Re: Broken dnf from 06-30-2018
On Thu, 2018-07-05 at 10:38 +0100, Russel Winder wrote: > On Tue, 2018-07-03 at 20:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-07-01 at 09:19 +0100, Russel Winder wrote: > > > I wonder if this > > > episode indicates that there should be work done to make sure that a > > > broken > > > dnf can never be installed? > > > > How do you propose we do that? > > Using a two stage system: 1. take a one step back version of Fedora Rawhide > and add the new dnf; then run a few tests such as "dnf check-update > --refresh" > and "dnf upgrade". 2. take a current version of Fedora Rawhide and add the new > dnf; then run the same set of tests. This should ensure dnf dependencies are > correct and that "dnf upgrade" never causes a seg fault. > > I would have thought the dnf people would have been doing this sort of system > testing given just how important dnf is to Fedora Rawhide. To have people > (it's not just me) in a situation of not being able to amend their system with > dnf should I feel cause deep embarrassment to the dnf people despite the > caveat emptor nature of Fedora Rawhide. But the new dnf doesn't break everywhere; I updated to it and didn't hit any of the reported issues. I'm sure the DNF developers *do* test it on their local machines, but this is not some sort of cast-iron guarantee that it will never fail anywhere else. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/PFDRV4ASN5RT2QJ4TCDWO4RT22EN6UGH/
Re: Broken dnf from 06-30-2018
On Thu, 2018-07-05 at 10:48 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > > > > Has anyone discovered a way forward for updating Fedora Rawhide given dnf > > just > > seg faults currently? > > Can you use rpm to just update it lmanually? > So far no. The RPM files downloaded from Koji require the Python 3.7 ABI but currently Python is 3.6. This apples to dnf 3.0.2 and 2.7.5 RPMs downloaded. -- Russel. === Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/FFWIWD6IOJ2G5ZNZZ6G2KCGSKYBDUL5J/
Re: Broken dnf from 06-30-2018
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > > Has anyone discovered a way forward for updating Fedora Rawhide given dnf just > seg faults currently? Can you use rpm to just update it lmanually? > -- > Russel. > === > Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 > 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 > London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk > > ___ > test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/VQ767YEPTUMCXRPWMNSJSAX2SJIAXVCZ/ > ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/6J4VAB2K5MAQVR6RWBHJT7GMWHG66YXG/
Re: Broken dnf from 06-30-2018
Has anyone discovered a way forward for updating Fedora Rawhide given dnf just seg faults currently? -- Russel. === Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/VQ767YEPTUMCXRPWMNSJSAX2SJIAXVCZ/
Re: Broken dnf from 06-30-2018
On Tue, 2018-07-03 at 20:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2018-07-01 at 09:19 +0100, Russel Winder wrote: > > I wonder if this > > episode indicates that there should be work done to make sure that a > > broken > > dnf can never be installed? > > How do you propose we do that? Using a two stage system: 1. take a one step back version of Fedora Rawhide and add the new dnf; then run a few tests such as "dnf check-update --refresh" and "dnf upgrade". 2. take a current version of Fedora Rawhide and add the new dnf; then run the same set of tests. This should ensure dnf dependencies are correct and that "dnf upgrade" never causes a seg fault. I would have thought the dnf people would have been doing this sort of system testing given just how important dnf is to Fedora Rawhide. To have people (it's not just me) in a situation of not being able to amend their system with dnf should I feel cause deep embarrassment to the dnf people despite the caveat emptor nature of Fedora Rawhide. -- Russel. === Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/H4XUF43BYTG5TURAS27Q2GQSGYX5DQQV/
