Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

2013-09-24 Thread Jan Wildeboer
That said, I regret having to tell you that your plan is dumb, naive, and far from being workable. Ralf That said, I regret having to tell you that insulting the OP instead of pointing out relevant arguments is dumb, naive and far from being helpful. ;-) Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer

Re: Moving away from reporting to RH bugzilla and adopting pure upstream reporting mantra.

2013-09-23 Thread Jan Wildeboer
How will you track blocker bugs? How can we see a global view of all open bugs? Aggregate from X upstream bug report systems? Which not all are Bugzilla? How can we track critical bugs? Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red

Re: Canon Bluetooth Calculator Mouse

2012-05-21 Thread Jan Wildeboer
There's no need to post special feedback about it. Isn't the special feedback here that the shell accepts the input but thunderbird does not? And isn't that a potential bug/ missing quirk? Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89

Re: No way to add a new app launcher from Gnome 3.x GUI?

2012-04-18 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 18.04.2012 07:46, Fernando Cassia wrote: Am I missing something obvious? Run program, right-click entry in sidebar, click Add to Favorites, perhaps? Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH |

Re: Fedora ARM QA testing

2012-03-23 Thread Jan Wildeboer
+infinity :-) -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax:+49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630 Grasbrunn

Re: Cryptsetup Related Issue

2011-09-21 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Bugzilla? More details? Exactly what is broken how? Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax:+49 (0)89 205071-111

Re: F16 slowness

2011-09-05 Thread Jan Wildeboer
When checking - please note where time is used. Pay special attention to iowait. Maybe some locking is causing this? Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II,

Re: setting up ssh

2011-08-26 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Does it put the correct rules in iptable.safe? Might be a systemd problem of restarting with the new rules. Does it work after a reboot? Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33

Re: F16: what is smfpd?

2011-08-19 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Samsung printer driver. Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax:+49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630

Re: Any hope for system-config-services ?

2011-07-21 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 07/21/2011 11:26 AM, agraham wrote: Replying here only once, this is not content for test@ IMHO I disagree with the propaganda pumped out by RH et al about Fedora being a only test bed for RHEL. I don't know who is telling that, but people at Red Hat for sure do not. We think of Fedora as

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-31 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 05/31/2011 08:11 PM, drago01 wrote: A screensaver isn't the right tool for this ... there are lots of dedicated apps for viewing family pictures. Some of my machines (servers) are connnected via KVM to a single screen. I like to see at one glance if they are doing sth (screensaver) or not.

Re: sha256sum for Fedora-15-Beta-i386-DVD.iso

2011-04-26 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 04/26/2011 03:46 PM, Trey Sizemore wrote: On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 09:16 -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote: Can someone provide or point me to the sha256sum for Fedora-15-Beta-i386-DVD.iso? I downloaded the ISO from https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify but that site only appears to have sha256sums

Re: gnome 3 delayed

2011-04-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 04/01/2011 11:53 AM, fsos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011 (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html) The fact that thois delay was announced on April 1st didn't make you think? ;-) Jan -- Jan H

Re: gnome 3 delayed

2011-04-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 04/01/2011 12:07 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/4/1 mike cloakedmike.cloa...@gmail.com: 2011/4/1 Michał Piotrowskimkkp...@gmail.com: Gnome release team has rescheduled gnome 3 for September 2011 (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-rescheduled.html) The fact that

Re: gnome 3 delayed

2011-04-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 04/01/2011 12:37 PM, bsfmig wrote: Distribution Release: Slackware Linux 1.0 http://distrowatch.com/centrify.php6607! *via distrowatch http://www.geforce.com/#/News/articles/voodoo-revived Yeah! Voodoo revived! Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source Affairs |

Re: Bugzappers EOL process and abrt bug reporters being flagged with needinfo before bugs are closed?

2010-12-06 Thread Jan Wildeboer
A mantainer who doesn't care about the bugs in his package may be everything - but not a maintainer. It is that simple. Maintaining a package means caring, not doing sth once in a while. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-12-02 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 12/02/2010 08:39 AM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 07:54 -0500, Jan Wildeboer wrote: Will try this evening and report here! BTW - are you using nouveau or (a)kmod-nvidia? Jan Does sound work with my latest kernel? Nope. See attached dmesg for clues (I cannot see sth obvious

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-27 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Will try this evening and report here! BTW - are you using nouveau or (a)kmod-nvidia? Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-17 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 11/16/2010 08:36 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: OK, I've build a new kernel with the added quirk, and did a quick test. I now get sound from the speakers :-). Alsamixer now shows front speakers. NACK, no sound on my MBA3 11.6 ... Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer| EMEA Open Source

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-17 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Kinda problematic with non-working nouveau and broken suspend/resume due to vesafb ... Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-16 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 11/15/2010 12:34 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Now Ben is working on the issue screaming louder does not help and please refrain from mentioning any kind of works or not works functionality with proprietary drivers it does not do any good in fact it just confuses things. NoProb, I

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-16 Thread Jan Wildeboer
I have added my comments to the BZ on applesmc. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-16 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 11/16/2010 05:59 PM, Jurgen Kramer wrote: I guess this is no longer necessary as the patch seems to be in rawhide :-). Very nice to see this is being picked up so quick. Correct :-) /me is almost happy with Fedora on MBA3. Now the nouveau part esp suspend/resume needs a fix. Did you also

WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-15 Thread Jan Wildeboer
All, BZ #651019 [1] contains a patch that would make the new Macbook Air a lot more useable with Fedora - how can I raise this BZ to be included into updates? BZ #650949 [2] contains hopefully enough info for someone to start digging why nouveau fails on new MBA (most evil problem is that

Re: WRT MacBook Air and Fedora

2010-11-15 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Hi Jurgen! Would very much appreciate to test your version of applesmc. Could you add a link to a place to download either here or in the BZ? Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: rawhide livecd desktop???

2010-11-11 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Care to explain what fails when using rawhide? From where did you upgrade? Fedora 14? Do you have a smolt profile of your hardware? Any proprietary drivers likne nvidia? A bit more input gives a lot of output ;-) Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: rawhide livecd desktop???

2010-11-11 Thread Jan Wildeboer
ACK. F14 is bleeding edge enough for me ATM, especially on my new Macbook air (yep, opened bugzillas on the obvious stuff). Untill basic stuff works (suspend does, resume doesn't ;-) I will stay away from rawhide. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Fedora 14 x86_64 on new Macbook AIR - mostly success

2010-11-05 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Just a short report: - Dualboot setup with rEFIt - Default install with nomodeset to avoid broken graphics (seems nv driver doesn't like the M320 in the MBA) - Using USB Ethernet adaptor to have network - added rpmfusion - Installed kmod-wl (for the wireless card) - Installed kmod-nvidia - ran

NetworkManager crash when sharing network on F14 32bit

2010-11-02 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Could someone verify before I BZ this one? - create new wireless network to share my connection - use WPA2 PSK - NM asks for PW - NM creates network, asks again for PW - ABRT reports crash in NM, sharing doesn't work On Aspire One from Asus. Jan -- test mailing list

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
(Sorry for top-posting, blame blackberry and me) IMHO - if preupgrade doesn't work for those running F13 - it would be a blocker for F14 release IMHO. Jan - Original Message - From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: For testers of Fedora

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
And as a closing one for OT stuff - the correct use of reply-to is unfortunately optional in the RFC. I knew all of this hence my excuse. Still noone has reacted to the point I raised. But as at least one person on this list values thraed-completeness over content, I gather it is better to

Re: Devices (was Re: Preupgrade change?)

2010-11-01 Thread Jan Wildeboer
Oops. I meant correct use of the refers-to header. Thread completeness relying *only* on refers-to is based on an incorrect assumption that refers-to is compulsory and not optional. IMHO. Jan -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Fedora 13/14 and new Macbook Air - anyone tried?

2010-10-28 Thread Jan Wildeboer
All, the new Macbook Air and Fedora - has anyone tried it already? From the specs I see the usual problems: - Nvidia GeForce 320M - Airport Extreme WLAN - DisplayPort I would like to hear if s/o as Fedora up and running on it ... Any pointers appreciated Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer

Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon

2010-09-15 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 09/15/2010 03:35 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: I think we all realize that the timing was exceedingly bad on this. I think we should try to distill some lessons from this for how we approach 'invasive' features in the future. If the vore was as close as it was in this case, it begs the

Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-07 Thread Jan Wildeboer
On 09/07/2010 02:32 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: It isn't. We can't possibly guarantee suspend/resume will work on all laptops in anything like a reasonable timeframe. if we set this as a release criterion, we would likely never release. So we don't. Understood. It is however a royal PITA ;-)

Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-05 Thread Jan Wildeboer
In my case (F13, x86_64 on a Lenovo X200) the .34 kernel made suspend fail. On laptops I think working suspend/resume should be blocker for release. It worked before, hence it is a regression. Note that I am not running rawhide. Just plain F13 with its support promise. Suspend/Resume failing

Re: Some or all of your votes have been removed

2010-09-02 Thread Jan Wildeboer
IMHO it is an unfortunate decision. But I understand the reasoning. Take a look at how google handles this for android. Very simple solution which would adapt to our bugzilla like this: - once you are logged in to Bugzilla, you can star a bug. - you can star/unstar at any time - so you have as

Re: Mouse button stops working?

2010-07-15 Thread Jan Wildeboer
FYI - my Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t has a synaptics pad where the mouse buttons simply not work under F13 64bit. Dunno why, will file BZ tmrw. Jan - Original Message - From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org To: For testers of Fedora development