Re: "Basic graphics mode" feature and criterion discussion

2019-03-26 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > The justification for this is, I hope I am correctly representing all > views here (please say so if not), that this mechanism is both less > necessary (due to a general reduction in the amount of 'weird' graphics > hardware out there,

Re: F30 Testing request: "basic graphics mode" in Workstation

2019-03-12 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2019-03-06 at 12:46 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! > > So there's a current Beta blocker bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1683197 > > it is currently accepted as a blocker on the understanding that trying > to boot to Workstation in 'basic graphics mode'

Re: Unstable gnome shell F26

2017-06-22 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 16:57 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >Stack trace of thread 1456: >#0 0x7ff745e9a7bb raise > (libc.so.6) >

Re: What happened to Wayland?

2016-10-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2016-10-25 at 02:12 +0200, AV wrote: > It is no longer mentioned under Settings-Details where I now > see 'Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2)' instead > of 'Wayland...' That's intentional. The wayland session never bothered to look up the GL renderer information until now.

Re: rawhide report: 20160115 changes

2016-01-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 10:51 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: Some fallout from the glew rebase in here, none of which is strictly glew's fault as far as I can tell. > [FlightGear-Atlas] > FlightGear-Atlas-0.5.0-0.15.cvs20141002.fc24.i686 requires > libGLEW.so.1.10 Map.o: In function

Re: rawhide report: 20150815 changes

2015-08-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2015-08-15 at 11:18 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: acl-2.2.52-10.fc24 -- * Fri Aug 14 2015 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 2.2.52-10 - Remove bizarre 12 year old libtool invocation workaround that prevented hardened cflags working On this note: I'll be casually

Re: [fedora-arm] ARM release-blocking desktop changed to Xfce

2015-08-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 11:27 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: It worked in f22 but was a bit slow. Plasmashell is segfaulting and the bug filing process does not work. Do you mean: a) abrt can't figure out how to file a bug about this b) nobody can be bothered to file a bug about this c) there is

Re: rawhide report: 20141028 changes

2014-10-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 10:57 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: [dragonegg] dragonegg-3.4-0.3.rc0.fc21.i686 requires libLLVM-3.4.so dragonegg-3.4-0.3.rc0.fc21.i686 requires gcc = 0:4.8.2-14.fc21 This one's a joy. dragonegg is a gcc plugin that basically replaces the middle and

Re: i845G - X locks up machine

2014-10-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2014-10-14 at 14:10 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Adam Jackson composed on 2014-10-14 11:56 (UTC-0400): Might this be worked around via some manual acceleration option for the Intel X driver? Probably. Option AccelMethod UXA perhaps? /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-flags.conf

Re: why does perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker depend on systemtap-sdt-devel?

2014-09-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-09-10 at 12:32 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: possibly admitting my ignorance, but why does installing perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker drag in systemtap-sdt-devel? i see no logical connection, and i don't even have any systemtap packages installed. i ask since i'm working with a

Re: [DRI3] Problems on old Intel GPUs

2014-07-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-07-02 at 18:08 +0200, František Zatloukal wrote: It's difficult to run Fedora on old Intel graphics. From OpenGL 2.0 support in Mesa lot of apps and (especially wine) games became unplayable because the hardware doesn't support OpenGL 2 fully and lot of things are slower. On gen3

Re: Fwd: Re: rawhide report: 20140522 changes

2014-05-22 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2014-05-22 at 14:40 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2014 10:34:01 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: uthash-1.9.9-4.fc21 --- * Wed May 21 2014 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@fedoraproject.org 1.9.9-4 - Root package should be noarch too Please

Re: How to calculate priority for missing tests or %check

2014-02-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2014-02-28 at 23:57 +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: And FWIW no, I dont follow the there are some packages with incorrect URL, thus the field must be useless and should be removed logic here. Just to puree the horse further: I never said that. I do believe that the most valuable URL

Re: How to calculate priority for missing tests or %check

2014-02-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 16:03 +0200, Alexander Todorov wrote: Adam, just for completeness - libpciaccess doesn't seem to have a test suite. Do you mean to exclude it from the effort of creating one as well, or only exclude reports for missing %check? The latter. Btw the URL field in the

Re: How to calculate priority for missing tests or %check

2014-02-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 17:50 +0100, poma wrote: On 27.02.2014 17:24, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 16:03 +0200, Alexander Todorov wrote: ... Btw the URL field in the spec file should be updated to http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libpciaccess/ Oh yes, another useless

Re: How to calculate priority for missing tests or %check

2014-02-26 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 09:07 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: Except the kernel. Please exclude it from all of this. Also: xorg-x11-server, xorg-x11-drv-*, libdrm, libpciaccess, mesa. Any reasonable amount of testing on those is going to require more hardware access than is feasible at rpmbuild time.

Re: Nvidia driver choices

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 12:53 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:10 -0700, Lawrence E Graves wrote: I don't mean to be a pain in the ---, but there is only one choice of nvidia drivers which are 304.116. Who do I report this problem to? Given that you don't provide any

Re: Adjusting basic video driver testcase for UEFI systems

2013-07-12 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2013-07-12 at 09:06 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: But if you say 'nomodeset' on kcmdline you'll stick with efifb at runtime, so in that sense testing this is the same as with BIOS systems. The visible difference at X time is that you'll be using the fbdev driver instead of the vesa

Re: Adjusting basic video driver testcase for UEFI systems

2013-07-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 08:25 -0400, Jan Sedlak wrote: From what I read [2, 3], it seems that UEFI systems don't support VESA graphic mode. I must admit that I don't fully understand what's the state of UEFI graphic protocols (there is GOP and UGA protocols, but I don't know whether Linux

Re: Adjusting basic video driver testcase for UEFI systems

2013-07-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 13:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: As things stand, we don't really have a fallback graphics method for UEFI. False. - ajax -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Adjusting basic video driver testcase for UEFI systems

2013-07-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 13:47 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 16:28 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 13:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: As things stand, we don't really have a fallback graphics method for UEFI. False. In what way

Re: Adjusting basic video driver testcase for UEFI systems

2013-07-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 14:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: We probably need to test it more, but the impression I was getting from the bug is that we don't necessarily want to simply use 'nomodeset' as the 'standard fallback path' for UEFI, that there may be UEFI systems on which we might want

Re: Adjusting basic video driver testcase for UEFI systems

2013-07-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 15:54 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: [drm:drm_pci_agp_init] *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module. DRM: Fill_in_dev failed. Unrelated. X.log from F19 netinstl shows the fbdev driver is loaded, but there's an error finding screens: (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage during installation

2013-06-18 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:23 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: While anaconda is running an installation, gnome-shell is hogging a whole core on its own, and X is using about 25% of the other core. Is this expected? This is on baremetal, with a nouveau supported GPU: NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce

Re: lxde menu items causing X crash

2013-04-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2013-04-02 at 12:45 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: I would happily use the nouveau driver (and was using it until going to the 3.8+ kernel where it became virtually unusable with noaccel turned on) Option ShadowFB on Or try vesa instead. - ajax -- test mailing list

Re: Mesa 9.0.3 update

2013-03-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2013-03-06 at 14:50 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Well they kinda need to rethink how they are handling this due to steam and all ;) The smiley does not make this less condescending. We will be updating Mesa aggressively. I said as much on the phone to Valve last week. - ajax

Re: newer kernels can't see \ HDMI

2013-02-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2013-02-13 at 17:10 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: Does this ring a bell with anyone? I do have Xorg.0.log and /var/log/messages copied from a non-working setup. I'd like to see them. It sounds like you're falling onto the nomodeset path for some reason, given that you're seeing both I

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 10:44 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: Though it seems a bug to set the installed default mode line to nomodeset based on whether one boots up the live DVD in basic graphics mode. Better to install the settings appropriate for the hardware *plus* some kind of safe mode in the

Re: In rawhide: X server says backtraces from higher in stackI

2013-01-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2013-01-16 at 10:31 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: Rawhide gnome desktop acting up recently. Have to restart several times to get desktop that is readable. Several times screens are garbled. Here is a bit of an Xorg.0.log that may be a clue: Here's how to read this and similar

Re: Nvidia drivers

2013-01-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 18:26 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: I got the nvidia drivers to install with kernel 3.7.1-5 but now it won't compile my vmware workstation modules. This is not the list for third party driver support. - ajax -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: fc18 on eeepc 701

2012-12-20 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:43 -0800, Stephen Sheldon wrote: On 12/20/2012 10:40 AM, Jim wrote: On 12/20/2012 01:32 PM, Stephen Sheldon wrote: I upgraded my eeepc 701 to fc18 using yum. Now I cannot push a window above the top of the screen in gnome 3, either in gnome shell or fallback

Re: Gnome-shell 3.6.2-6

2012-12-19 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 05:54 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: There is a bug in the last gnome-shell update. After installing the latest updates which gnome-shell 3.6.2-6 was a part of, That's... suspicious. The only change between -5 and -6 was: === @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ rm

Re: Install of beta f18 on bl685c g1 blade freezes

2012-12-12 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 14:33 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: Tried also this way remove: quiet insert: xdriver=vesa vga=ask then selected 318 result is that I recevie error rgarding X Windows System start and when I land to text selection menu no keyboard and no Alt+Fx see screenshots

Re: Install of beta f18 on bl685c g1 blade freezes

2012-12-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 15:53 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: TC1 of final netinst.iso fails worse neither arrives at initial screen Gonna need to see an X log from this to know why it's failing, I think. If you can't extract it from the install environment, you might try installing through text

Re: TC8

2012-11-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sun, 2012-11-11 at 11:19 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Noveau crashed again. I am now running Nvidia. The release notes should clearly explain the procedure for installing the Nvidia driver. Some will need it. No, we're not doing that, ever. Stop suggesting it. - ajax

Re: Notes on testing F18 in an EFI environment

2012-11-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 14:43 -0500, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: 3) The installed system won't take to the FB X server by itself, I had to mangle a xorg.conf file to bring up an 800x600 fbdev instance and then let firstboot run on a reboot That's a bug, sir. X on efifb should work without

Re: Fedora 18: No GDM on boot.

2012-11-09 Thread Adam Jackson
On 11/8/12 7:17 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: Hi folks, My f18 system doesn't pull up a login screen on boot. It just waits. Restarting the gdm.service from a virtual terminal gets it up though, but I need to this at every boot now. Here's the gdm.service status when it didn't come up:

Re: gnome-shell high cpu consumption during install?

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 09:52 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Is anyone else seeing 100% CPU consumption in top for gnome-shell for the entire installation process? This seems excessive for something that isn't doing

Re: F18 at-spi* deps

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 20:33 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: On 25/10/12 17:01, Matthias Clasen wrote: at-spi* is not an app though. It is a central piece of desktop infrastructure. Why? Because treating those who do need accessibility as second-class citizens means they inevitably get a

Re: F18 at-spi* deps

2012-10-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 22:21 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: I agree, but I don't need it, Wheres the script to turn if off? Everone else has to figure that out themselves. accessibilty.conf has no on=0\false switch. If the F18 install I just did is any indication, the state it ships in is as off

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-10-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 10:23 +, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: The all authoritative and never wrong google search for ctrl-alt-bksp. :-) Atually, it seemed to be confirmed when I tried the various methods suggested in this thread and nothing worked until I set the xkbd option using gsettings.

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 16:05 +, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 09/27/2012 07:18 PM, Sergio wrote: Maybe the traditional way of creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/zap.conf with Section “ServerFlags” Option “DontZap” “false” EndSection ? No, this was disabled awhile ago and no longer

Re: [Test-Announce] Join Fedora X Test Week - Nouveau, Radeon, Intel (2012-09-25 - 2012-09-27)

2012-09-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On 9/24/12 8:15 PM, John Reiser wrote: If it is known that any Radeon card less than Radeon 9600 won't work satisfactorily in the default Gnome3 desktop, then Fedora should admit it up front, and raise the minimum stated requirements. I'm sure the docs team takes patches. But also: that's

Re: [Test-Announce] Join Fedora X Test Week - Nouveau, Radeon, Intel (2012-09-25 - 2012-09-27)

2012-09-24 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2012-09-24 at 13:30 -0700, John Reiser wrote: Do you have any old or new graphic hardware, working or not? Join this test week and help us to hunt down driver bugs before Fedora 18 Beta release! There is doubt about whether this particular test day is worth the time. You're free

Re: xorg IOPL issue under rawhide...can't run X

2012-09-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 19:22 -0500, kevin martin wrote: Can't run X on my laptop anymore due to the IOPL error shown below. I've also included lines from an strace of xinit that I did at this same time. Anybody with any thoughts on how to get this fixed so I can run X again? The only reason I

Re: New pre-TC4 test images

2012-08-30 Thread Adam Jackson
On 8/30/12 4:35 AM, Noriko Mizumoto wrote: I gave it try. It failed x startup and falled back to text mode. It means, unfortunately, this can not be used for L10n test which is planned on 6-Sep :-( Can you attach the X log from attempting to start with this image? I don't know what hardware

Re: Intel Graphics: SNA testing report with xorg-x11-drv-intel = 2.20

2012-08-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 15:40 +0100, Pedro Francisco wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Pedro Francisco pedrogfranci...@gmail.com wrote: I'm testing SNA on an Intel Graphics card (...) Does anyone here who is using Gnome fallback has lack of screen refreshing (using Intel SNA)?

Re: First experience with F18-ALPHA-TC1

2012-08-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On 8/15/12 2:40 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: We've discussed various ways to re-jig the structure in the past, but something that simplistic certainly isn't it. We have specific requirements for the Alpha, Beta and Final releases: they _must_ meet those requirements in order to be shipped. I

Re: First experience with F18-ALPHA-TC1

2012-08-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On 8/15/12 9:42 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: It would be far more honest to just call this alpha 1. Sorry, I don't get it - is the problem calling Alpha gold, as it's definitely not gold final release. Calling alpha gold is a problem, sure. Calling test composes something with alpha in the

Re: First experience with F18-ALPHA-TC1

2012-08-14 Thread Adam Jackson
On 8/13/12 10:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: It is a test compose of the Alpha. Alpha comes before Beta which comes before Final. For each of Alpha, Beta and Final, we do test composes and then release candidates. The first test compose of the Alpha is by definition the earliest and most

Re: Anaconda new UI testing: new snapshot available

2012-07-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On 7/17/12 12:50 PM, Felix Miata wrote: This new way is akin to how Mandriva/Mageia (and IIRC *buntu) do it, which is one area where I preferred what Anaconda did. I want my users set up with my choice of UIDs/GIDs, which M/M wouldn't permit, and presumably Anaconda now doesn't. I only create

Re: Anaconda new UI testing: new snapshot available

2012-07-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On 7/17/12 2:58 PM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/07/17 13:46 (GMT-0400) Adam Jackson composed: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Kickstart#user Thanks! That's nice, for people who use Kickstart. I don't, for a mix of reasons. I might be inclined to try Kickstart someday but for http

Re: not able to boot Rawhide 3.5.0-0.rc4 kernels in runlevel 3

2012-06-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 15:06 +, Andre Robatino wrote: Kevin Martin ktmdms at gmail.com writes: You may be running into the same problem that I have. Check out this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=830916 Should have mentioned that my Rawhide is a VirtualBox

Re: not able to boot Rawhide 3.5.0-0.rc4 kernels in runlevel 3

2012-06-27 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2012-06-27 at 16:10 +, Andre Robatino wrote: Adam Jackson ajax at redhat.com writes: Should have mentioned that my Rawhide is a VirtualBox 4.1.18 guest (which uses the vesa driver). Nope: I booted in graphical mode, then when the black screen

Re: F17 Gallium 0.4 on NV34 and Mesa 8.1-devel

2012-06-20 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:37 -0400, mwesten wrote: [10432.323596] [drm] nouveau :01:04.0: PGRAPH - ERROR nsource: DATA_ERROR nstatus: BAD_ARGUMENT [10432.323612] [drm] nouveau :01:04.0: PGRAPH - ch 3/7 class 0x0697 mthd 0x0208 data 0x04050348 Driver bug. Probably best to follow up

Re: Gnome screenshot tool issues

2012-05-29 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 17:34 +0530, Pratyush Sahay wrote: Hi Joachim, On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 05/26/2012 10:56 AM, Pratyush Sahay wrote: There are a couple of issues am facing with the gnome screenshot

Re: f17 and ATI RAGE128

2012-05-29 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 20:22 -0700, John Reiser wrote: Peter, how in general do you want to proceed where we have documented cases of graphics mode setting failure in grub2? Do you want individual bug reports for each affected bit of hardware? Downstream, upstream? What kind of info should

Re: F17 Geforce GTX 550Ti

2012-05-29 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sun, 2012-05-27 at 01:35 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Got this new card today and it seems not to work with F17. I got it installed and tried all the slots, which include HDMI, dvi, and nothing worked. It does during BIOS boot and in windows, so it's installed correctly. I also got it to

Re: GDM: (F17, all updates) When I try to log in, login fails and I get switched to a different VT

2012-05-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 07:42 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: On 05/21/2012 07:30 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: I can't find anything in /var/log/messages, dmesg output, ~/.xsession-errors, or /var/log/Xorg.0.log to explain this. I have auto-login configured, and if I reboot my machine, I _am_

Re: Nomodeset in grub

2012-05-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/15/12 3:53 AM, A.J. Werkman wrote: I freshly installed F17-TC5, changed gfxpayload to text and added nomodeset to the boot options. Then I rebuild the grub config-file with grub2-mkconfig. Indeed I now have a 80*25 text screen on the console when I boot. In /sys/class/drm I do see

Re: Nomodeset in grub

2012-05-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/15/12 2:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know what his use case is, but I set this up recently as well. I have an HP server with ILO with lets me remotely view the console. However, they require a license if you want to view it in graphical mode. Someone at HP needs a stern talking to,

Re: Nomodeset in grub

2012-05-11 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/11/12 2:35 AM, A.J. Werkman wrote: I noticed, that as soon as grub comes up in graphical mode, the nomodeset boot option has no effect in F17. Is this a bug or a feature or is there a new option I am not aware off? You're going to need to be more specific than that. The kernel

Re: GMA500 vs. G3 software render

2012-05-03 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/3/12 7:36 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 13:21 +0200, Adam Pribyl wrote: While I consider the latest development on gma500, present in many Atom base netbooks, a great success and would like to say thank you to developer(s), When you say latest development, what exactly

Re: Weird Firefox performance issue

2012-05-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/1/12 6:09 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2012 15:51:08 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: - xulrunner maybe shouldn't assert PRIMARY ownership in this case That's the point for me: What on earth in the bookmarks sidebar needs or wants the selection? And it is a super long delay just

Re: Weird Firefox performance issue

2012-05-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 14:22 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 1 May 2012 14:11:15 -0400 Bill Nottingham wrote: In my experience, extremely slow FF performance is usually due to writing out either the assorted sqlite data files in the profile directory, or the big javascript pile that is

Re: setting default monitor on multi-monitor setup

2012-04-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 18:57 +0800, Frederic Muller wrote: On 04/21/2012 11:53 AM, Tommy Pham wrote: I'd like to have my VGA as primary and DVI as secondary. I can't seem to adapt [1] to make fit my hardware above. Create a text file which will go in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and will start

Re: gnome-shell cpu usage, audio, opengl - work fine only as root

2012-04-19 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 13:01 +0200, Saulo Bonfim wrote: Hi all, first post to the list. Using FC17, recently updated (ran yum update yesterday) on a i3 2.13GHz HP G62 First issue: as of its installation (3 weeks ago) noticed a high cpu consumption of the gnome-shell process (circa 30%

Re: Launching WINE causes screen flicker in Screen#2 on a dual-head setup..

2012-04-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 11:04 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: When I launch any win32 app under WINE the screen flickers for about 2 seconds, but only on the 2nd display. Then it returns to normal. As soon as the win32 app launches, I can work with it just fine, move it between displays, and

Re: F17 video annoyances, old hardware

2012-03-30 Thread Adam Jackson
On 3/30/12 10:46 AM, stan wrote: F17 boots using nouveau for my old Nvidia hardware (MX420). There are two problems with this for me. - nouveau doesn't allow different resolutions on consoles and gui. Why do you want this? If the console text is unreadably small for you, would simply

Re: [Test-Announce] Test Day 2012-03-29: GNOME Shell Software Rendering

2012-03-28 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 08:25 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: There will be a GNOME Shell Software Rendering Test Day on Thursday! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-03-29_Gnome_Shell_Software_Rendering I've updated the How to test section with more details on exactly what kind of coverage

Re: Weird rawhide desktop behavior

2012-03-26 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2012-03-24 at 11:58 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: Here's a strange pathology that just bit me for the first time in a while, though I've seen it before. I'm not sure where to file a bug on this one... There's several levels of X locked up pathology, let's see if I can shed some light

Re: Multiseat on F17 alpha

2012-03-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 12:07 +0200, Zoltan Szecsei wrote: Hi, I heard that F17 will support multiseat, so I've just installed the alpha. Is there a HOWTO for this, or do I just edit custom.conf in /etc/gdm and create an xorg.conf in /etc/X11? I have an Ubuntu (hence debian) background and

Re: A question about Software rendering for gnome-shell

2012-03-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 13:01 -0500, mwesten wrote: I set this up on the Alpha release and the results are below. I'm assuming there's something wrong with that top entry, but I don't know how to fix it. Events: 50K cycles 55.99% gnome-shell perf-6425.map [.]

Re: Can't start acroread in F17/Alpha

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 09:21 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote: Did somebody try to run acroread in F17? I did it and got as result: acroread /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.0.9.8: cannot enable executable stack as shared

Re: A question about Software rendering for gnome-shell

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 08:44 -0500, mwesten wrote: Fedora-17-Alpha-i686-Live-Desktop.iso (RC2) on USB 2.13GHz AthlonXP 2600+ / RV200 (Radeon 7500) / 1280x1024 Fallback mode is fine, but once the shell starts, it's a battle just to get System Monitor open and to the Resources tab. Once

Re: VirtualBox and test releases

2012-02-23 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 16:00 -0500, Claude Jones wrote: I'm trying to test Fedora 17 RC4 in a Virtual Box environment. I had problems doing this with F16 as well. It is up and running, but tortuously slow. I noticed that it complained when I was installing the guest additions about the

Re: A question about Software rendering for gnome-shell

2012-02-22 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 16:35 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: This particular one is a 64-bit (albeit quite old) processor: vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family: 15 model : 5 model name: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 142 stepping : 1 cpu MHz : 1600.062

Re: A question about Software rendering for gnome-shell

2012-02-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 23:52 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: At https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome_shell_software_rendering I am reading The standard Gnome 3 experience is now available on all hardware. Is this a plan, a wish or this is supposedly describing the current situation?

Re: A question about Software rendering for gnome-shell

2012-02-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 12:08 -0500, mwesten wrote: FYI - I can get the shell with this on RV200 in F17ARC2 (Live), but the processor gets pegged at 100% continuously and it's not usable. Performance reports for software gnome-shell need to include the CPU speed and model to be informative.

Re: A question about Software rendering for gnome-shell

2012-02-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 13:10 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: Running 'LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 gnome-shell --replace', as proposed by drago01, indeed starts an intended mode gnome session, both before and after installing these scratch packages, but results are spectacularly useless.

Re: f 17 netinst.iso in virtualbox 4.1.8

2012-02-08 Thread Adam Jackson
On 2/7/12 1:25 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On 2/6/12 1:36 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785652 . This problem has existed for months in Rawhide. It seems that the vesa driver (which VirtualBox uses) is broken. I'm aware, vesa's actually broken on intel

Re: f 17 netinst.iso in virtualbox 4.1.8

2012-02-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On 2/6/12 1:36 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=785652 . This problem has existed for months in Rawhide. It seems that the vesa driver (which VirtualBox uses) is broken. I'm aware, vesa's actually broken on intel chips too. I've got one fix that can

Re: xserver restarting with certain usb events

2011-12-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On 12/7/11 12:20 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 12/06/2011 12:35 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On 12/6/11 11:27 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: [ 428.783] Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. This message is there for a reason. It means the X server is terminating normally, ie, because

Re: xserver restarting with certain usb events

2011-12-06 Thread Adam Jackson
On 12/6/11 11:27 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: [ 428.783] Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. This message is there for a reason. It means the X server is terminating normally, ie, because the session has gone away. Check in ~/.xsession-errors for relevant messages, or in

Re: Todays yum dependency update issues....

2011-11-30 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 10:37 -0600, Kevin Martin wrote: What's with the xserver-abi dependency problem (ie: xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.3.0-11.fc17.x86_64 requires: xserver-abi(ansic-2009) = 0 -- Processing Dependency: xserver-abi(ansic-2009) = 0 for package:

Re: sometimes sighup needed for gnome-shell

2011-11-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 12:11 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: If you debuginfo-install gnome-shell, attach with gdb instead of sending SIGHUP, and run 'thread apply all backtrace', what do you get? As MJ whould have said

Re: sometimes sighup needed for gnome-shell

2011-11-21 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 18:22 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: [snip] So my next intuition would be to gdb the X server and see what's up. If you find it waiting patiently on a call to select(), then the second case is more likely

Re: sometimes sighup needed for gnome-shell

2011-11-18 Thread Adam Jackson
On 11/18/11 9:44 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: Sometimes (latest days at least one time a day), the gnome session goes unusable: I'm able to move mouse, but when selecting a menu item it is greyed but no drop down of its options appears, no alt-tab or alt-f2 possibility Only way to come

Re: vlc and rtsp-videos in F16?

2011-10-25 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 18:57 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, I tried to play a RTSP video stream by vlc-1.1.12-1.fc16.x86_64, but did not succeed: vlc http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/cgi-bin/mml/allfilms.ram?ram=http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/mml/galerie/Ram/neunzert_werth.ram; main decoder

Re: F15 email

2011-10-24 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2011-10-22 at 03:10 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Seems to be working at omen.com now after adjusting for a few FLAG DAY changes. The new Dovecot drops a few protocols that were in the old one, so email clients have to be adjusted. If you wanted this to be a useful

Re: failed to create drawable

2011-10-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 09:05 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Bottom of ~/.xsession-errors: Failed to play sound: File or data not found JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Sat Oct 15 2011 09:00:52 GMT+0200 (CEST) failed to create drawable After logging out and back in, desktop

Re: rhgb boot - monitor losing signal (sometimes)

2011-10-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sun, 2011-10-09 at 17:26 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: Shortly before the Plymouth LUKS passphrase prompt, the screen turns black, the monitor reports No signal and enters power-saving mode. The system hasn't crashed, because instead of pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del I can also enter the

Re: F16 Beta on Pentium III

2011-10-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 00:08 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: I tried an ATI card and a Matrox card without success. ATI and Matrox have both made rather more than one card, so that's not especially useful information. - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: f 16 beta in virtualbox

2011-10-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 20:04 -0400, David wrote: There are some users that have older monitors that to not identify themselves so that the resolution is not properly set. With a true install or an install in a VDI. *Most* of those can never be set to higher resolutions because

Re: f 16 beta in virtualbox

2011-10-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 11:43 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 11:32 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: RANDR 1.2 has the ability to set arbitrary video modes at runtime. I admit Gnome's display tool doesn't expose that, but I'm comfortable saying that's Gnome's bug. What does

Re: f 16 beta in virtualbox

2011-10-04 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 17:03 -0400, David wrote: The 'advanced graphics' video feature in Virtualbox seldom works in Rawhide and the current 'branched' package (currently Fedora 16) because Virtualbox does not support alpha/beta/non-release versions of Xorg. F16 has xserver 1.11.1. I don't

Re: Fedora 16 beta vice Knoppix

2011-10-04 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 20:54 +, JB wrote: Hi, I performed a simple home test, a comparison of startup and shutdown times of: - Live-CD Fedora 16 beta - systemd parallel boot, GNOME 3 Cool story. Have you tried using systemd's built-in boot profiling infrastructure to see where this time

Re: Some notes from fallback mode

2011-09-22 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 15:43 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200 Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, it could be much more productive if you also evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 development. Sigh. I've been running Rawhide

Re: Remove a package from critpath ?

2011-09-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 09:57 -0600, Eric Blake wrote: On 09/16/2011 09:56 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 10:33 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: Dne 15.9.2011 21:38, Adam Jackson napsal(a): If someone wants to send me

Re: Remove a package from critpath ?

2011-09-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 13:10 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Given that critpath is currently done solely by dependency resolution of certain comps groups, 'excluding' a package isn't really possible. If you look at the group, you'll note: !-- Just the mandatory packages from base-x.

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