Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:54:26 +0100 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Issue was with missing TPM modules! One solution would be to disable TPM in EFI/BIOS and other to install missing kernel-modules-extra package. Now resume finally works! Just for closure, I'll

Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:33:51 -0500 Jared K. Smith jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote: I had the same problem with mine (X1 Carbon second generation) until I updated the UEFI firmware on it. Since updating that, I haven't had any problems with suspend or resume. Which version of the firmware are

Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 09:17:25 -0500 Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: I'm pretty well mystified, but, given my general lack of skills in this part of the system, that's not surprising. My next step, perhaps, is to start disabling boot-time unit files until I find the one that makes

Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Just FYI, I tried out the F21 beta image in the vain hope that my resume problems would have magically gone away. No such luck. In case anybody is interested, here is what (little) I know... - Resume works great under F20. - Under F21, suspend seems to work fine, but there is no response to

Re: Resume still broken on Thinkpad X1 Carbon

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 10:48:00 -0800 Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Check the modules loaded in working and non-working cases? Should have mentioned...I did that. About the only promising sounding discrepancy was ec_sys, but loading it didn't change anything. Of course, I

Re: Emacs (was: Some F21 Alpha impressions)

2014-10-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:02:15 +0200 drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have a screenshot of the wrong looking emacs? Attached, finally. Took me a while to get back to a nominally working system after the scaling experiment - had to go to backups in the end. Whatever gnome-tweak-tool tweaks

Some F21 Alpha impressions

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So, feeling like life has kind of sucked recently, I've been compensating by buying toys. One of those is a shiny new Thinkpad X1 Carbon laptop. The first thing I installed on it was the F21 Workstation alpha; here's a few impressions... - The main thing is that resume does not work in F21.

Re: Emacs (was: Some F21 Alpha impressions)

2014-10-04 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 15:23:30 -0400 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: The scaling factor I talking about is an integer it cannot go to 0.5 ... I am currently not in front of a F21 system so not sure how exactly it is labled in tweak tool but it should be there. I think the

Weird rawhide desktop behavior

2012-03-24 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Here's a strange pathology that just bit me for the first time in a while, though I've seen it before. I'm not sure where to file a bug on this one... In short: I'll be working away, minding my own business, when the desktop goes completely dead - no response to any key or mouse events. That

Re: Weird rawhide desktop behavior

2012-03-24 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:23:26 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Jonathan, Chuck - if you try holding down a key that ought to do something for half a second instead of just pressing it, does it work? I'll try that next time the problem hits. I don't have any real way to provoke

Re: Emacs yank behavior change

2012-03-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Well, it only took me a month and a half to get around to figuring this out. I just bet I'm not going to be the only one to ask this question once this version of Emacs spreads more widely, so it's worth posting the solution. On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 10:47:22 -0700 Stephen John Smoogen

Re: rawhide report: 20120205 changes

2012-02-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sun, 5 Feb 2012 17:59:38 +0100 Harald Hoyer harald.ho...@gmail.com wrote: Running Transaction Check ERROR You need to update rpm to handle: rpmlib(X-CheckUnifiedSystemdir) is needed by filesystem-3-2.fc17.i686 RPM needs to be updated I have the lastest rpm build for rawhide

Emacs yank behavior change

2012-02-01 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I finally got around to updating the Rawhide system after my last round of travel. When yum informed me that there were 1300 packages to update, I got a little worried. But things actually mostly work, modulo a suspend problem that I want to investigate further when time allows. One thing

Grub - grub2?

2011-10-15 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So today yum wants to put grub2 onto my rawhide system, nudging grub out of the way in the process. This makes me nervous. Last time I read about this, it wasn't a straightforward update from one to the other. If that has changed, could somebody please give me a warm fuzzy feeling that allowing

Still singing the fallback mode blues

2011-10-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So the roadblock that kept {cl,m}utter off my Rawhide box cleared and I figured I could now happily to back to swearing at gnome-shell. Alas, no such luck. Something went wrong still; for an added bonus, the login screen is now only willing to give me a choice of sessions the first time around.

Re: Still singing the fallback mode blues

2011-10-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:40:03 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: So, what's left to determine is whether all that goomph above is just telepathy pooping its pants, or whether that's actually what's causing Shell to crash (or quit). Do you have any abrt crash reports for

Good thing I build my own kernels

2011-09-29 Thread Jonathan Corbet
As I was booting my system after today's Rawhide update, I noticed that there were no Fedora kernels on offer at all. It seems like, once again, grubby is going weird and refusing to add lines for new kernels to grub.conf as they are installed. Is this, perhaps, a subtle hint that I should

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-23 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:50:24 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: The old focus issue was due to a side-effect of a work-around for https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653061 which had caused Claws Mail to start minimized. That bug is still not fixed in GNOME Shell, but

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-23 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:09:43 +0100 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Looks more like you need gnome-shell 3.1.92 amd clutter-gst-1.3.14-2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13111 They're both in the update, you might want to try another mirror, or yum clean all

Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
There's something about that oh no something went wrong screen that just makes it clear that you're not going to have as good a day as you'd hoped for. Now that I've finished re-educating the window manager about my peculiarities (yes, I do like more than one workspace, thank you), here's a few

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, it could be much more productive if you also evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 development. Sigh. I've been running Rawhide for a very long time. As of the last year or so, though, almost

Re: bluez and hci's which initially come up as hid (was Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update)

2011-09-07 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 19:50:53 +0200 Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com wrote: Jonathan, can you give bluez-4.96-3.fc17 a spin? It should fix your mouse + keyboard issue. Will do, but not before the weekend - I forgot to bring the desktop system to LPC :) Thanks for addressing this, jon --

Re: bluez and hci's which initially come up as hid (was Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update)

2011-09-02 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:18:31 +0200 Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com wrote: Which is in essence the problem you are seeing here Jonathan, after my bluez update, your bluetooth dongle is actually being out into HCI mode, so that it can for example also be used to sync with your phone, use a

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-09-01 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:21:13 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Obvious suspects there - gnome-bluetooth and udev for the BT keyboard issue, claws-mail itself for the claws update. I don't think Bluetooth itself should come into play at all; the device simply looks like a

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-09-01 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:21:13 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Obvious suspects there - gnome-bluetooth and udev for the BT keyboard issue, None of the above, as it turns out. These guys: bluez-libs-4.96-2.fc17.x86_64 bluez-4.96-2.fc17.x86_64 break my

Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So, I thought...LWN writing is almost done for the day, why not do an update and see what happens? What happened: - My Logitech bluetooth keyboard, which has Just Worked for years, doesn't work anymore. Grub still sees it fine, but the running system does not. Sometimes unplugging and

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:44 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: it would probably help to know what *was* in the update set. OK, from yum.log: Aug 31 07:17:02 Updated: atk-2.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 Aug 31 07:17:03 Updated: gtk3-3.1.12-1.fc16.x86_64 Aug 31 07:17:07 Updated:

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:08:52 -0400 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: Error: Protected multilib versions: gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 I have no idea what these errors mean or how to fix them. Any advice would be appreciated.

Re: F16 Alpha ATI Radeon issues?

2011-08-10 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:00:34 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Not always, but at random times. Also: - perceived lag (compared with F15) - areas of the screen not getting refreshed in time, staying blank until I touch the window or move a GTK slider, e.g. individual

Oh no, something went wrong!

2011-07-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Seeing the black screen of death with $SUBJECT is becoming an increasingly common part of my rawhide experience; today's update brought it back again. Would it really be too hard for it to way *what* went wrong? I did manage to find an error in .xsession-errors - but only, of course, if I looked

Re: Oh no, something went wrong!

2011-07-05 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 09:11:00 -0700 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: You need Mutter 3.1.3.1 (not 3.1.3). 3.1.3 mistakenly bumped that namespace. Indeed, that was the problem. All is happy now, thanks! jon -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Grubby templates [was Somebody hosed grub.conf]

2011-05-16 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 13 May 2011 08:43:30 -0600 Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: I watched closely as today's kernel update came through: Installing : kernel-2.6.39-0.rc7.git3.0.fc16.x86_64 19/37 grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template In case

Re: Somebody hosed grub.conf

2011-05-13 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 12 May 2011 13:13:00 -0500 Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:52, Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: So I went to boot my rawhide system You're sending this question to the wrong list. This list is for people testing the F15 release so

Re: Grubby templates [was Somebody hosed grub.conf]

2011-05-13 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 12 May 2011 18:47:56 + Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Anywho it most likely was caused by a post-install script failure. I watched closely as today's kernel update came through: Installing : kernel-2.6.39-0.rc7.git3.0.fc16.x86_64 19/37

Somebody hosed grub.conf

2011-05-12 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I went to boot my rawhide system the other day, only to notice that none of the usual fedora kernel options were there. I've long since had my own kernels there, of course, and those have not been touched - but somebody cleared out all of the Fedora options from grub.conf. Am I the only one

Fallback mode further hosed?

2011-04-22 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Up until now, the fallback mode has preserved (to an approximation) my older panel setup - a single panel, not full width, on the bottom. Today all that's gone; now I have two panels. My launchers are gone, as is a fair amount of my vertical screen space. Is this deliberate? If so, why? It

claws-mail hosed in today's Rawhide

2011-03-29 Thread Jonathan Corbet
[Repeat after me: never jump into daily rawhide updates in the hope that they'll fix the things that broke yesterday] What broke today is claws-mail. It reads mail just fine, and will happily let you put time into composing messages, but it is totally unable to send them. Clicks

Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I just updated my Rawhide system. Items noticed in the first few minutes: - Blinking cursors are on everything and cannot be turned off. I *hate* blinking cursors. They make me Grumpy. - Lots of icons are missing. The system settings dialog is now mostly text. - Setting the

Re: Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 12:42:43 -0500 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: So I just updated my Rawhide system. Items noticed in the first few minutes: Rawhide or branched? Rawhide. jon -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:03:38 + Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: - Blinking cursors are on everything and cannot be turned off. I *hate* blinking cursors. They make me Grumpy. You should be able to disable that with gconf-editor/gsettings

Re: Today's GNOME pathologies

2011-03-28 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 21:59:58 + Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Note it's not uncommon for reporters to accidently continue to stay on the rawhide train instead of disabling rawhide and enable updates-testing when it get's branched. If you need a usable system I

Re: GNOME Tweak Tool now ready for testing

2011-03-25 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:48:08 +0100 Michel Alexandre Salim sali...@fedoraproject.org wrote: For those wanting to more easily tweak their GNOME 3 desktop (e.g. font adjustment), GNOME Tweak Tool should now be in your updates-testing.

Re: GNOME Tweak Tool now ready for testing

2011-03-25 Thread Jonathan Corbet
again and that makes me happy :) Thanks, jon Jonathan Corbet / LWN.net / cor...@lwn.net -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So I'm still trying to find my way into this gnome-shell 3D world. In the process, I'm running into display corruption on my Intel Q35-based system. I'd like to try to track it down; in particular, I'd like to figure out if the problem exists in the mainline kernel so I can report it right to

Re: On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:24:43 -0500 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: So I'm mystified. Any ideas? Might there be some magic in the Fedora initrd that I'm missing (I've never used initrd on my systems)? An easy test would be to actually build one for your test kernel. make install

Re: [solved] On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:45:29 -0700 Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote: Something tells me that this difference probably has some bearing on my little problem. Found it. The root cause is that I was unable to open /dev/dri/card0. In the end, every system management problem in existence

Re: [solved] On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:25:24 -0600 Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote: Actually, it's probably somehow related to ACL's which are supposed to automatically be append to the device node in question on ConsoleKit activation of the user session: [jclinton@jclinton-laptop ~]$ getfacl

Re: [solved] On making a proper kernel for gnome-shell

2011-03-11 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:02:52 -0500 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: Nope, I do have ACLs built into my kernel. You need the XATTR options, as well as ACL ones. I have that too, the problem would appear to be elsewhere. Thanks, jon -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: gnome-shell performance (was gnome-applets and rawhide updates)

2011-02-20 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:56:34 +0100 drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: OK, can you please try this scratch build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2851093 ? No change with that installed. And also please file a bug it makes tracking it easier than here. Done:

gnome-shell performance (was gnome-applets and rawhide updates)

2011-02-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
, but still... A quick look shows mutter running flat-out most of the time. I'm running fairly standard onboard Intel graphics; it all works beautifully under metacity. Is gnome-shell just too cool for my hardware, or is there something else going on? Thanks, jon Jonathan Corbet / LWN.net / cor

Re: gnome-shell performance (was gnome-applets and rawhide updates)

2011-02-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:32:36 +0100 drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: Please name your hardware onboard intel is too vague. According to X: [12.376] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) Q35 [12.376] (--) intel(0): Chipset: Q35 lspci sees it as: VGA compatible

gnome-applets and rawhide updates

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So, it's been a while since I've been able to update my rawhide desktop and see what breaks - long enough that I've forgotten the pain and want to feel it again. The blocking factor should be familiar to many: Error: Package: 1:gnome-applets-2.32.0-3.fc15.x86_64 (@rawhide) Requires: