Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 11:43:52 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Yet one could have _discontinued_ the old fedora-release package and moved its files into a _new_ and _non-conflicting_ *-common package. ;) What would have been the advantage? A matter of design -- it would lead to a different

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 11:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: The definition of a Product is not, at present, 'has these and only exactly these packages installed', it's more 'has at least these packages installed'. It's all still being figured out, but it was considered reasonable to let

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-11-26 at 14:11 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 11:43 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: The definition of a Product is not, at present, 'has these and only exactly these packages installed', it's more 'has at least these packages installed'. It's all still

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:07:32 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, you're never supposed to be in a case where you're relying on yum to solve it without any hints, it's not really 'random'. Yum is known for pulling in odd packages for the case of a dependency where any provider suffices.

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 13:01 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:07:32 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, you're never supposed to be in a case where you're relying on yum to solve it without any hints, it's not really 'random'. Yum is known for pulling in odd packages

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:45:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20 could have been from fedora-release 21 to a non-product release via a single well-defined Obsoletes instead of an arbitrary one? Why not discontinue the old fedora-release

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 20:19 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:45:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20 could have been from fedora-release 21 to a non-product release via a single well-defined Obsoletes instead of an

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread poma
On 22.11.2014 20:43, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 20:19 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 08:45:51 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I wonder whether an upgrade path from Fedora 20 could have been from fedora-release 21 to a non-product release via a single

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2014-11-22 at 21:35 +0100, poma wrote: It seems to me that you are the only one who understands what is written here. :) It seems to me that you can't possibly know that. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin .

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:01:07 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: system-release-product is needed by (installed) fedora-release-21-0.16.noarch As one can see, it's some virtual package or capability, but not a direct or strict dependency on fedora-release-cloud. Yes. That's not a

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 11:29 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:01:07 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: system-release-product is needed by (installed) fedora-release-21-0.16.noarch As one can see, it's some virtual package or capability, but not a direct or

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 19:29 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 05:51:39 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: fedora-release-workstation-0:21-0.16.noarch generic-release-cloud-0:21-7.noarch Seems to me at some time a random generic dependency has been pulled in and

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-20 Thread Bodhi Zazen
Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases test@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:01:07 PM Subject: Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 19:29 +0100

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-11-20 at 15:27 -0700, Bodhi Zazen wrote: Thank you for the detailed explanation Adam. Moving forward, perhaps consider either making it easier to swap out the releases for put what is the best command on a wiki page to swap between releases for those who wish to swap between

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 13:00 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch Worse than I thought. # rpm -e fedora-release-cloud error: Failed dependencies: system-release-product is needed by (installed

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 05:51:39 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: fedora-release-workstation-0:21-0.16.noarch generic-release-cloud-0:21-7.noarch Seems to me at some time a random generic dependency has been pulled in and now causes problems. Er, no? You have no generic package

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-12 Thread Bodhi Zazen
- From: Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:29:22 AM Subject: Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 05:51:39 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: fedora

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-12 Thread Adrian
Is there a particular url link available for the new yum with command formats options available please ? Adrian Fewster On 13/11/14 08:57, Bodhi Zazen wrote: You can fix this with yum swap -- remove firewalld-config-standard fedora-release-cloud -- install firewalld-config-workstation

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-12 Thread Bodhi Zazen
-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch Is there a particular url link available for the new yum with command formats options available please ? Adrian Fewster On 13/11/14 08:57, Bodhi Zazen wrote: You can fix this with yum swap -- remove firewalld-config

Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
# yum groupinstall 'Xfce Desktop' [...] -- Finished Dependency Resolution Error: fedora-release-nonproduct conflicts with fedora-release-cloud-21-0.16.noarch Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch For many years, we've been telling new packagers

Re: Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch

2014-11-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
Error: fedora-release-cloud conflicts with fedora-release-nonproduct-21-0.16.noarch Worse than I thought. # rpm -e fedora-release-cloud error: Failed dependencies: system-release-product is needed by (installed) fedora-release-21-0.16.noarch # repoquery --whatprovides system-release