Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Murphy
/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4491 And this is the URL for the blocker bug tracking page: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/21/alpha/buglist Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Chris Murphy
, same problem. Today? Different results. Lovely. Tim, my FAS credentials don't work on phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org so I can't close the bug myself. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: phabricator login, was: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Chris Murphy
I tried this) but it's something about needing to have a redhat.com bugzilla account associated with the FAS account? So I switched the FAS email back because my RHBZ account uses bugzi...@colorremedies.com. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-08-26 Thread Chris Murphy
, xfs, fat, ntfs, possibly reiserfs (?). Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-08-31 Thread Chris Murphy
, and it leaves room for distros to agree on a (variant of ) BootloaderSpec. If there isn't the collective will to fix design flaws with GRUB2, I don't see how it can be effective to achieve this on the back end with one distro's release criteria. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 31, 2014, at 11:04 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sun, 2014-08-31 at 18:29 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: Note that we're heavily dependent on upstream code, here - we basically farm the bootloader detection of other OSes out to grub2, which is what other

livecd failing media check

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Murphy
I have this from today: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7509031 Where do I find the checksum for this ISO? Once dd'd to two different USB sticks, it fails the boot time media check. So either two downloads are bad, or two sticks are bad, or we have a bug. Chris Murphy

Re: livecd failing media check

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: I have this from today: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7509031 Where do I find the checksum for this ISO? Once dd'd to two different USB sticks, it fails the boot time media check. So either two

Re: livecd failing media check

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Murphy
OK so I downloaded TC5 and I have the same problem: - the downloaded ISO checksum matches the published one - when dd'd to multiple USB sticks, it fails rd.live.check And yet in a VM the image passes rd.live.check. Weird. Bit of a WTF moment here. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test

Re: livecd failing media check

2014-09-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 2, 2014, at 1:23 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: OK so I downloaded TC5 and I have the same problem: - the downloaded ISO checksum matches the published one - when dd'd to multiple USB sticks, it fails rd.live.check And yet in a VM the image passes rd.live.check

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Murphy
bootloader bugs or design limitations. } Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Murphy
Linux would not get boot entries for that Linux instance; violating the Linux + Fedora criteria if there's also no OS X on the system. But a Mac without OS X? Rare. Option b: Patch /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober deleting just the OS X entries creation. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 8, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: { The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an existing OS X installation, install and configure a bootloader that will boot Fedora; and if offered, also boot OS X. } Revision to if offered

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-12 Thread Chris Murphy
a 2 year old bug, let's squash it. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

updated kernel not used by default

2014-09-13 Thread Chris Murphy
Got a bug where the upgraded kernel isn't being booted by default. I'm not exactly sure why, or what release criteria to use, so I set it to final based on it being a security concern. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141414 Chris Murphy-- test mailing list test

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 13, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/12/2014 08:18 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sep 10, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Tom Horsleyhorsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:16:18 -0400 Gene Czarcinski wrote: Personally, I do not use os-prober

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 18:18 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: And then also propose that bug for Fedora 21 beta freeze exception. It's virtually certain it'd pass. I mean, it probably could be incorporated without

Re: updated kernel not used by default

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 14, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Joshua Andrews woodguy552...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Got a bug where the upgraded kernel isn't being booted by default. I'm not exactly sure why, or what release criteria to use, so I

Re: updated kernel not used by default

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 14, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Grrr…. From the anaconda program.log I find a number of commands issued after all the grub stuff including this line. So I run each of those manually, interlaced with grub2-editenv list. Nothing changes, it's still

Re: updated kernel not used by default

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 14, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:08:24 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: So I run each of those manually, interlaced with grub2-editenv list. Nothing changes Maybe you could arrange to make grubenv immutable and see when someone barfs

Re: updated kernel not used by default

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 14, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Now what are the odds that grubby touches grub.cfg at 17:26:41 and has touched grubenv at the exact same time? I think the odds are high grubby is doing this. But for whatever reason there's a state change that causes

Re: updated kernel not used by default

2014-09-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 14, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Fred Smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:51:29PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sep 14, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Joshua Andrews woodguy552...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com

F20 - F21 test matrix and scope

2014-09-15 Thread Chris Murphy
-environment' conversion after doing the upgrade? Presumably it'd be for final release, but there's some float between final go/no-go and actual release day. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Did I miss an announcement?

2014-09-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Gene Czarcinski gczarcin...@gmail.com wrote: Have I missed some sort of announcement concerning the distribution packaging changes starting with Fedora 21? Where is the equivalent of this

Re: F20 - F21 test matrix and scope

2014-09-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:14 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-15 at 15:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: For reference: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-September/010657.html I'm uncertain what this means for F20-F21 testing scope

Re: Installing btrfs file system on Fedora 21 Workstation

2014-09-25 Thread Chris Murphy
subvolume on the same Btrfs volume. Right now it's still the case that /boot can't be on Btrfs. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
on a handful of layouts (probably fat chance at that) or on a self-describing system that allows arbitrary yet sane layouts. But right now distros are comfortable stepping on each others tails (sometimes their own). Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

netinst Software Selection incorrect

2014-10-15 Thread Chris Murphy
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1146306 Seems to me this should be a release blocking bug, but I'm not sure of an applicable criterion. Still happens with Fedora-Workstation-netinst-x86_64-21_Beta_TC3.iso Chris Murphy-- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

finding install media SRPMS versions

2014-10-15 Thread Chris Murphy
without it. There's actually a whole pile of RPMs not listed in Workstation's SRPMS folders that are listed for Server and Cloud. I don't get it. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Windows 8.1 and F21, BIOS in UEFI Mode

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Murphy
an external sata disk to try. Sounds like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024169 so I'd check that the firmware for the system is current. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Windows 8.1 and F21, BIOS in UEFI Mode

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Murphy
to to improve Fedora's Secure Boot support (or Linux in general). Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Windows 8.1 and F21, BIOS in UEFI Mode

2014-10-20 Thread Chris Murphy
a bugzilla and attach all relevant information: make/model and firmware revision of the hardware, the error message(s). File against shim. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Grub and something called ZISD

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Murphy
I suggest searching or paying on grub-help@ and maybe their devel list what ZISD is. Funny though GRUB suggests others not use what GRUB usurps. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F21: Dare I ask about /boot on a btrfs subvolume?

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Murphy
. grubby get confused. You have to start with a correct grub.cfg made by grub2-mkconfig for grubby to work in any case; including Gene's version that's Btrfs subvolume aware. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

fedup warnings

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Murphy
I'm following this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_upgrade_fedup_cli_previous_desktop Except that I started with an updated F20 infrastructure server packageset installation, not previous desktop. Here's what I get, let me know if any of these need bugs filed. So far it's

Re: fedup warnings

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Murphy
OK yeah, this sounds rather dire at the end, but is beyond confusing… x requires x, y requires y, z requires z. Umm what? WARNING: problems were encountered during transaction test: broken dependencies NetworkManager-wifi-1:0.9.10.0-5.git20140704.fc21.x86_64 requires

Re: fedup warnings

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 28, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: Continue with the upgrade at your own risk. I rebooted, chose System Upgrade (fedup), it started the upgrade, and I walked away. When I came back 30 minutes later the laptop had powered off which seems odd. On cold

Re: fedup warnings

2014-10-28 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 28, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: I guess I'll try it again… I get the same warnings as previously reported. But this time the reboot fedup environment installs everything, I get a 3.17.1 kernel, and all the right version badging on the subsequent post

Re: fedup warnings

2014-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
that next go around. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: fedup warnings

2014-10-29 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 29, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 10:31 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Adam Williamson adamw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: This shouldn't be a huge issue for non-testers because by the same we

Re: F21 Grub Issues

2014-11-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Bidski bid...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi all, I am having an issue getting F21 to dual boot with Windows 7 on an EFI system. The first thing I did was to install Windows 7. This worked fine and had no issues. Then I installed F21 from a LiveUSB. After some

Re: Mounting XFS with discard option only works for /boot but not /

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
queuable trim then it should be fine to set. Otherwise you're better off with a weekly cron issuing fstrim. -- Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Mounting XFS with discard option only works for /boot but not /

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
a repeat of what's in fstab (typically). -- Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Mounting XFS with discard option only works for /boot but not /

2014-11-23 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote: On 11/23/2014 05:23 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: What's odd is that I'm certain discard worked for root on Btrfs, so I wonder if this remount limitation is XFS only or if it applies to any filesystem? In which case, how

Re: Read-Only filesystem error

2014-11-24 Thread Chris Murphy
very possibly a hardware bug). -- Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: F21 TC4 Server netinst hangs at Probing Storage

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Murphy
commands as a comment. Maybe someone can figure out what's blocked, or otherwise misbehaving, if it's kernel related. -- Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

fstrim.timer, was: Mounting XFS with discard option only works for /boot but not /

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Murphy
AccuracySec=1h Persistent=true [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target [root@f21s ~]# cat /usr/lib/systemd/system/fstrim.service [Unit] Description=Discard unused blocks [Service] Type=oneshot ExecStart=/usr/sbin/fstrim -a Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F21 TC4 Server netinst hangs at Probing Storage

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: On 11/25/2014 05:36 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Maybe this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722 maybe. Try to provide any information you can. Same hang when I boot from the Server install

Re: F21 TC4 Server netinst hangs at Probing Storage

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Murphy
, which dumps to kernel message. That is, those echo commands won't actually appear to do anything. Their result is in dmesg. -- Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

journalctl missing early boot entries

2014-12-01 Thread Chris Murphy
this? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169269 -- Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: First experience with F18-ALPHA-TC1

2012-08-15 Thread Chris Murphy
be BTest1, BTest2, BTest3, and the last one, which meats beta release criteria, it is renamed to Beta? *shrug* OK. I am however confused on the distinction between TC's and RC's. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now!

2012-08-16 Thread Chris Murphy
have a link to screenshot here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3253801/F18alphaTC2textinstallnopartitionfail.png Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Fedora 18 Alpha (TC2) anaconda fail

2012-08-16 Thread Chris Murphy
WAS: Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 18 Alpha Test Compose 2 (TC2) Available Now! On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I am not. Upon choosing a completely unformatted/unpartitioned disk, anaconda appears to implode and the VM reboots. If the disk is partitioned in advance

Re: The new installer

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Murphy
/NewInstallerUI Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

F18 RC2 erratic GUI in VBox, missing installer window

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Murphy
options. Choosing one gets me to the hub and choosing the other gets me back to the MIA child (partitioning in this case) window. Crisis averted. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: LVM in the new Anaconda

2012-09-14 Thread Chris Murphy
, and I haven't explored kickstart enough to know if I can tell it to just target an existing configuration without modification, or if it's going to get fussy about this too. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: LVM in the new Anaconda

2012-09-14 Thread Chris Murphy
, that has some significant changes with respect to btrfs at least and I suspect other areas as well. https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2012-September/msg00029.html Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Another Fedora 18 Alpha story

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: No partitions would be a hint of a GPT partitioning scheme. A protective MBR would still be in place and identify a single partition, type 0xEE, and that would still be visible. Rather than no partitions. Chris Murphy -- test mailing

Re: Another Fedora 18 Alpha story

2012-09-18 Thread Chris Murphy
manufacturers use 10^12 instead of 2^40 for terabytes, the problem doesn't reveal itself in the real world until you get to disks labeled as 2.5TB or larger. They not all that big in a gaming, dual booting, or photography context. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: initial F18-alpha reaction

2012-09-20 Thread Chris Murphy
the door, is my understanding. A lot of changes to come in beta, is what I'm expecting. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewInstallerUI I think we're after merging, so reversion at this point is probably impractically more work. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test

Re: F17 installation on an Apple Macbook Pro

2012-09-24 Thread Chris Murphy
OS. A small limitation is that the HFS+ bootloader partition is named Untitled in the Mac OS GUI. You can rename it if you want with no ill effect. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-09-28 Thread Chris Murphy
results indicate FreeBSD is on hd0,msdos1. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-09-28 Thread Chris Murphy
, for the MBR gap in which GRUB2 is inserted. Modern tools start partition 1 at 2048. So one of these days this might become an issue, i.e. if you use LVM or btrfs, GRUBs core.img will get too big to be stuffed into merely 61 sectors. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: how to enable ssh?

2012-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
install and it wasn't included so I had to install it. But then 'systemctl enable sshd.service' followed by 'systemctl start sshd.service' worked. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: newer kernels not shown in grub2 menu

2012-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 28, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear folks, running Fedora 18 alpha and have seen new kernel releases, but the older kernel still boots :( How can one make sure that the lastest kernel is booted? I don't know

Re: how to enable ssh?

2012-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
, OpenSSH wasn't installed by default so I had to install it first. What do you get for systemctl status sshd.service Chris Murphy-- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
requirements related to anaconda for F18. So even if F18 ends up being a regression in this respect, I'm willing to bite that bullet for another 6 months. *shrug* Chris Murphy [1] For the record, since this is a court of law, I point out that neither Windows nor Mac OS installers format

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 10/01/2012 06:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm very hesitant to expand release requirements related to anaconda for F18. Should it not be sufficient for us to have our release criteria be on par what other os installers ( Like

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
. That seems kind of excessively specific for a release criterion, maybe? I agree that newUI should probably do it, though - have you filed an RFE? I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it should be a release requirement for F18. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
to. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: On 10/01/2012 11:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it should be a release requirement for F18. Disk partitioning resembles open heart surgery. The patient

Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
there was one for F17, but then firewalld was reverted back to iptables before final. I'm wondering if firewalld needs another test day since this is going to be its first Fedora release instead of iptables? Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Murphy
of the daemon aren't needed for behavior changes to be applied, unlike iptables. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-10-02 Thread Chris Murphy
In /boot/grub2 do you have a grub.cfg.new? Compare cfg with cfg.new, does new have all kernels but cfg doesn't? Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-10-03 Thread Chris Murphy
then is what GRUB is actually being used as a bootloader and where is it pointing? The grub bootloader has a prefix baked into it, so that is the likely source of the problem. I would try running: grub2-install /dev/sda And then report back. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-10-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 4, 2012, at 6:20 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: I ran that command and now I have the newer kernel which only appears not the older ones. How many kernels should appear here? As many as appear in /boot Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Fedora 18 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2012-10-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 4, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 22:11 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 06:17:54PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: I don't see why it can't be UTC with no timezone offset however, because ultimately local is subjective. I myself tend

grubby is not updating grub.cfg

2012-10-07 Thread Chris Murphy
Installing : kernel-3.6.0-3.fc18.x86_64 96/190 grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template The new kernel is not added to the grub.cfg. This is grubby-8.20-1.fc18.x86_64. Anyone else seeing this? Chris Murphy -- test

Re: grubby is not updating grub.cfg

2012-10-07 Thread Chris Murphy
as a kernel parameter. So I'm not sure what part it's getting hung up on. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: grubby is not updating grub.cfg when /boot is btrfs

2012-10-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Oct 7, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Oct 7, 2012, at 7:32 AM, John Reiser wrote: Installing : kernel-3.6.0-3.fc18.x86_64 96/190 grubby fatal error: unable

Re: Review of Fedora 18 Release Criteria

2012-10-09 Thread Chris Murphy
criterion reads: If there is an embedded checksum on any release medium, it must be correct Also it seems a small problem to have a requirement for an increasing number of cases where a memory test utility does not exist. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: nouveau, Nvidia GTX 460 SE

2012-10-09 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 9, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: Did a netinstall of TC3 on a Core I5 system with an Nvidia GTX 460 SE. Looks similar to: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860477 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe:

Re: removing the non booting kernels how do I troubleshoot them?

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
I don't understand the question, or the problem. Removing kernels doesn't seem like it will help you troubleshoot them. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: removing the non booting kernels how do I troubleshoot them?

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
the question, or the problem. Removing kernels doesn't seem like it will help you troubleshoot them. Chris Murphy -- The problem is that non of those kernels work! The only one that boots is the one that is output from `uname -r`. I removed them and I can add them at any time

Re: removing the non booting kernels how do I troubleshoot them?

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
:/#_ and it just sits there. Very much like the TC3 and Nightly Build LiveCDs which I have tested :( Oh that sounds like you hit a dracut bug. If you rebuild their initramfs files with the current dracut then they will probably work. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test

Re: Review of Fedora 18 Release Criteria

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
not, in my view, be dicking around with reviewers trying to infer why a bug was proposed as blocker. I'd relegate such bugs to last call or see those bumped to an unscheduled day. Something like that. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: Review of Fedora 18 Release Criteria

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
of blockers on the one hand by reducing obscurity for proposing them; while also ensuring some minimum amount of justification for the proposal in the first place. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

manual partitioning Apply Changes button

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
This button is new in TC3. But appears to be superfluous in that it does nothing (yet?), but more importantly I don't understand why it would even be needed. Would anyone like to address my confusion? Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: manual partitioning Apply Changes button

2012-10-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 17:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: This button is new in TC3. But appears to be superfluous in that it does nothing (yet?), but more importantly I don't understand why it would even be needed. Would anyone like

Re: Review of Fedora 18 Release Criteria

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
include of a concise explanation of the operational or user experience consequences of this bug. 3. Click the Save Changes button. The NTH section on proposing probably needs a similar update. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

F18 beta TC3, installer GUI redraw weirdness

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
. Is the metadata that anaconda downloads for netinstall possibly affecting how this portion of the UI is drawn? File a bug against anaconda or is this in the realm of really obvious someone must see it? Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
, the installer must allow removal of user selected partitions. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
, compared to RAID 5. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 11, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: For Beta? Is it really sufficiently crucial that RAID-10 work in Beta that we would delay the release until it does? No, but using that logic I'd demote RAID 5 too. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 11, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: The installer's automatic partitioning must create a functioning partition layout using disk free space, for disks with a valid mbr or gpt disklabel. Pre-existing partitions, and their contents, must remain unmodified, and the bootloader

Re: VM date/time synchronization with host

2012-10-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 14, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: Chris Murphy lists at colorremedies.com writes: What is the correct behavior of date/time synchronization between host and a VM? With VirtualBox, if you have the guest additions installed, it should automatically synchronize the guest

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Murphy
, virtualize. Especially when testing. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Partitioning criteria revision proposal (and btrfs)

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Murphy
have parity with md so long as that raid level is offered in the UI. If some unforeseen weirdness pops up, I think the feature should be removed from the UI. Ergo, if offered, it should work. If it doesn't work, don't offer it. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: removing the non booting kernels how do I troubleshoot them?

2012-10-18 Thread Chris Murphy
information on exactly where the oops or panic occurred, if that's even what's happening. Be prepared to take photos of your screen if you can't dump text to a network or USB stick - no one can infer what problem you're having without more information. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test

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