Re: HTTP installation report

2012-04-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/02 17:06 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed: the problem with doing a default network install is you get packages from updates-testing...I did several minimal installs of Beta RC2 and saw nothing like this. I did it all over, except unchecked the updates-testing source box. Didn't

Noveau still unstable?

2012-04-03 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I replaced a power supply and the spontaneous reboots associated with FFMPEG have not recurred. However, the odd behavior where Fedora decides to ignore all input except for mouse movement persists. When this happens, Fedora seems to slowly grind to a catatonic state which requires a hardware

F-17 Branched report: 20120403 changes

2012-04-03 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Apr 3 08:15:09 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray

Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
I was quite depressed how hard it can be for a layman to find a way to install Fedora from LiveCD environment. If you don't recognize the icon in Gnome Shell Overview mode, it can give you quite some work to find it. Since OSS philosophy is if you don't like it, fix it, I did. In the last two

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Kamil Paral wrote: http://kparal.fedorapeople.org/misc/InstallFedoraButton.png What do you think? Better than default? I like it. Good work. Would it be better to have the text say Install Fedora instead of .. to Hard Drive? Hard Drive is becoming an obsolete term. You have flash drives,

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
Would it be better to have the text say Install Fedora instead of .. to Hard Drive? Hard Drive is becoming an obsolete term. You have flash drives, SSDs, or whatever else people install Fedora to. I pull that string from default anaconda launcher. If they change it, it will change also in

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:26 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: I was quite depressed how hard it can be for a layman to find a way to install Fedora from LiveCD environment. If you don't recognize the icon in Gnome Shell Overview mode, it can give you quite some work to find it. Since OSS philosophy

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: You can see it here: http://kparal.fedorapeople.org/misc/InstallFedoraButton.png What do you think? Better than default? How about Install Fedora since it could be installed to SSD or iSCSI etc. I pull that string from default anaconda

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
So, we decided for F16 that we don't want to add extensions like that to the shell that we ship on the live cd. It should be the default experience. Can't be 100% default, because installer is a slightly different use case, isn't it. For the 'make installing obvious' problem, what we

Re: Some errors from package install in F17

2012-04-03 Thread Matthias Runge
On 30/03/12 07:53, stan wrote: In general, install went very well. Of the several thousand packages I installed, these were the only errors. I was really impressed. These packages failed at transaction check: Transaction Check Error: file /etc/logrotate.d/syslog from install of

Re: Some errors from package install in F17

2012-04-03 Thread stan
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 17:16:22 +0200 Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.de wrote: On 30/03/12 07:53, stan wrote: Transaction Check Error: file /etc/logrotate.d/syslog from install of syslog-ng-3.2.5-5.fc17.x86_64 conflicts with file from package rsyslog-5.8.7-1.fc17.x86_64 Thanks

Re: Noveau still unstable?

2012-04-03 Thread stan
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:11:17 -0700 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com wrote: However, the odd behavior where Fedora decides to ignore all input except for mouse movement persists. When this happens, Fedora seems to slowly grind to a catatonic state which requires a hardware reset.

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:29:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: For the 'make installing obvious' problem, what we really want is to just autostart the installer. Unfortunately, the current live installer does not really work well for that... I don't think that is a good

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 11:30 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:29:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: For the 'make installing obvious' problem, what we really want is to just autostart the installer. Unfortunately, the current live installer does

Re: Noveau still unstable?

2012-04-03 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 04/03/2012 09:24 AM, stan wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 03:11:17 -0700 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469Rc...@omen.com wrote: However, the odd behavior where Fedora decides to ignore all input except for mouse movement persists. When this happens, Fedora seems to slowly grind to a catatonic state

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com said: That really depends on what use cases we see for our live cds. In my view, there's really only two: The primary use for a live cd is to install. That's the primary use of the install media. The primary use of the live media is to

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Kamil Paral
To summarize, I see two major paths: a) Make installer launcher more visible: e.g. http://kparal.fedorapeople.org/misc/InstallFedoraButton.png -or- b) Use a proxy window asking which use case is relevant for you: e.g. http://i.imgur.com/I26vS.png Both approaches are fine in my view and

Re: Some errors from package install in F17

2012-04-03 Thread Matthias Runge
On 03/04/12 18:04, stan wrote: [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796373 Thanks for the link and the response. That was my first thought; unlike the ticket, on my system removing rsyslog wants to uninstall many more packages. I can keep track of them, and re-install them after

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 12:44:17 -0400, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: That really depends on what use cases we see for our live cds. In my view, there's really only two: The primary use for a live cd is to install. And then, there is a secondary use where you want to review or

Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2012-04-03 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4342/libtasn1-2.12-1.fc16 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4291/taglib-1.7.1-1.fc16

Fedora 15 updates-testing report

2012-04-03 Thread updates
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5256/wireshark-1.4.12-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4308/libtasn1-2.12-1.fc15

Re: Unable to read package metadata

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: I filed a bug and found a workaround: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809470 This is your workaround: title Install Rawhide (hd0,13) kernel (hd0,2)/fedora/vmlinuz repo=http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/fedora/development/17/i386/os

Re: New criterion for updates.img using

2012-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 14:58 +0100, Petr Schindler wrote: I've added new criterion to beta release criteria. Tha alpha criterion has already been there (I proposed it in another thread). You can find changes here [1]. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria On

RE: New criterion for updates.img using

2012-04-03 Thread Dan Mashal
Good job guys. I just wonder why use the updates-testing repo in the first place? I realize it's a beta.. but might as well just run rawhide at that point. Amirite? Dan -Original Message- From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On

Re: New criterion for updates.img using

2012-04-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 19:21 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: Good job guys. I just wonder why use the updates-testing repo in the first place? I realize it's a beta.. but might as well just run rawhide at that point. Amirite? That's nothing to do with this thread. We're talking about this: