#271: L10N and i18n Test Day
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Reporter: aalam | Owner: jdulaney
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 17
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
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I never had any issues with the DVD alpha or beta minus btrfs.
Did you do any custom partitioning?
Dan
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
Unlike the Alpha DVD iso, I was able to install f17
Beta
Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
Still not a reason for a rolling release.
I quite enjoy Fedora 14.
Thanks,
Dan
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:06:42 -0700
Dan Mashal wrote:
You can install updates during the
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:46:54 -0700
Dan Mashal wrote:
Just use whatever the default options are for upgrading or replace
existing linux system with all default options for now,
That should do it.
I'm not upgrading. I'm installing from scratch in a different
partition.
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On 18.04.2012 07:46, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Am I missing something obvious?
Run program, right-click entry in sidebar, click Add to Favorites, perhaps?
Jan
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Ok, will test tomorrow.
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Subject: Re: Hey! Hard disk install of DVD iso
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 08:42 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:08:04PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 10:11 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
[1] The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all
primary
architectures, with all system
Compose started at Wed Apr 18 08:15:05 UTC 2012
Broken deps for x86_64
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[aeolus-conductor]
aeolus-conductor-0.4.0-2.fc17.noarch requires ruby(abi) = 0:1.8
[aeolus-configserver]
aeolus-configserver-0.4.5-1.fc17.noarch
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
Still not a reason for a rolling release.
I quite enjoy Fedora 14.
Please, if you do nothing else, upgrade your kernel manually.
josh
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 10:23 +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
2. I have a plugged-in USB disk and I am at the physical console
however I need to find the name of my USB disk in the folder list
and click on it before I can use any files on it
This is what I personally object to, and I suspect
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 04:44 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:56:04 -0700
Dan Mashal wrote:
I never had any issues with the DVD alpha or beta minus btrfs.
Did you do any custom partitioning?
My problems came way before partitioning. It simply couldn't
find the disk
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 01:49 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote:
Well that's an Anaconda bug isn't it? :)
Still not a reason for a rolling release.
Why is it a bug at all? Why wouldn't you want that?
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And sorry, I'm not that type. Try again.
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Rick Stevens
rstev...@corp.alldigital.comwrote:
On 04/18/2012 09:22 AM, David wrote:
On 4/18/2012 11:11 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
My system is secure. Thanks for your concern.
Dan
On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
Tried a i386 F17 Beta on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 machine here at
work and works fine. However my new upgraded home machine fails :(
Hardware info:
* Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
* 3ware 9650SE-8LPML
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 09:42 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 09:50 -0700, Tommy Pham wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone tried the recent beta released on DVD?
Yes.
Does it give
various install options
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:22 -0400, David wrote:
On 4/18/2012 11:11 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
My system is secure. Thanks for your concern.
Fedora 14 is EOL since one month after Fedora 16. Fedora 15 will be EOL
one month after Fedora 17. A long time with no security patches of any
kind for any
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:15 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
OK, so I took a look at the GNOME Disks utility, which I was finally
able to get to run without crashing, and as far as I can tell, it
doesn't resolve my main complaint with the new F17 behavior.
Yes, I can use the Disks utility to
On 04/18/2012 01:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
If you set a specific mount location for a device in that tool - i.e. in
fstab - it will be used even if the device is connected after login.
Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
If it is the position of the Fedora developers that
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 18:03 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 06:04 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
One remark to this paragraph:
It is theoretically possible that the situation could arise where
a release candidate is requested and built, and results in multiple
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:05 -0500, John Morris wrote:
It is behind a NAT on a home network so I don't worry too much about it
getting hacked. Firefox is almost certainly vulnerable but you rarely
see active attacks in the wild against Linux browsers, especially if you
don't hang out at dodgy
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:00, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /run/media/$USER
is the right place for stuff to be mounted, and I don't have a
particular problem with that decision, then I
I can upgrade. I know how to.
It's actually a Virtualbox VM running on a quad core AMD box with 16GB of
RAM.
Yes, it is natted.
Yes SSH is open to the internet.
Yes nginx is open to the internet.
Yes other ports are open to the internet.
No I've never gotten hacked.
Any other questions?
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 13:00, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Should I file a bug fix about this?
No, you'd be wasting your time. It's hidden intentionally because it's
considered deprecated in GNOME 3. The GNOME devs don't like the whole
session handling stuff and consider it
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
Tried a i386 F17 Beta on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 machine here at
work and works fine. However my new upgraded home machine fails :(
Hardware info:
* Gigabyte
Adam Williamson wrote:
I did test upgrade with yum following info on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum
After doing succesfull usrmove i did upgrade with:
yum --releasever=17 update rpm
rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__*
rpm --rebuilddb
yum --releasever=17 distro-sync
If i
But no, right clicking on empty space doesn't do diddly squat in the
Gnome 3 Applications screen.
I do not think a click on nothing is persuasively intuative as a way to
create an application launcher.
Who wants diddly squats littering the screen, anyway?
For programs that can be found through
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 05:55, Jan Wildeboer jwild...@redhat.com wrote:
On 18.04.2012 07:46, Fernando Cassia wrote:
Am I missing something obvious?
Run program, right-click entry in sidebar, click Add to Favorites, perhaps?
Jan
who mentioned favorites??
Let me repeat:
I download a Java app
That's still notabug, I think. See my comment. Even if it wasn't, the
fault isn't anaconda's.
Then the bug should be moved to grub2, because it sure is a bug.
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On 04/18/2012 07:56 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:48, Richard Ryniker ryni...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
I suspect your concern may be for an easy way to add new programs
to the Applications function, which is a more obscure matter. Something
that creates a .desktop file in
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:59, Joachim Backes
joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote:
I think that should be done by alacarte, but it's broken actually.
Joachim,
I appreciate your reply, and don´t get me wrong, but anybody else
understands how counter-intuititive this whole thing is?. Why need to
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:48, Richard Ryniker ryni...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
I do not think a click on nothing is persuasively intuative as a way to
create an application launcher.
Right clicking over something to obtain a pop-up menu of actions to
perform on it is an almost universal metaphor in
On 18/04/12 19:07, Fernando Cassia wrote:
It has worked that way from the OS/2 Workplace Shell (whose paradigm
was ´everything is an object´) to Windows, too... (and previous Gnome
versions).
Unfortunately CUA is going (gone) the way of the DoDo
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:22 -0400, David wrote:
On 4/18/2012 11:11 AM, Dan Mashal wrote:
My system is secure. Thanks for your concern.
Fedora 14 is EOL since one month after Fedora 16. Fedora 15 will be EOL
one month after Fedora 17. A long time with no security patches of any
kind
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 15:10, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately CUA is going (gone) the way of the DoDo
Hi Frank,
What, you read my rant? :)
http://news.techeye.net/software/software-gui-design-going-to-hell-in-a-basket
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On 18/04/12 19:15, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 15:10, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com
mailto:frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately CUA is going (gone) the way of the DoDo
Hi Frank,
What, you read my rant? :)
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 15:17, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
No, just studied sw design for a bit.
:))
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Three use cases in which in my opinion the behavior is clearly incorrect:
Case 1:
1. Put DVD in drive while logged in. DVD is mounted.
2. Reboot computer and log back in. DVD is not mounted. It should be.
Case 2:
1. Put DVD in drive before logging in. DVD is not mounted.
2. Log in. DVD is
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:12, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
So, I´m running out of clues as to what to do. I´m curious if any of you
running F17 with the testing repos experienced any hiccup wrt X not
starting up?.
If not, I´d really appreciate clues wrt how to get my system back
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5631/phpMyAdmin-3.5.0-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5805/samba-3.5.14-73.fc15.1
If I plug it in while I'm logged in, it shows up. I log out and log back in,
and it still shows up.
If I reboot, plug it in during GDM, and then log in... it shows up. Under
what circumstance does it not show up for you?
If your USB stick is plugged in before you boot your system, where does it
Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said:
If I plug it in while I'm logged in, it shows up. I log out and log back in,
and it still shows up.
If I reboot, plug it in during GDM, and then log in... it shows up. Under
what circumstance does it not show up for you?
Aha, for this last one
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why should F17 behave differently from F17 and from every other
mainstream OS people are familiar with?
What
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 16:13, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
So, I´d really appreciate if someone more knowledgeable about Xorg snafus
would give me a generic recipe to get my system back to at least vesa mode.
I guess booting from grub 2.0 in single user mode would be first right?
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 17:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I've booted F16.
My old-grub stanza:
title chainload to sda
kernel (hd1,1)/grub2/core.img
As I didn't expect it to work, I only installed the minimal version.
There are a few things
I just did a sucessful install to an external USB HD using a USB of
Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
-It only used the Install Repo on the DVD(USB)
./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --reset-mbr
Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1
1-)needed an 8GB USB formatted GPT format with /dev/sdb1
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jonathan Kamens j...@kamens.us wrote:
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why should F17 behave
On 04/18/2012 03:51 PM, Thomas Gilliard wrote:
I just did a sucessful install to an external USB HD using a USB of
Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso
-It only used the Install Repo on the DVD(USB)
./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --reset-mbr
Fedora-17-Beta-x86_64-DVD.iso /dev/sdb1
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 14:17 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 14:00, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
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On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 14:27 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 13:00, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Should I file a bug fix about this?
No, you'd be wasting your time. It's hidden intentionally because it's
considered deprecated in GNOME 3. The GNOME devs
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 20:34 +0300, Tomi Leppikangas wrote:
If you want to do a one-step upgrade you could add
'--enablerepo=updates-testing' to the 'distro-sync' operation.
Ok this makes sense. So this is problem only exists when F17 is in
beta, when released distro-upgrade would update
I suppose since all that is installed on
the /dev/sdb1 LIVE partition is
LiveOS - 130.4 MB
syslinux - 29.4 MB
Properties: 159.9 MB used
5.2 GB free
Filesystem type:msdos
the /dev/sdb2 LIVE-REPO contains a 2.5 GB .iso file.
Properties: 2.5 GB used
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:57 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
That's still notabug, I think. See my comment. Even if it wasn't, the
fault isn't anaconda's.
Then the bug should be moved to grub2, because it sure is a bug.
If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't. Like I
said,
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 14:40 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /run/media/$USER
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 17:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I've booted F16.
My old-grub stanza:
title chainload to sda
kernel (hd1,1)/grub2/core.img
As I didn't expect it
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:05:42 +0100
Adam Williamson wrote:
If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't.
But it is supposed to work. I've already added a pointer to
an upstream bug fixed not too long ago where blocklist
booting was broken and the grub maintainers considered
On 04/17/2012 07:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 18:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
(but why is it *always* broken in Alphas? :-).
The clue is in the name ;)
I disagree. Alphas obviously have bugs, but when the *same* bug (or
different bugs with the same symptoms) are
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 19:54 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:05:42 +0100
Adam Williamson wrote:
If grub2 isn't designed to be chainloaded in that way, it isn't.
But it is supposed to work. I've already added a pointer to
an upstream bug fixed not too long ago where
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 18:13 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
Not all hacks involve the attacker posting some kind of 'HAHA U HAZ BEEN
HACKED' notice to let you know about it. Those are the _nice_ hackers.
Well they usually DO something with a machine they have 0wn3ed. No spam
spewing forth, no
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 19:25 -0500, John Morris wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 18:13 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
Not all hacks involve the attacker posting some kind of 'HAHA U HAZ BEEN
HACKED' notice to let you know about it. Those are the _nice_ hackers.
Well they usually DO something
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why should F17 behave differently from
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
Tried a i386 F17 Beta on an old Dell Optiplex GX280 machine here at
work and works fine.
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:22 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:04 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote:
I know this doesn´t solve my problem, but I´m outraged.
In general, we expect an application to bring a suitable desktop file so
it is usable after you installed it. That is
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 02:30 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
And rpm -Va doesn't
show anything nasty in the packages that would give an intruder an in.
If someone's owned the machine, they can make rpm -Va say whatever they
like.
Which brings up a good point. I know that the only way to be
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The arguments are really going downhill here. I'm not overly interested
in wading into this, but I'll just say that whenever we do something
automatically, somebody will get mad. In the past, auto-mounting (and
even just automatically
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:19 -0500, John Morris wrote:
On the other hand, has there ever been a real case found in the wild of
an infestation that was so good at covering its tracks? The security
problems I saw in the past were the crudest script kiddies and I haven't
even seen one of those
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Tommy Pham tommy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2012/04/18 09:42 (GMT-0700) Tommy Pham composed:
Tried a i386 F17 Beta on
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 03:26 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:38 -0400, Ma
Honestly, I'm not sure there's any difference at all between 'mount on
attach' and 'mount on any attempt to access' from a security POV.
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5624/phpMyAdmin-3.5.0-1.fc16
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5058/expat-2.1.0-1.fc16
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5631/phpMyAdmin-3.5.0-1.fc15
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5805/samba-3.5.14-73.fc15.1
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