Re: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?

2024-06-28 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 28.06.2024 kl. 19.20 skrev [email protected]:
I can't resist commenting that the harmonic structure makes no sense 
to me. The first 4 bars seem to be in A major, except for all the 
d#'s. But then it wanders off with B flats and F naturals. I haven't 
tried playing it but I'm guessing it would sound like there are lots 
of wrong notes. ???


The notes are not wrong. Ian was a contemporary composer often playing
with older music tunes and harmony - like in this rondo. The trio
consist of 4 movements imitating various styles but always with Ian very
present as composer.

IMSLP offers quite a few of his compositions. You'll notice that he had
many colours on his palet.
--
Christian Mondrup
WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
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Re: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?

2024-06-28 Thread dsimons
I can't resist commenting that the harmonic structure makes no sense to me. The 
first 4 bars seem to be in A major, except for all the d#'s. But then it 
wanders off with B flats and F naturals. I haven't tried playing it but I'm 
guessing it would sound like there are lots of wrong notes. ???

--Don Simons

> -Original Message-
> From: TeX-Music 
> On Behalf Of Christian Mondrup
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 4:48 AM
> To: Werner Icking Music Archive 
> Subject: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?
> 
> I know this is off-topic. I hope, though, that someone with knowledge may
> help me with identifying a potential quotation in the attached snippet from a
> Trio for Reeds by the late Australian composer and oboist Ian Keith Harris 
> (see
> IMSLP and Wikipedia)
> 
> Ian's heirs and friends have asked me to prepare editions of some until now
> unpublished works incl. this Trio.
> 
> I have a strong feeling of recognizing the leading Oboe motive in the snippet
> (the ritornello from the 4th rondo movement of the trio).
> Unfortunately I'm not able to pin-point which work, if any. My primary
> thought is some concerto or another instrumental work by W.A.Mozart, or
> one of his contemporaries.
> 
> Any ideas?
> --
> Christian Mondrup
> WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files


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Re: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?

2024-06-28 Thread Wilfried Lingenberg
Reminded me of a nonsense song we used to have fun with as children:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drei_Chinesen_mit_dem_Kontrabass


Best,

Wilfried


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-bounces+w.lingenberg=t-
> [email protected]] Im Auftrag von Christian Mondrup
> Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Juni 2024 13:48
> An: Werner Icking Music Archive
> Betreff: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?
> 
> I know this is off-topic. I hope, though, that someone with knowledge may
> help me with identifying a potential quotation in the attached snippet from a
> Trio for Reeds by the late Australian composer and oboist Ian Keith Harris
> (see IMSLP and Wikipedia)
> 
> Ian's heirs and friends have asked me to prepare editions of some until now
> unpublished works incl. this Trio.
> 
> I have a strong feeling of recognizing the leading Oboe motive in the snippet
> (the ritornello from the 4th rondo movement of the trio).
> Unfortunately I'm not able to pin-point which work, if any. My primary
> thought is some concerto or another instrumental work by W.A.Mozart, or
> one of his contemporaries.
> 
> Any ideas?
> --
> Christian Mondrup
> WIMA: Werner Icking Music Archive
> http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:WIMA_files


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Re: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?

2024-06-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Hi Christian,

I tried the incipit search function in RISM, 
https://opac.rism.info/metaopac/start.do?View=rism&SearchType=2&Language=en, 
but when I input the first 9 notes I got four matches none of them is 
any known music. Of course, it might just mean that the RISM database 
doesn't contain so much.


   /Mats

On 2024-06-28 13:48, Christian Mondrup wrote:
I know this is off-topic. I hope, though, that someone with knowledge 
may help me with identifying a potential quotation in the attached 
snippet from a Trio for Reeds by the late Australian composer and 
oboist Ian Keith Harris (see IMSLP and Wikipedia)


Ian's heirs and friends have asked me to prepare editions of some 
until now unpublished works incl. this Trio.


I have a strong feeling of recognizing the leading Oboe motive in the 
snippet (the ritornello from the 4th rondo movement of the trio). 
Unfortunately I'm not able to pin-point which work, if any. My primary 
thought is some concerto or another instrumental work by W.A.Mozart, 
or one of his contemporaries.


Any ideas?

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Re: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?

2024-06-28 Thread Jean-Pierre Coulon
I think the Music Related forum in https://imslpforums.org/index.php is the 
right one for such questions.


Bye,

--
Jean-Pierre Coulon

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Re: [Tex-music] Off-topic: music quotation?

2024-06-28 Thread Christian Mondrup

Den 28.06.2024 kl. 13.48 skrev Christian Mondrup:
I know this is off-topic. I hope, though, that someone with knowledge 
may help me with identifying a potential quotation in the attached 
snippet from a Trio for Reeds by the late Australian composer and oboist 
Ian Keith Harris (see IMSLP and Wikipedia)


Ian's heirs and friends have asked me to prepare editions of some until 
now unpublished works incl. this Trio.


I have a strong feeling of recognizing the leading Oboe motive in the 
snippet (the ritornello from the 4th rondo movement of the trio). 


I forgot to say that the clarinet part is notated in concert pitch in 
this snippet


Unfortunately I'm not able to pin-point which work, if any. My primary 
thought is some concerto or another instrumental work by W.A.Mozart, or 
one of his contemporaries.


Any ideas?

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