Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-11-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 14:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2019-07-29 at 14:58 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > OK, so, to move forward with this (and looping in cloud list): does > > > someone want to propose a set (ideally

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-11-02 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 11/1/19 5:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2019-07-29 at 14:58 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM Adam Williamson >> wrote: >>> OK, so, to move forward with this (and looping in cloud list): does >>> someone want to propose a set (ideally small - 2 would be

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-11-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 9:06 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-07-29 at 14:58 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > OK, so, to move forward with this (and looping in cloud list): does > > > someone want to propose a set (ideally

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-11-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-07-29 at 14:58 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > OK, so, to move forward with this (and looping in cloud list): does > > someone want to propose a set (ideally small - 2 would be great, one > > Xen and one non-Xen, if we can cover

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-08-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:27 AM Elnikety, Eslam wrote: > > But t3 is not Xen. > That's a good reason to not use it. :-) I picked it to be a small, cheap instance that would represent a potential use case. Is the t2 family Xen? Or the m5? I think it makes sense to write the requirement as "the

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-29 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > OK, so, to move forward with this (and looping in cloud list): does > someone want to propose a set (ideally small - 2 would be great, one > Xen and one non-Xen, if we can cover most common usages that way!) of > EC2 instance types we

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 21:43 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > > > > criterion in the first place was

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-23 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 12 Jul 2019, at 13:24, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:50 AM David Woodhouse wrote: >> >> >>> IIRC, what we have right now is a somewhat vague setup where we just >>> have 'local', 'ec2' and 'openstack' columns. The instructions for >>> "Amazon Web Services" just

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:50 AM David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Yeah, that's where I was going to go next (there has already been a > > thread about this this morning). If what we care about is that Fedora > > boots on EC2, that's what we

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Yeah, that's where I was going to go next (there has already been a > thread about this this morning). If what we care about is that Fedora > boots on EC2, that's what we should have in the criteria, and what we > should test. While

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 21:43 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > > > criterion in the first place was that Amazon was using Xen for EC2, but > > > that is no longer the

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread Peter Robinson
> On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > > criterion in the first place was that Amazon was using Xen for EC2, but > > that is no longer the case, most if not all EC2 instance types no > > longer use Xen. >

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > criterion in the first place was that Amazon was using Xen for EC2, but > that is no longer the case, most if not all EC2 instance types no > longer use Xen. I don't

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 09:57 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On 7/8/19 11:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases > > > > > > > providing > > > > > > > a functional,

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-09 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:12 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases > providing > > > > > > a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers > > > > > >

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-08 Thread Geoffrey Marr
I am in favor of removing the Xen blocking criteria as it has not received the testing it needs and has been a source of conflict for several releases in the past. Geoff Marr IRC: coremodule On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:12 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases > > > > > providing > > > > > a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers > > > > > utilizing Xen." > > > > > > > > > > and change the

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-05-13 at 16:29 -0600, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > > I am going to step in here with my hat as Xen Project community > manager. We had a discussion about this issue as part of last week's > community call. I CC'ed a number of stake-holders, which probably > should have been on the

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-21 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 7:45 PM Lars Kurth wrote: > @Adam and Fedora Testing & QA: > any views on my proposal? > Regards > Lars > Hi Lars, thanks for your reply. Adam was on a long vacation and he's probably the most qualified person to reply to you, sorry for not telling you sooner. Adam is

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-20 Thread Lars Kurth
@Adam and Fedora Testing & QA: any views on my proposal? Regards Lars > On 13 May 2019, at 16:29, Lars Kurth wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am going to step in here with my hat as Xen Project community > manager. We had a discussion about this issue as part of last week's > community call. I CC'ed a

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-14 Thread Lars Kurth
Apologies, I mixed up some references Lars > On 13 May 2019, at 16:29, Lars Kurth wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am going to step in here with my hat as Xen Project community > manager. We had a discussion about this issue as part of last week's > community call. I CC'ed a number of stake-holders,

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2019-04-27 at 14:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 13:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 15:59 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > > > > > I would prefer for it to remain as it

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 13:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 15:59 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > > > > I would prefer for it to remain as it is. > > > > > > > > This is only practical if it's going to be

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-27 Thread Josef Skladanka
+1 On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:53 PM Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > Yup +1 from my side too. Xen is hardly tested since a lot of time. > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:07 PM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > >> Since F24, I haven't seen or heard of anyone who uses Xen over KVM >> anywhere other than this

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-26 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Yup +1 from my side too. Xen is hardly tested since a lot of time. On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:07 PM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > Since F24, I haven't seen or heard of anyone who uses Xen over KVM > anywhere other than this thread... I'm +1 for making this test an > "Optional" one. > > Geoff Marr >

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-26 Thread Geoffrey Marr
Since F24, I haven't seen or heard of anyone who uses Xen over KVM anywhere other than this thread... I'm +1 for making this test an "Optional" one. Geoff Marr IRC: coremodule On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 13:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 13:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 15:59 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > > > I would prefer for it to remain as it is. > > > > > > This is only practical if it's going to be tested, and tested regularly > > > - not *only* on the final release

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2017-07-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 15:59 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > > > I would prefer for it to remain as it is. > > > > This is only practical if it's going to be tested, and tested regularly > > - not *only* on the final release candidate, right before we sign off > > on the release. It needs

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2017-07-06 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
Posting from gmail, so hopefully it doesn't send it as HTML.. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 15:13 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 11:59:01AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > Hi, folks! A