Re: [tex-live] picins.sty license

2005-10-23 Thread Thomas Esser
 It seems to be in teTeX, so perhaps Thomas E. has some knowledge.

Unfortunately, I don't have any additional information. Since I am short
of time at the moment, may I ask that someone else tries to contact the
author? Meanwhile, I have removed the package, but I'll put it back if
we get a free software license for it.

Thomas


Re: [tex-live] picins.sty license

2005-10-23 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 17:30 -0500, Karl Berry wrote:
 %   PICINS.STY --- Style File zum Einbinden von Bildern
 %   Autor:  J. Bleser, E. Lang
 %   Hochschulrechenzentrum
 %   Technische Hochschule Darmstadt
 %   !!!  Dieses Style-File ist urheberrechtlich geschuetzt  !!!
 %   !!!  Aenderungen nur mit Zustimmung der Autoren !!!
 
 Translation: This style file is copyrighted. 
  No changes without the author's consent. 
 
 I can't find any other statements on CTAN. Does anybody now anything
 else? As it stands, this is not free license. :-(
 
 It seems to be in teTeX, so perhaps Thomas E. has some knowledge.  Thomas?
 
 Failing that, can you try to track down and ask the authors about
 releasing it under another license?

One can try. The last thing I have found about Joachim Bleser is that he
left the 'Hochschulrechenzentrum' of 'Technische Hochschule Darmstadt'
at the end of 1996:

http://www.tu-darmstadt.de/hrz/durchblick/db96-2/personal.html

I haven't found much about Edmund Lang. However, Joachim Schrod (CCed)
is one of the authors of extpic.sty which is in the same directory on
CTAN. Maybe he knows something about their whereabouts.

cheerio
ralf


Re: [tex-live] picins.sty license

2005-10-23 Thread Joachim Schrod
 RS == Ralf Stubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RS On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 17:30 -0500, Karl Berry wrote:

 %   PICINS.STY --- Style File zum Einbinden von Bildern
 %   Autor:  J. Bleser, E. Lang
 %   Hochschulrechenzentrum
 %   Technische Hochschule Darmstadt
 %   !!!  Dieses Style-File ist urheberrechtlich geschuetzt  !!!
 %   !!!  Aenderungen nur mit Zustimmung der Autoren !!!
 
 Translation: This style file is copyrighted. 
 No changes without the author's consent. 
 
 Failing that, can you try to track down and ask the authors about
 releasing it under another license?

That will be very hard. Edmund and Joachim both worked at the
Computing Center (HRZ) of the Technical University of Darmstadt (TUD).

Edmund Lang died of cancer many years ago. He was a friend of mine,
and his sudden illness and soon-after death was hard on all who knew
him. He left a wife and three children, whom I haven't been in contact
with since more than 10 years.

Joachim Bleser is the principal author of picins.sty. He first worked
as a TA for Edmund and took over his job when he had finished his
studies and Edmund got ill. I don't know how to contact him.

Maybe Norbert Hahn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) knows somebody who still
has contact with Joachim -- Norbert was at the TUD at this time
already and is still there. AFAIK he does now the job that Edmund and
Joachim did before.

If he doesn't know how to contact Joachim, maybe Heinrich Honal
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or Walter Reichenbächer
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) can help -- they have been even
longer at the HRZ. (Walter Reichenbächer is vice-director of the HRZ,
so maybe he knows how to contact previous staff.)

Cheers,
Joachim

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Re: [tex-live] picins.sty license

2005-10-22 Thread Karl Berry
%   PICINS.STY --- Style File zum Einbinden von Bildern
%   Autor:  J. Bleser, E. Lang
%   Hochschulrechenzentrum
%   Technische Hochschule Darmstadt
%   !!!  Dieses Style-File ist urheberrechtlich geschuetzt  !!!
%   !!!  Aenderungen nur mit Zustimmung der Autoren !!!

Translation: This style file is copyrighted. 
 No changes without the author's consent. 

I can't find any other statements on CTAN. Does anybody now anything
else? As it stands, this is not free license. :-(

It seems to be in teTeX, so perhaps Thomas E. has some knowledge.  Thomas?

Failing that, can you try to track down and ask the authors about
releasing it under another license?

Thanks,
k


Re: picins.sty license

2005-10-22 Thread Reinhard Kotucha
 Ralf == Ralf Stubner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Hi everybody, picins.sty starts with

   % PICINS.STY --- Style File zum Einbinden von Bildern % Autor:
   J. Bleser, E. Lang % Hochschulrechenzentrum % Technische
   Hochschule Darmstadt % !!!  Dieses Style-File ist urheberrechtlich
   geschuetzt !!!  % !!!  Aenderungen nur mit Zustimmung der Autoren
   !!!

   Translation: This style file is copyrighted.  No changes without
   the author's consent.

   I can't find any other statements on CTAN. Does anybody now
   anything else? As it stands, this is not free license. :-(

At least distribution is not forbidden.  I think that if the author
doesn't wants to allow people to change the file, this is something
we can live with. (Maybe Richard Stallman sees things different).

Regards,
  Reinhard

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Re: [tex-live] Re: picins.sty license

2005-10-22 Thread Karl Berry
At least distribution is not forbidden.  

True.

I think that if the author doesn't wants to allow people to change
the file, this is something we can live with. 

No, the current criteria for TL is FSF/DFSG-free.  Modifications must be
allowed.  (Let's try not have this whole discussion again please. :)

Thanks,
k