I'm 6'2" and I kind of like the One-Legged Man.? But you don't have to do that
anymore - we made a bypass years ago.? Or did that collapse?
?
Mark Minton
Bypass is still there. I'm too short to make it through one legged man without
a lot of trouble especially dealing with a pack.
puppy
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Diana Tomchick said:
it's lacking some hallmarks of great caving trips. This includes vertical work
(imagine hauling a 27 pound tank plus your pack up a 100 foot rope),
I did that when Bill Stone dived the sump in Guaguas (Mexico) back in the
late '70's. That's a 450-foot drop on
- the goat had been tied to an old truck transmission.
It was, of course, Jim Hixson's transmission from Beasty.
Dirt Doc
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Actually, I first heard the story in 1957 caving in the Smokehole area of West
Virginia. It was told as a dog and a log, and a pit cave. In the best of Oral
Tradition, it always helps to insert real people and real places in the
telling. Note that I simply said "The Terlingu
But we should also consider this: Airmen's is right here in
Austin. It supposedly has going leads. But no one seems willing
to go back that far to survey. So maybe it is harder than diving
Honey Creek.
Or maybe what Austin needs is some Ninja Cavers. DFW has two: Ninja
Will Harri
I agree, this squabbling over which trip is harder, the Round-Trip to
the Back of Airman's versus the Six-Hour-One-Way Tank Haul in Honey
Creek, is a senseless argument. Short people such as myself find it
much easier to crawl, so the 1.5 hours or so of crawling and stoop-
walking on the Tan
Fritz,
The length of Frio Bat Cave is easily located on the Texas Speleological
Survey website, www.txspeleologicalsurvey.org. The direct link to the
Texas Long Cave List is
http://www.utexas.edu/tmm/sponsored_sites/tss/longdeep/tsslongcaves.htm.
Frio is number 63 on the list, at 609.6 meters. T
I liked this version best also. I liked the description better. It was
posted here a couple of weeks ago and was the first which I had read.
Fritz
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From: Fritz Holt
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Thanks Jenny. I am forwarding this along to texascavers. This highway
marker about the saltpeter mine at Silver Mine Pass near Concan has some
interesting
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> Like really big holes in limestone? Then
Mark Asked: I'm 6'2" and I kind of like the One-Legged Man. But you don't have
to do that anymore - we made a bypass years ago. Or did that collapse?
it's definitly is still there luckly(well 4months ago atleast). I can say from
experience that the issue in one legged man isn't as much from h
Google does have some interesting information on Silver Mine
Pass-check: http://www.forttours.com/pages/hmuvalde.asp#silver
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Like really big holes in limestone? Then come to Florida where a cabal of
commercial interests aided and abetted by the Department of Transportation plan
a hole 4000+ acres (or will it be 9000?) x 100+ feet deep in the aquifer in
what was once our finest wilderness area. The entire purpose o
Here is some info on Silver Mine Pass
http://www.milebymile.com/main/United_States/Texas/photo_17743.html
Interesting stuff..
Travis
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Greetings Carl and other cavers,
The various posts on Big Bend area mines and caves leads me to ask if
anyone, especially old-timers, has any information on what I believe to
be some very old mines in Uvalde County, near Concan. I believe that
these mines are older than the mercury, silver and oth
Carl Kunath said:
>here are a few items of Texas caving history for consideration (more or less
>chronological; rank them yourself):
I think you would have to add Honey Creek surpassing Powell's-Neel's to
become the longest cave in Texas.
Mark Minton
David asks an interesting question and Mark properly responds that it's very
subjective. After you have read through 50 Years Of Texas Caving, you will
have a much better perspective about the events that have shaped Texas caving.
More information at:
http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath
Please join us for the UT Grotto Meeting tonight at 7:45 in Painter Hall rm.
2.48
We are excited to have Dr. Jean Krejca present a slide show on the fauna of
the Edwards Aquifer. Jean is an excellent speaker. You don't want to miss this
one.
Also, we congratulate our Chair, Wes Sch
Does anybody remember the beautiful weather
in Bellingham during the 2006 NSS Convention?
It made me want to move up there.
Check out the weather they had on Monday:
http://media.bellinghamherald.com/smedia/2007/12/01/22/630-bham-20071202-000-floodwatchfollo-1922-MI0001.embedded.prod_affiliate.3
I took a weight lifter/runner to a crawl cave once and he was in excellent
shape. The crawl wasn't near as long as Airman's either. After the trip,
he decided that while he was in fact in great shape he had sore muscles he
didn't know he had. He developed an exercise regimen where he did a belly
Gregg said:
Airmen's is right here in Austin. It supposedly has going leads. But no one seems willing to go back that far to survey. So maybe it is harder than
diving Honey Creek.
I've worked on the leads at the back of Airmen's and also on some at points along
the way. As far as I
David Locklear said:
>What were the top 10 greatest moments in Texas caving history?
I'm sure that the top ten would largely depend on one's perspective. And
as time goes on that list will of course change as new discoveries are made.
Whether or not James Brown's recent breakthrou
For more information about the Terlingua/Big Bend area:
See Texas Speleological Survey publication Volume 4 Number 1, The Caves of
Brewster and Western Pecos County. On pages 29-31 there is a map and
description of Waldron Cave, a segment of Colquitt-Tigner Mine. On pages 12-15
there is a map
I've been to the back of Airmen's twice. I think most people who do it
do so because its a challenge. But I've always figured that a six-hour
haul with a scuba tank would be harder, and have figured that one day I
need to go on one of these Honey Creek trips to do something harder (and
more p
I have a question.
It will probably be answered in the
upcoming book by Mr. Kunath.
What were the top 10 greatest moments
in Texas caving history?
Last weekend at Honeycreek was one of them,
right?
When Mr. Brown popped up beyond the sump,
that should be very high on
the list. My guess is Num
Its this oneeven has some very cool descriptions of the breccia pipes out
near the Solitario. Has location maps and maps of the mines. 1959 PP 312
Geology and quicksilver deposits of the Terlingua district, Texas Yates, R.
G.; Thompson, G. A.
Ted Samsel wrote: I did a quick searc
I did a quick search at USGS pubs and "terlingua" brings up seven pub titles..
Ted
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>Interesting stories! I
Well, maybe so. I happen to have been to all three places. But I've only been
on a tank haul to the upstream sump in Honey Creek. I don't know that I could
haul a tank to the back of Airman's. I'd at least have to switch legs along
the way used to drag the tank behind me.
Bill
Chris
Bill,
I think you're having your leg pulled. While Airman's in no doubt a
tough trip, and I don't mean to denigrate those who actually "like"
it, I think it most likely ranks as the stupidest cave trip in Texas.
Viv's been to the upstream sump in Sorcerers, --ask her about that --
I'd per
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