Re: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
Thanks again for your hints. I'm glad to be able to achieve it with
inline MusixTeX commands, now I've found out how they work.
Regards, Gerhard
Don Simons <dsim...@roadrunner.com> writes:
> And if chords were to be enabled within PMX grace notes, I wonder who would
> have to do the programming? :-)
>
> Whoever it is, to really do it right he'd have to include most of the
> machinery available for normal chords. That would include shifting notes
> left or right if they're a 2nd away from another note, and arranging
> multiple accidentals so they don't crash into each other. It would be a
> formidable task...lots of effort for something that would hardly ever be
> used. It's fortunate that inline TeX as Andre suggested can be used as a
> Band-Aid. Just remember to always use numbers for newly introduced pitch
> levels so you don't upset PMX's octave tracking.
>
> --Don Simons
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
>> Gerhard Eber
>> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:57 AM
>> To: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
>>
>> Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de> writes:
>> Hallo André,
>>
>> thanks for the two solutions. Since I need the 2nd I had the problem to
> find
>> out what number corresponds to the needed note, but in the end it worked.
>> From my limited experience grace chords are really a very rare case, but
>> without your help I would have been lost, and I agree with Dieter that a z
>> option would be much nicer.
>>
>> Regards, Gerhard
>>
>> > Hi André,
>> >
>> > these are nice tricks. I did not know, that I can create a slur just
>> > with one note.
>> >
>> > But I wonder how one would realize more than two simultaneous grace
>> > notes with the first trick.
>> >
>> > My limited TeX capabilities do not allow me to further investigate the
>> > second trick "\\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1 etc."
>> >
>> > Would this allow two have more than two simultaneous grace notes?
>> >
>> > Above all the question is how frequent or rather rare such a situation
> is.
>> >
>> > A more transparent solution would be to build a real z-option into the
>> > Grace notes.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Dieter
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 13.10.2016 um 05:48 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:
>> >> This are 2 methods for writing grace chords
>> >>
>> >> ===
>> >>2 1 3 4 3 4 0 -2
>> >>
>> >>1 2 20 .03
>> >>
>> >> bt
>> >> ./
>> >> w150
>> >> c43 b+ zes esi zb /
>> >> Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 //
>> >> Gxse4s g24dn /
>> >> %
>> >> \\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1{\bigsh7\zq7\grcut{#1}\global\let\grcu\gr
>> >> cut}\
>> >>
>> >> c43 b+ zes esi zb /
>> >> Gxse4s g2nud su+4-1.5 s /
>> >> =
>> >>
>> >> Andre
>> >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Dr. Gerhard Eber
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:17 AM
>> >> To: Werner Icking Music Archive
>> >> Subject: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
>> >>
>> >> Dear PMX experts,
>> >>
>> >> I want to write 2 grace notes which build a chord and tried the
>> >> following
>> >>
>> >> 1)
>> >> Ga zf e4ds zg /
>> >>
>> >> 2)
>> >>
>> >> Ga Gf e4ds zg /
>> >>
>> >> 3)
>> >>
>> >> G2azf e4ds zg /
>> >>
>> >> 4)
>> >>
>> >> G2a zf e4ds zg /
>> >>
>> >> 1) and 2) silently ignore the second note of the intended chord, 3)
>> >> and
>> >> 4) complain about the z being not allowed after G.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a way to do this with PMX?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Dr. Dieter Glötzel
>> > Im Rosengarten 27
>> > 64367 Mühltal
>> > Tel.: 06151 / 360 82 72
>> >
>> > ---
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>> > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
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Re: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
And if chords were to be enabled within PMX grace notes, I wonder who would
have to do the programming? :-)
Whoever it is, to really do it right he'd have to include most of the
machinery available for normal chords. That would include shifting notes
left or right if they're a 2nd away from another note, and arranging
multiple accidentals so they don't crash into each other. It would be a
formidable task...lots of effort for something that would hardly ever be
used. It's fortunate that inline TeX as Andre suggested can be used as a
Band-Aid. Just remember to always use numbers for newly introduced pitch
levels so you don't upset PMX's octave tracking.
--Don Simons
> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Dr.
> Gerhard Eber
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive <tex-music@tug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
>
> Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de> writes:
> Hallo André,
>
> thanks for the two solutions. Since I need the 2nd I had the problem to
find
> out what number corresponds to the needed note, but in the end it worked.
> From my limited experience grace chords are really a very rare case, but
> without your help I would have been lost, and I agree with Dieter that a z
> option would be much nicer.
>
> Regards, Gerhard
>
> > Hi André,
> >
> > these are nice tricks. I did not know, that I can create a slur just
> > with one note.
> >
> > But I wonder how one would realize more than two simultaneous grace
> > notes with the first trick.
> >
> > My limited TeX capabilities do not allow me to further investigate the
> > second trick "\\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1 etc."
> >
> > Would this allow two have more than two simultaneous grace notes?
> >
> > Above all the question is how frequent or rather rare such a situation
is.
> >
> > A more transparent solution would be to build a real z-option into the
> > Grace notes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dieter
> >
> >
> > Am 13.10.2016 um 05:48 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:
> >> This are 2 methods for writing grace chords
> >>
> >> ===
> >>2 1 3 4 3 4 0 -2
> >>
> >>1 2 20 .03
> >>
> >> bt
> >> ./
> >> w150
> >> c43 b+ zes esi zb /
> >> Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 //
> >> Gxse4s g24dn /
> >> %
> >> \\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1{\bigsh7\zq7\grcut{#1}\global\let\grcu\gr
> >> cut}\
> >>
> >> c43 b+ zes esi zb /
> >> Gxse4s g2nud su+4-1.5 s /
> >> =
> >>
> >> Andre
> >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Dr. Gerhard Eber
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:17 AM
> >> To: Werner Icking Music Archive
> >> Subject: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
> >>
> >> Dear PMX experts,
> >>
> >> I want to write 2 grace notes which build a chord and tried the
> >> following
> >>
> >> 1)
> >> Ga zf e4ds zg /
> >>
> >> 2)
> >>
> >> Ga Gf e4ds zg /
> >>
> >> 3)
> >>
> >> G2azf e4ds zg /
> >>
> >> 4)
> >>
> >> G2a zf e4ds zg /
> >>
> >> 1) and 2) silently ignore the second note of the intended chord, 3)
> >> and
> >> 4) complain about the z being not allowed after G.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to do this with PMX?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Dr. Dieter Glötzel
> > Im Rosengarten 27
> > 64367 Mühltal
> > Tel.: 06151 / 360 82 72
> >
> > ---
> > TeX-music@tug.org mailing list
> > If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to
> > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
> >
>
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Re: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
Dieter <d.gloet...@web.de> writes:
Hallo André,
thanks for the two solutions. Since I need the 2nd I had the problem to
find out what number corresponds to the needed note, but in the end it
worked. From my limited experience grace chords are really a very rare
case, but without your help I would have been lost, and I agree with
Dieter that a z option would be much nicer.
Regards, Gerhard
> Hi André,
>
> these are nice tricks. I did not know, that I can create a slur just
> with one note.
>
> But I wonder how one would realize more than two simultaneous grace
> notes with the first trick.
>
> My limited TeX capabilities do not allow me to further investigate the
> second trick "\\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1 etc."
>
> Would this allow two have more than two simultaneous grace notes?
>
> Above all the question is how frequent or rather rare such a situation is.
>
> A more transparent solution would be to build a real z-option into the
> Grace notes.
>
> Regards,
> Dieter
>
>
> Am 13.10.2016 um 05:48 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:
>> This are 2 methods for writing grace chords
>>
>> ===
>>2 1 3 4 3 4 0 -2
>>
>>1 2 20 .03
>>
>> bt
>> ./
>> w150
>> c43 b+ zes esi zb /
>> Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 //
>> Gxse4s g24dn /
>> %
>> \\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1{\bigsh7\zq7\grcut{#1}\global\let\grcu\grcut}\
>>
>> c43 b+ zes esi zb /
>> Gxse4s g2nud su+4-1.5 s /
>> =====
>>
>> Andre
>> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Dr. Gerhard Eber
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:17 AM
>> To: Werner Icking Music Archive
>> Subject: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
>>
>> Dear PMX experts,
>>
>> I want to write 2 grace notes which build a chord and tried the following
>>
>> 1)
>> Ga zf e4ds zg /
>>
>> 2)
>>
>> Ga Gf e4ds zg /
>>
>> 3)
>>
>> G2azf e4ds zg /
>>
>> 4)
>>
>> G2a zf e4ds zg /
>>
>> 1) and 2) silently ignore the second note of the intended chord, 3) and
>> 4) complain about the z being not allowed after G.
>>
>> Is there a way to do this with PMX?
>
>
> --
>
> Dr. Dieter Glötzel
> Im Rosengarten 27
> 64367 Mühltal
> Tel.: 06151 / 360 82 72
>
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Re: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
Hi André,
these are nice tricks. I did not know, that I can create a slur just
with one note.
But I wonder how one would realize more than two simultaneous grace
notes with the first trick.
My limited TeX capabilities do not allow me to further investigate the
second trick "\\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1 etc."
Would this allow two have more than two simultaneous grace notes?
Above all the question is how frequent or rather rare such a situation is.
A more transparent solution would be to build a real z-option into the
Grace notes.
Regards,
Dieter
Am 13.10.2016 um 05:48 schrieb Andre Van Ryckeghem:
This are 2 methods for writing grace chords
===
2 1 3 4 3 4 0 -2
1 2 20 .03
bt
./
w150
c43 b+ zes esi zb /
Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 //
Gxse4s g24dn /
%
\\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1{\bigsh7\zq7\grcut{#1}\global\let\grcu\grcut}\
c43 b+ zes esi zb /
Gxse4s g2nud su+4-1.5 s /
=
Andre
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Dr. Gerhard Eber
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
Dear PMX experts,
I want to write 2 grace notes which build a chord and tried the following
1)
Ga zf e4ds zg /
2)
Ga Gf e4ds zg /
3)
G2azf e4ds zg /
4)
G2a zf e4ds zg /
1) and 2) silently ignore the second note of the intended chord, 3) and
4) complain about the z being not allowed after G.
Is there a way to do this with PMX?
--
Dr. Dieter Glötzel
Im Rosengarten 27
64367 Mühltal
Tel.: 06151 / 360 82 72
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Re: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
This are 2 methods for writing grace chords
===
2 1 3 4 3 4 0 -2
1 2 20 .03
bt
./
w150
c43 b+ zes esi zb /
Gxe5s g2n-ud su+3-1 su+3 //
Gxse4s g24dn /
%
\\\let\grcut\grcu\def\grcu#1{\bigsh7\zq7\grcut{#1}\global\let\grcu\grcut}\
c43 b+ zes esi zb /
Gxse4s g2nud su+4-1.5 s /
=
Andre
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Dr. Gerhard Eber
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:17 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: [Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
Dear PMX experts,
I want to write 2 grace notes which build a chord and tried the following
1)
Ga zf e4ds zg /
2)
Ga Gf e4ds zg /
3)
G2azf e4ds zg /
4)
G2a zf e4ds zg /
1) and 2) silently ignore the second note of the intended chord, 3) and
4) complain about the z being not allowed after G.
Is there a way to do this with PMX?
--
Gerhard Eber
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[Tex-music] chords in grace notes with PMX
Dear PMX experts, I want to write 2 grace notes which build a chord and tried the following 1) Ga zf e4ds zg / 2) Ga Gf e4ds zg / 3) G2azf e4ds zg / 4) G2a zf e4ds zg / 1) and 2) silently ignore the second note of the intended chord, 3) and 4) complain about the z being not allowed after G. Is there a way to do this with PMX? -- Gerhard Eber --- TeX-music@tug.org mailing list If you want to unsubscribe or look at the archives, go to http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
