum check-update Then share with us the exact steps and outputs while trying to upgrade. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: yum upgarding

2010-11-06 Thread JB
upgraded system the old way, but next time do not rush, do some more debugging and be rewarded :-) JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: .xsession-errors

2010-11-05 Thread JB
-eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-5fb06bd0-0bb0-7ffb-45f1-d6edd65f3e03-eth0.lease -cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth0.conf eth0 jb 13058 0.0 0.5 175648 11712 ?Sl 06:01 0:00 nm-applet --sm-disable $ rpm -qf `which NetworkManager` NetworkManager-0.8.1-9.git20100831.fc14.i686

Re: .xsession-errors

2010-11-05 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... You can see what starts NetworkManager service and what starts GNOME applet nm-applet. one missing piece of GNOME startup mechanisms: System-Preferences-Startup Applications -- Network Manager (nm-applet) JB -- test mailing list test

Re: Mentor....

2010-11-03 Thread JB
/Mentors Read it carefully, explore the links. I think Fedora devs expect you to make the first step (find the domain you are interested in and approach the relevant mentor). JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: how to debug NetworkManager ?

2010-10-13 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... Hi, We want a fresh copy of data when NM works its way. Please reboot your machine back to desktop. Do not change any data/configuration. Give me full/unedited output of: # find /etc -iname *dhclient*conf* # cat /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/ifcfg

Re: how to debug NetworkManager ?

2010-10-13 Thread JB
cornel panceac cpanceac at gmail.com writes: hi JB,unfortunately, to report all the things above, i have to reboot in windows 7, or run dhclient eth0, which of this is worse? Run dhclient eth0 (which you said sets routes correctly up). After that you can give me a display of: dhclient.leases

Re: how to debug NetworkManager ?

2010-10-13 Thread JB
-servers 127.0.0.1,xx.yyy.zz.1,xx.yyy.zz.2; option dhcp-server-identifier xx.yyy.zz.65; option broadcast-address xx.yyy.zz.95; option domain-name somedomain.com; renew 3 2010/10/13 16:56:56; rebind 4 2010/10/14 02:29:30; expire 4 2010/10/14 05:29:30; } JB -- test mailing list test

Re: how to debug NetworkManager ?

2010-10-13 Thread JB
or describe it in any way possible what's in there ? Btw, you have a sample of dhcpd.conf here on F14: $ cat /usr/share/doc/dhcp-4.2.0/dhcpd.conf.sample JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: how to debug NetworkManager ?

2010-10-13 Thread JB
that dhclient-*.conf file. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: how to debug NetworkManager ?

2010-10-13 Thread JB
panceac*how to debug NetworkManager ? You can pass to us the Bugzilla# here so we can follow it as well. Thanks for cooperating orderly with me :-) JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Part of characters missing

2010-10-12 Thread JB
page: http://konsole.kde.org/bugs.php The bug is pretty well documented (include your findings about Alt+Fn console, xterm, GNOME terminal, Konsole for comparison). JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: how to debug NetworkManager ?

2010-10-11 Thread JB
-d6edd65f3e03-eth0.lease # route -n Kernel IP routing table ... # cat /etc/resolv.conf ... # cat /etc/hosts ... $ man dhclient.conf $ man dhcp-options You should have enuf to think about. JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Part of characters missing

2010-10-11 Thread JB
Jim Bevier jim at jbsys.com writes: ... Hi, can you tell us to which displays it applies, e.g. a console terminal, xterm, KDE terminal, etc ? JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Part of characters missing

2010-10-11 Thread JB
JB jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... I would advise you to do these from a live-cd: $ ls /some_mount/media $ stat /some_mount/media JB -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test