Re: Anyone else using Open vSwitch on F18?

2012-12-31 Thread Matej Cepl
On 31/12/12 00:43, Ian Pilcher wrote: > I'm trying to stay with what's in stable, so I haven't tried anything > later than -66. I don't see anything in the changelog to indicate that > any openvswitch-related changes went in in -67 or -68. If you are on this list, then I guess you would be expect

Re: crontab shutdown as (regular user or root su-) not working

2012-11-13 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2012-11-13, 09:35 GMT, Frank Murphy wrote: > This is all I use in my crontab: > 00 01 * * * poweroff Relying on $PATH being what you expect it to be in crontab is highly dangerous (see crontab(5) on details) ... I generally don’t trust $PATH I don’t see in crontab itself, or in this case, jus

Re: Floppies available

2012-11-12 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2012-11-11, 10:51 GMT, Fernando Cassia wrote: > I am sure someone else must have punch cards too Somebody from IBM in devillish collaboration with a Red Hat presales people (I think the dark hand of Jan Wildeboer has been involved) made System Z boot RHEL-5 from punch cards ... it was just pl

Upstream first? [Was: Re: The future of how to debug pages]

2012-09-26 Thread Matej Cepl
On 26/09/12 01:21, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: If we send reporters upstream to read documents we can just as well send them by the same method to upstream bugzilla's to file reports. Yes, I think it could be preferred way for some bugs and some components (i.e., I would suggest much more a

Re: F17 FAIL - long live F16

2012-06-05 Thread Matej Cepl
On 02/06/12 01:53, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Overnight the local net died and I decided to revert to the previously installed F16. Please, file a proper bug at https://bugzilla.redhat.com with all relevant information (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=bug-writing.html). Tha

Re: which package to install to get javac?

2012-05-07 Thread Matej Cepl
On 7.5.2012 05:47, Antonio Olivares wrote: sorry for asking an elementary question, but I have iced-tea installed, but javac is not present, I should do a # yum whatprovides javac but I thought that it should have been already present, something like java-openjdk or similar, which is the packag

Re: Weird Firefox performance issue

2012-05-03 Thread Matej Cepl
On 3.5.2012 00:31, Jonathan Kamens wrote: Frequent hangs for anywhere from a second to 30 seconds. Lack of responsiveness to key and button presses. Delays from when I clicked a scroll bar and dragged it to when the window actually scrolled. Frequent long delays from when an external app tried to

Re: adobe flash crashes in firefox, not in konqueror

2012-04-28 Thread Matej Cepl
On 28.4.2012 06:15, Peter Gueckel wrote: My system is up-to-date with updates-testing. Since about 2-3 days, coinciding with the release of firefox 12, I think, the adobe flash plugin crashes in firefox, but it runs in konqueror, but only this site appears to be affected: Adobe now supports bo

Re: Where to file a RFE for "Add Remove programs" ?

2012-04-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 22.4.2012 19:52, Fernando Cassia wrote: Where can I file such a Request for Enhancement? Is "Add/Remove programs" exclusively a Fedora thing, or upstream Gnome?. TIA https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=gnome-packagekit But please check first that it is not a duplicate of already f

Re: $PYTHONPATH

2012-04-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 22.4.2012 06:44, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: The PYTHONPATH environment variable is what you probably want for instance in .bashrc: export PYTHONPATH=/home/badger/my/python/directory Or just in belts-and-suspenders style export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:$HOME/my/python/directory Matěj -- test ma

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 17.4.2012 23:55, Fernando Cassia wrote: So you mean it'd be technically possible to have a running Scribes in current Fedora? Sure, what happens when you try to rebuilt http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/tmp/scribes-0.4-0.bzr20120417r1052.3.el7.src.rpm ? Install all packages from https://fed

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 17.4.2012 20:53, Fernando Cassia wrote: It seems like the author needs to do a major rewrite. :-( too bad because I really liked scribes. a) it is not that bad on Fedora (which I don't have now), where all Gnome2 packages are still maintained, b) I am in the email conversation with the upst

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-17 Thread Matej Cepl
On 16.4.2012 16:19, Matej Cepl wrote: Sorry, I was busy with some other work so I am now only ploughing through fedora.testers ... scribes.src.rpm is completely unmaintained, I have in a burst of optimism fixed it work with RHEL-6, but I don't use it on day-to-day basis anymore. If anybody

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-16 Thread Matej Cepl
On 13.4.2012 17:58, Horst H. von Brand wrote: I find it strange that there is a EPEL package that isn't also available for Fedora proper. Isn't that a requirement for EPEL? It is not a proper package maintained in EPEL (or elsewhere). Just my build of scribes for RHEL-6, hosted on fedorapeople

Re: It must be said: the photo import app in F17 is the most intrusive annoying piece of sw I've seen

2012-04-16 Thread Matej Cepl
On 14.4.2012 15:14, Fernando Cassia wrote: I find the photo import app in Fedora 17 the most intrusive, annoying piece of software I've seen in a long, long time. It certainly must be said ... but not here. bugzilla.redhat.com is the proper space to relieve your frustration. Please, if you a

Re: How to install some software that requires Python 2.6 and rejects 2.7?

2012-04-16 Thread Matej Cepl
On 12.4.2012 23:43, Fernando Cassia wrote: I think it'd be nice if you could do a small txt explaining what you had to change, and then forward it to Matej, the person doing the builds at the fedorapeople url mentioned on the OP. I did a Google search: Matej Cepl Sorry, I was busy with

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2012-04-12 Thread Matej Cepl
On 10.4.2012 20:52, patrick korsnick wrote: Just wanted to drop a quick note to introduce myself as a triage noob. I've been using fedora as my primary OS for a couple years now but have been using linux for about ten years and Unixes like Solaris & IRIX since the early 90s. Feel free to ping m

Re: New BugZapper Introduction.

2012-01-10 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 10.1.2012 14:52, Mario Santagiuliana napsal(a): I am giving my contribution to Fedora Project as translator, as packagers maintainer and also as Italian ambassador (from a few day). For more info about me you can check my wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Marionline I want to hel

Re: System Hangs when Windows Key and Tab pressed Simultaneously

2011-12-11 Thread Matej Cepl
On 11.12.2011 02:43, David wrote: > First suggestion. Turn *off* the html. > > Second suggestion. Report your question again. Please, don't do this ... by being snobbish about plain text messages (BTW, completely uselessly, you also have Thunderbird, so you can read the parent message just fine

Re: Introduction

2011-12-06 Thread Matej Cepl
On 6.12.2011 10:30, Pasche Sébastien wrote: > I'm very glad to join at Fedora Bug Zappers Team. I have working a > lot with Fedora and Red Hat Linux / Centos since some years ago (7-8 > years). I already contributed to the project by writing patchs, > giving support, helping company/school/people

Re: Fwd: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-11-20 Thread Matej Cepl
On 19.11.2011 23:57, Narek Babadjanyan wrote: > Hello, my name is Narek Babadjanyan and I would like to contribute to > Fedora Project after a long time of using Fedora as my primary OS, and I > would be very happy if I could have the opportunity to triage bugs in > Fedora. Feel free to ping me or

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-11-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 4.11.2011 13:19, Matthew Savage napsal(a): > I just joined the triagers group and I would like to know where I can > help out. Feel free to ping me on #fedora-bugzappers anytime (I am usually around CET business hours and in the evening). We also maintain (well, more or less maintain) https

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-11-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.11.2011 20:17, Darren LaChausse napsal(a): > Actually, I would be interested in packaging as well. Like I said, I > do not have a lot of free time, but packaging sounds like it'd be fun. Take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers and let me know

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-11-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.11.2011 17:11, Darren LaChausse napsal(a): > I am looking forward to joining the Fedora Bug Zappers Team. > I know quite a few programming languages as well. I am familiar with > C, C++, Java, Python, Ruby, Tcl/Tk, Javascript, Perl, Pascal, Shell > Scripting, Erlang, and C#. > > I think bug

Re: firefox no more plays m3u radio streams

2011-11-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.11.2011 07:42, Joachim Backes napsal(a): > Firefox's error console says: > > Error: gBrowser.addProgressListener was called with a second argument, > which is not supported. See bug 608628. > Source File: chrome://browser/content/tabbrowser.xml > Line: 1862 > > This happens even if all FF ext

Re: Bugzilla-Triage-Scripts 1.4.10 not working in firefox 7.0.1

2011-10-18 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 18.10.2011 16:02, Matej Cepl napsal(a): > Dne 17.10.2011 21:25, Mohan R napsal(a): >> Is anyone using Bugzilla-Triage-Scripts plugin in f15. I'm not able to >> see NEEDINFO buttons appearing near 'Status'. > > Yes, I will have to revert CachedRequest merge.

Re: Bugzilla-Triage-Scripts 1.4.10 not working in firefox 7.0.1

2011-10-18 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 17.10.2011 21:25, Mohan R napsal(a): > Is anyone using Bugzilla-Triage-Scripts plugin in f15. I'm not able to > see NEEDINFO buttons appearing near 'Status'. Yes, I will have to revert CachedRequest merge. Tonight. Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: http

Re: Hello world!

2011-10-15 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 14.10.2011 20:34, Nicolas Corrarello napsal(a): > My name is Nicolas, I'm 26 years old and live at Buenos Aires, > Argentina. I started with Linux 12 years ago... and I have been around > it ever since. Welcome Nicolas Feel free to ping me on #fedora-bugzappers anytime (I am usually around C

Re: /etc/default/grub is supposed to be where I put changes, right?

2011-10-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 14.10.2011 01:45, Tom Horsley napsal(a): > Every time I get a new grub2 update, it resets the > /etc/default/grub file, wiping out all my customizations, Why in the world it is /etc/default (which is coming from the Debian world) and not /etc/sysconfig? Matěj -- test mailing list test@list

Re: Can't login via GDM anyomre: Re: Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2011-09-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 25.9.2011 23:21, Matthias Clasen napsal(a): > I need some information on what is hanging where, then. On my system, -2 > 100% fixed a very reproducible hang after hitting Enter in the password > entry. For me at-spi2-atk.x86_64 2.1.92-2.fc16 was a pure disaster. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho

Re: Remove a package from critpath ?

2011-09-16 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 15.9.2011 21:38, Adam Jackson napsal(a): >> If someone wants to send me a list, I'd be happy to do the comps edit. >> (I would assume ati, evdev, fbdev, intel, nouveau, synaptics, vesa.) > > That list sounds just fine to me. qxl? Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: Sound problems in F16 after the most recent updates

2011-09-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 14.9.2011 09:57, Joachim Backes napsal(a): > Having sound problems after the todays updates: Playing some sound stops > after 1-2 secs, and the sound control symbol in the gnome-shell title > bar disappers and appears all 7 secs. You have kernel 3.1.0-0.rc5.git0.0.fc16, right? Downgrade to the

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-09-14 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 14.9.2011 03:10, Dennis Panagiotopoulos napsal(a):> > My name is Dennis Panagiotopoulos.I am 20 years old and live at Patras > Greece. > > So thanks a lot for some people who accepted me at Fedora project. > > At my signature I'm sending my contacts fell free if anyone want to > contact me. F

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-09-07 Thread Matej Cepl
On 7.9.2011 19:01, Anand Nande wrote: > Glad to know you all. I am happy to be a part of the Fedora Community > and pursue my role as a BuZapper. Fancy name :) but enthusiastically > stands out. > Regarding my introduction: > I am Anand, Currently I work at RedHat. I have completed my Bachelors in

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-09-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.9.2011 07:33, Gerard Snitselaar napsal(a): > My day job has been working with Unix since 2000 and mostly Linux since 2004, > performing fault analysis of kernel dumps or determining if bugs are in our > code or somewhere else in Red Hat, and fixing bugs in our code. So I spend a > fair amount

Re: services and systemd in F16

2011-08-31 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 31.8.2011 18:39, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > systemd is already smart enough, but the services themselves have to be > written with support, and sometimes the underlying daemons need slight > tweaking to support socket activation. Just a bit of self-promotion. Bitlbee in Fedora has socket act

Re: Should I make a tracking bug in fedora for problem reported upstream?

2011-08-28 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 28.8.2011 16:43, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): > I reported this upstream, since that seems to be a better place to get > attention for development kernel bugs, than Fedora's tracker. However, > if this should be considered a beta blocker, then I should probably also > make a Fedora bug entry so t

Re: New BugZapper Introduction.

2011-08-04 Thread Matej Cepl
On 5.8.2011 00:12, Dennis Appelon Nielsen wrote: > Hi All You Bug Zappers > My name is Dennis Appelon Nielsen AKA: *AppelonD* . I'm happy to apply > for membership of the BugZapper Fedora group. Feel free to ping me on #fedora-bugzappers anytime (I am usually around CET business hours and in the

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-07-24 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 24.7.2011 08:29, David Boling napsal(a): > My name is David Boling, my IRC nick is pcreader, and I've been > tinkering with linux and Fedora off and on for 20+ years. Currently, I'm > a college student in Oklahoma working on a BS in Computer Science. My > other day job is a student Help Desk Su

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-07-19 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 18.7.2011 07:51, Sudhir Dharanendraiah napsal(a): > My name is Sudhir and I'm from India (GMT +5:30). Being in the Quality > team for over 5 years, dealing with bugs has become part of my IT career > life. I was associated with data center support in the early part of my > career. I have vas

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-07-11 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 6.7.2011 22:51, Roman Spirgi napsal(a): > I started recently as German team coordinator and because of that I want > to be able to triage bugs. Firstly, I want to work on localization bugs, > and maybe dig deeper after a while ... I'm living in Switzerland and > work as a Customer Support Engin

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-05-30 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 29.5.2011 06:40, Mathieu Bouffard napsal(a): > Well that was alot to say "I like this and I want to contribute and > learn more!" > > I read the wiki pages in a bit of a glance and I'll read them again. As > for help getting started, maybe some pointers in general directions of > some things th

Re: New BugZappers Introduction

2011-05-23 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 23.5.2011 06:55, Eric Wright napsal(a): > Name: Eric > Experience: Four years with Linux, only use it now. Computer Science > student. > Interested in helping in my spare time, probably a few minutes a day. > Awesome! Please take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers and articl

For ALL BugZappers: bugzilla-triage-scripts 1.0 ... it is here!

2011-05-19 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi, all my beloved BugZappers! so this is the moment we all eagerly waited for! This is the version 1.0 of bugzilla-triage-scripts. It should come to you just by checking for updates in about:addons in your Firefox. The minimal requirement is Firefox >= 4.0.1 (either in Fedora 15, or from remi

Re: npviewer crash?

2011-05-17 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 17.5.2011 11:31, Frank Murphy napsal(a): > But, I don't have any i386 on my x86_64 boxes. > And use Flashblock, with my 64bit flash. > and my browser doesn't crash. I won't let this into a flamewar … just to comment, that I don't have crashing experience with nspluginwrapper either. Matěj -

Re: npviewer crash?

2011-05-17 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 16.5.2011 23:30, Frank Murphy napsal(a): > rpm -q flash-plugin > flash-plugin-10.3.162.29-2.x86_64 > > and less problems without nspluginwrapper. Yes, except I have flash-plugin-10.3.181.14-release.i386 so you are missing all those (mainly security) bugs which have been fixed in meanwhile.

Re: Somebody hosed grub.conf

2011-05-13 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 12.5.2011 20:13, Jason D. Clinton napsal(a): > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:52, Jonathan Corbet wrote: >> So I went to boot my rawhide system > > You're sending this question to the wrong list. This list is for > people testing the F15 release so you're almost certainly not going to > run in to

Re: shell is gone?

2011-05-10 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 10.5.2011 20:04, cornel panceac napsal(a): > hm? i'm confused! if mutter performs better, why hardware has to be > blacklisted? is there (again) a lack of manpower hitting here? Could be. Probably mostly lack of manpower to maintain the blacklist, keep it tested, and work over each individua

Re: shell is gone?

2011-05-09 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 9.5.2011 13:45, cornel panceac napsal(a): > are you aware of any open source driver capable of running shell > correctly? i've seen problems in nouveau too. Yes, many. We have many happy (or unhappy, but that's a different point) gnome-shell users with FLOSS drivers on all three major chipset

For ALL BugZappers: bugzilla-triage-scripts 1.0RC1 ... please test

2011-05-09 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi, all my beloved BugZappers! If you have Firefox >= 4.0.1 (either in Fedora 15, from spot's F13/F14 repo at http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/spot/firefox4/, or using the upstream binary from http://www.mozilla.com/cs/firefox/), please try to install https://fedorahosted.org/released/bugzi

Re: new firewall utility in Fedora and F15 Beta install problems on a netbook

2011-05-01 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 1.5.2011 03:23, Antonio Olivares napsal(a): > Sorry for asking this question :(, but how does one know if were are > running a firewall on basic install? Do we have to set it up on our > own, or it is setup automagically for us? nmap localhost Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedorapr

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-04-30 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 30.4.2011 16:50, Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): > I didn't see a response to your introduction, so I'd like to welome you. > I help out a bit in QA, but am mainly a packager. The bugzapper IRC > meetings are at 2100 UTC Tuesdays in #fedora-meeting. Other related meetings > (at least if you like QA

Re: Gnome 3 Activities button missing.

2011-04-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 26.4.2011 10:31, Erik P. Olsen napsal(a): > I have installed F15 beta with all available updates and there is no > Activities > button. It hasn't been there from the very beginning. How can I get it? Do you have true gnome-shell, or are you limited by your graphics card (or rather by our mis

Re: Multiple F15Beta bugs in under an hour

2011-04-22 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 21.4.2011 15:51, Adam Jackson napsal(a): > It's even easier than that. Click on the black title bar in the Display > capplet and move it to the monitor you want it to appear on. Unfortunately, it took me twenty minutes before I figured out this one. ... :( Matěj -- test mailing list test@

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-04-15 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 14.4.2011 19:33, Sree napsal(a): > I'd like to join the fedora bugzappers team. I have a good knowledge > about linux, and specifically fedora. I've been using fedora for about 3 > years now and I guess it's time I try and give something back to the > community :) Thank you very much. > Also,

Re: F15 yum update pblm

2011-04-13 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 13.4.2011 15:52, Steven Stern napsal(a): > Problem or temporary thing? Attemping an update this morning: File bugs please. Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Gnome 3 Calendar

2011-04-13 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 13.4.2011 15:28, Steven Stern napsal(a): > The Gnome3 Calendar seems to require Evolution. Is there a way to use > some other calendar program (e.g., Thunderbird with Lightning) or to > link it directly to a Google calendar? For Thunderbird I use with a great profit https://addons.mozilla.org

Re: Gnome 3 and VNC

2011-04-03 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 3.4.2011 14:06, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R napsal(a): > How is Gnome 3 going to work with VNC, which does not do 3D? It doesn't and it falls back to the fallback mode (the same goes for most virtual machines). Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: http

Re: gnome 3 delayed

2011-04-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 1.4.2011 12:06, Fabian A. Scherschel napsal(a): > Check debian.org ;) And shame on us, that we haven't joint “the project” as well! Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Unable to boot Fedora 15 Alpha.

2011-03-31 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 31.3.2011 23:36, Vamsi Krishna Brahmajosyula napsal(a): > please add "selinux=0" as kernel parameter while booting. In earlier > cases relabeling worked for me. I haven't tried with the most recent > update yet. Please don't spread bad advice! The correct parameter is enforcing=0. If anybody

Fedora Bugzappers meeting in twenty minutes

2011-02-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Hi, sorry for very very late (probably too late for most of you) announcement, but we will make a brief meeting for all BugZappers who are willing to come to #fedora-meeting in twenty minutes (21:00 UTC (4 PM EST/1 PM PST)). See you there, Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-01-30 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 30.1.2011 22:38, Greg Nye napsal(a): > My name is Greg and I'm very pleased to join the Fedora BugZappers Team. Welcome, feel to ask us with any questions on #fedora-bugzappers channel on Freenode. Best, Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 25.1.2011 15:44, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): > I think you are missing context there. I read it as frustration from > someone who works as a full time bug triager for that team rather than a > serious suggestion. Let's stick to the technical discussions. Yes, sorry for my sarcasm not being ob

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 25.1.2011 11:41, Peter Robinson napsal(a): > In terms of dependencies for gnome 3 you may be right but for every > other part of the distribution you are completely wrong, at least on > this space time continuum. There are quite a number of people fixing > dependency problems and its attitudes

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 25.1.2011 11:41, Peter Robinson napsal(a): > Actually if your speaking for the Red Hat desktop team I agree with No, I am speaking (as always) just for myself. Matěj -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 25.1.2011 07:59, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > But it doesn't make any sense. gnome-panel does *not* require > gnome-shell. We really shouldn't just go around abusing dependencies to > make upgrades 'work', even if it is convenient. I would suggest just to give up. Dependencies in RPM packages