David, et al,
Actually, there is an organization of NPS Retirees that frequently harass the
politicians to change their evil ways. I have recently joined. :-)
Former NPS employes - even former seasonals can join the Coalition too.
There are a lot of former NPS "big wigs" on board.
As someone who just retired from over 20 years with the National Park Service,
and about 6 of those years were in Law Enforcement, I have some idea on this
subject matter.
NPS areas have 3 different types of jurisdiction:
Exclusive jurisdiction - Very, very few parks have this type of
Sheryl Rieck wrote:
National Parks are not governed by state laws..
That's not entirely true. It depends on the legal status of the park.
Parks that have exclusive federal jurisdiction (and Big Bend is one, but
not all are) are not subject to state law and the state has no ability
to enfor
Here in the New Soviet States of America you must have papers Comrade!
- Original Message -
From: "Linda Palit"
To: "'John P. Brooks'" ; "'David Locklear'"
;
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] National Park fees - again
Glad you know where to draw t
I'd call it Darwin Award rather than accident
Nico
On 5/9/07, k...@houston.rr.com wrote:
I don't know if I'd call that an "accident". Looked to me like he pretty
much did it on purpose...
What a maroon.
- Original Message -
From: Antonio Aguirre Alvarez
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2007
I smoked a burned line in my leather gloves one time going off the
Gorman Falls cliff on a brand new rope. It was 3/8 ths inch Goldline. It
pays to know your equipment ;-)
- Pete
Rick wrote:
Back in the day I used to sneak around at night and go off of bridges in the
city, what put a stop t
I don't know if I'd call that an "accident". Looked to me like he pretty much
did it on purpose...
What a maroon.
- Original Message -
From: Antonio Aguirre Alvarez
Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 5:29 pm
Subject: [Texascavers] what the f... accident on rope
To: texascavers@texascavers
Back in the day I used to sneak around at night and go off of bridges in the
city, what put a stop to it is one of my friends did a "jump style" (non
aussie, just jump out from the bridge) rap with the idea of grabbing the
rope then getting control, he almost didn't get it.
-Original Message
I noticed the other day that all the REI handouts on ropes, harnesses,
vertical gear, etc. have a new disclaimer that they do not support this
style of "Aussie" rappelling and state that it is dangerous. A few years
ago we had one of the local swat team members ask if it was OK if he set
up nex
Proving that Darwin works in not so mysterious ways, hopefully before he was
able to reproduce.
From: Antonio Aguirre Alvarez [mailto:nelfas...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:28 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] what the f... accident on rope
what t
That's not how your GPS unit works, Linda. Not unless it has a
transmitter. GPS signals are receive only from the satellites and are
really working down in the noise. That's why it takes a dozen receiver
channels all working together to give us the 10 foot accuracy you can
get some times. Howev
what the f... was this guy trying to do? :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0bI7GUJcEc
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JB,
We would all probably be surprised at the large number of couch potatoes
of all ages who think that "we don't need no stinkin state or national
parks".
Fritz
-Original Message-
From: John P. Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:43 PM
To: David Lockl
Glad you know where to draw the line, John.
I don't know whether to talk about microchips which might be used to track
us like I track my little doggie (thought I did not have the chip put into
her) -- maybe those could just hold money and be used for debits
Or to talk about the great lists our
Don, you forgot your NSS card :)
Charles
On 5/9/07, Don wrote:
On May 9, 2007, at 3:43 PM, John P. Brooks wrote:
> and for me; it starts with SPECIAL Permission Passes.they will
> have to pry my "fishing pole" or "caving gear" from my cold dead
> fingers before I will ever get a special
On May 9, 2007, at 3:43 PM, John P. Brooks wrote:
and for me; it starts with SPECIAL Permission Passes.they will
have to pry my "fishing pole" or "caving gear" from my cold dead
fingers before I will ever get a special permission pass.
AMEN brother! Tell us how you REALLY feel!
My
That sounds downright UNAMERICAN. A special pass for permission to get out
and enjoy nature? Maybe that would go over big in the Soviet Union; where
they have secret prisons, invade sovereign nations for sport, run wiretaps
without warrants and spy on their citizens...and where the government
r
On May 9, 2007, at 2:52 PM, David Locklear wrote:
If fisherman have to have a license to fish, why should the
government not collect revenue and require a license for other
activities like rock-climbing and parachuting, and swimming?And
caving ?
They manage the fish and game through r
May 8
View on HAS website.
Texas Parks
Adequate funding for TPWD directly affects bird habitat, as demonstrated by the
proposed sale of a portion of the Big Bend Ranch in the fall of 2005. We are in
the last mile of a 52 mile ultramarathon to adequately fund our state parks.
The ultra
If fisherman have to have a license to fish, why should the government not
collect revenue and require a license for other activities like
rock-climbing and parachuting, and swimming?And caving ?
This would create more local bureacratic jobs and bolster the economy.
Right?
I assume the reve
Thanks all for clearing this up for me. There are just way too many ways to
say "give your government your money." Jacqui
- Original Message -
From:
To: "Sheryl Rieck"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] National Park fees - again
See this URL fo
See this URL for Yellowstone rules:
http://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/fishing.htm
In it it says:
A Yellowstone National Park Fishing Permit is required to fish in the park.
Anglers 16 years of age and older are required to purchase either a $15
three-day permit, a $20 seven-day permit or $
Jacqui,
A fishing license is not a park fee. Fishing licenses are issued by the
Texas Parks and Wildlife Department in Texas and similar such agencies in
other states. What is being said is that you may not need a fishing license
in a National Park. But, according to Bill, this could depend
Re: [Texascavers] National Park fees - againMark, Sheryl & everybody,
I'm trying to figure out if you all are calling a fishing license a fee?
Or...
Are you saying that I need a fishing license to fish in a National Park, but
they won't make me pay to get into the park if I show them a fishing li
Big Bend National Park
$20.00 entry fee good for 7 days($40.00 for a yearly pass Jan to Dec).
$10.00 Back country camping permit as of October 2006.
3.52 a gallon for gas in the park.
Get pretty expensive for just a weekend trip!
Bill
Quoting "J. LaRue Bills" :
Are you saying that you can
There were no other fees, Jacqui, unless you wanted to visit the cave or do
some other tours.
We could drive right into the park, pull up to the Green River, and fish away.
Pretty sweet deal.
The Mammoth Cave tours were good, but, be sure to visit the American Cave
Association offices
at Hi
It used to be that if you lived in a town that had a local lake, you didn't
have to have a license to fish there. I don't know if that is still true.
That was 25 years ago.
I need to check with the National Seashore and see what they say since it is
a national park. Now, I am all curious.
She
Are you saying that you can fish in National Parks without a license? What
other fee would there be, once you've paid to enter the Park? Jacqui
- Original Message -
From:
To: "Sheryl Rieck" ;
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] National Park fees - again
Sheryl,
When we went to Mammoth NP in 2006, we could fish for free anywhere
within the NP boundary.
Be sure to double check this, but, I believe there are no charges to
fish in any of the national parks.
Later,
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Sheryl Rieck [mailto:shri...@cableone.n
What? No one poaches anymore?
Ted
"That shore is some fresh venison.."
-Original Message-
>From: Sheryl Rieck
>Sent: May 8, 2007 1:39 PM
>To: texascavers@texascavers.com
>Subject: RE: [Texascavers] National Park fees - again
>
>I would pay higher park user fees gladly if they made some
This is sort of an annual reminder,
Mid-May is the time
to watch the news from Mount Everest and other nearby
peaks.
http://www.everestnews.com/
For the next 3 weeks, you will see exciting stories about people
making it to the top, and a few who will never make it back down.
Today there was on
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