On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why
2012/4/19 Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: It shows up in the file
manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 10:23 +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
2. I have a plugged-in USB disk and I am at the physical console
however I need to find the name of my USB disk in the folder list
and click on it before I can use any files on it
This is what I personally object to, and I suspect
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:15 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
OK, so I took a look at the GNOME Disks utility, which I was finally
able to get to run without crashing, and as far as I can tell, it
doesn't resolve my main complaint with the new F17 behavior.
Yes, I can use the Disks utility to
On 04/18/2012 01:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
If you set a specific mount location for a device in that tool - i.e. in
fstab - it will be used even if the device is connected after login.
Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
If it is the position of the Fedora developers that
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /run/media/$USER
is the right place for stuff to be mounted, and I don't have a
particular problem with that decision, then I
Three use cases in which in my opinion the behavior is clearly incorrect:
Case 1:
1. Put DVD in drive while logged in. DVD is mounted.
2. Reboot computer and log back in. DVD is not mounted. It should be.
Case 2:
1. Put DVD in drive before logging in. DVD is not mounted.
2. Log in. DVD is
If I plug it in while I'm logged in, it shows up. I log out and log back in,
and it still shows up.
If I reboot, plug it in during GDM, and then log in... it shows up. Under
what circumstance does it not show up for you?
If your USB stick is plugged in before you boot your system, where does it
Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said:
If I plug it in while I'm logged in, it shows up. I log out and log back in,
and it still shows up.
If I reboot, plug it in during GDM, and then log in... it shows up. Under
what circumstance does it not show up for you?
Aha, for this last one
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why should F17 behave differently from F17 and from every other
mainstream OS people are familiar with?
What
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jonathan Kamens j...@kamens.us wrote:
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why should F17 behave
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 14:40 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /run/media/$USER
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why should F17 behave differently from
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The arguments are really going downhill here. I'm not overly interested
in wading into this, but I'll just say that whenever we do something
automatically, somebody will get mad. In the past, auto-mounting (and
even just automatically
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 03:26 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:38 -0400, Ma
Honestly, I'm not sure there's any difference at all between 'mount on
attach' and 'mount on any attempt to access' from a security POV.
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
FWIW, as KDE user I'm happy to note that this seems to be a GNOME thing.
:-)
The KDE automount framework hasn't been ported to udisks2 yet. It's
still using udisks.
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On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the
external USB drive MyBackupDrive will be hooked up as
/media/MyBackupDrive no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
Phooey.
Just put an entry in /etc/fstab .
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 09:42 -0600, Pete wrote:
On 04/13/2012 07:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Ankur Sinha (sanjay.an...@gmail.com) said:
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hello,
I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
though:
my USB
snippy
Or perhaps the system could keep track of mounted devices and when the
computer enters the same state as it was in when the device was
previously mounted, mount it again automatically.
In other words, If device x is mounted for $USER, and $USER logs
out or the system reboots while
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 19:42 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
I just dug in. You can use the disks utility in gnome3 to mark your
partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you
want to mount them, properties etc.
I think this should be somewhere in the release notes too. The
On 04/17/2012 10:12 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
I just dug in. You can use the disks utility in gnome3 to mark your
partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you
want to mount them, properties etc.
Would love to give that a try. Unfortunately, it coredumps for me on
startup.
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 18:28 -0400, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
O
This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the
external USB drive MyBackupDrive will be hooked up as
/media/MyBackupDrive no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
Phooey.
That ain't all that will get
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:54 -0500, John Morris wrote:
If something like this is going to work for everyone there should be a
way to pick on a per device or port basis how the device should be
handled.
There is, and has been for decades. It's called /etc/fstab . Really,
seriously: whether we
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:54 -0500, John Morris wrote:
If something like this is going to work for everyone there should be a
way to pick on a per device or port basis how the device should be
handled.
There is, and has been for decades. It's called /etc/fstab . Really,
seriously: whether we
On 04/13/2012 07:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Ankur Sinha (sanjay.an...@gmail.com) said:
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hello,
I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
though:
my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no
Jonathan Kamens (j...@kamens.us) said:
It is absurdly unpredictable that if I stick a DVD in my drive after
logging in, it is mounted underneath /run/media/$USER, but if my
computer than crashes, or I reboot it by hand, and I log in
immediately after the reboot, that DVD is no longer mounted.
On 4/16/2012 2:09 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Jonathan Kamens (j...@kamens.us) said:
It is absurdly unpredictable that if I stick a DVD in my drive after
logging in, it is mounted underneath /run/media/$USER, but if my
computer than crashes, or I reboot it by hand, and I log in
immediately after
On 04/13/2012 09:39 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hello,
I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
though:
my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
some light on this?
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume
the
external USB drive MyBackupDrive will be hooked up as
/media/MyBackupDrive no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
Phooey.
I have the same issue. Would
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:49:20 +0530
Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume
the
external USB drive MyBackupDrive will be hooked up as
/media/MyBackupDrive no matter
It is absurdly unpredictable that if I stick a DVD in my drive after
logging in, it is mounted underneath /run/media/$USER, but if my
computer than crashes, or I reboot it by hand, and I log in immediately
after the reboot, that DVD is no longer mounted.
Independent of whether the move from
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hello,
I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
though:
my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
some
On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory.
There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged media.
Cold-plugged (before boot) should be mounted
Once upon a time, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com said:
On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory.
However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent
graphical
login), and this is bad. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712
where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame.
Cold- or warm-plugged filesystem devices do
On Friday, April 13, 2012, 3:05:43 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory.
There's still
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