Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-27 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:58 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > The adjusted criterion seems to affect only this test case: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_menus > > My current plan is to redo it somewhat. I want to: > > 1. Drop all instructions to run applications from Testcase_desktop

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-26 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:04 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > >> It has been 7 days since the last response to the thread and I received >> no further complaints, so I've put the criterion into effect: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-23 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > It has been 7 days since the last response to the thread and I received no > further complaints, so I've put the criterion into effect: > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria&type=revision&diff=568145&

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 14:58 +0100, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > It has been 7 days since the last response to the thread and I received no > > further complaints, so I've put the criterion into effect: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.ph

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-12 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:58 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > Note: In point 2), we don't actually need 10 different test cases > (templated or not). We might just create Testcase_desktop_app_single > instead of those 10 and differentiate them on the matrix level the same way > as we do with e.g. "Testcas

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-12 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01 PM Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:31 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > >> There are some high-profile types of applications that I considered >> including in the list above, but didn’t in the end: >> >> * word editor (e.g. libreoffice-writer) >> >> * sprea

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-12 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 9:31 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > There are some high-profile types of applications that I considered > including in the list above, but didn’t in the end: > > * word editor (e.g. libreoffice-writer) > > * spreadsheet editor (e.g. libreoffice-calc) > > * video player (e.g

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-12 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:59 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > It has been 7 days since the last response to the thread and I received no > further complaints, so I've put the criterion into effect: > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria&type=revision&diff=568145&

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-12 Thread Kamil Paral
It has been 7 days since the last response to the thread and I received no further complaints, so I've put the criterion into effect: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_32_Final_Release_Criteria&type=revision&diff=568145&oldid=564126 I've done slight tweaks compared to the original

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-05 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:28 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:55 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > """ > > If there are multiple applications of the same type (e.g. several web > browsers), the primary/default one must satisfy the requirements. If the > primary/default application can'

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-04 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 1:55 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > > """ > If there are multiple applications of the same type (e.g. several web > browsers), the primary/default one must satisfy the requirements. If the > primary/default application can't be determined, only one of said > applications must sa

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-04 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:43 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > I haven't received much feedback on this proposal. On test list and kde > list, there was a short follow-up regarding the list of release-blocking > applications. On kde list, Kevin disagreed because it lowers the guaranteed > quality bar for KD

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-03 Thread Kalev Lember
On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:44 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 3:20 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > >> This proposal intends to reduce the scope of the “*Default application >> functionality*” release criterion [0]: >> >> All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical >>

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-03-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 3:20 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > This proposal intends to reduce the scope of the “*Default application > functionality*” release criterion [0]: > > All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical >> mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default in

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-02-25 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 7:19 PM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > > > > *= Proposal =* > > > > Change the criterion to something along these lines: > > > > All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical > > > > As you can see, the original criterion was kept for Fedora’s flagship > > des

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-02-24 Thread Geoffrey Marr
> This proposal intends to reduce the scope of the “*Default application > functionality*” release criterion [0]: > > All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical > > *= Background =* > > The area which QA is responsible for has been growing and growing in recent > years. W

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-02-18 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 3:20 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > Change the criterion to something along these lines: > >> All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical >> mechanism after a default installation of Fedora Workstation on x86_64 >> architecture must start successfully and w

Re: proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-02-18 Thread Kamil Paral
is email have subject "proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction"? It that an accident, or is there some reason behind it? Can we please do not reply to this thread any further, so that it doesn't confuse people who want to read and reply to the actual proposal (

proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-02-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In the test list at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_32_Branched_20200212.n.1_Desktop There are 27 rows of things to test on between 1 and five platforms. Even given that much of the testing is automated. You still need test engineers to keep that all updated, running, and c

proposal: Default application functionality criterion reduction

2020-02-17 Thread Kamil Paral
This proposal intends to reduce the scope of the “*Default application functionality*” release criterion [0]: All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical > mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of > that desktop must start successfully and with