[Texascavers] RE: Airmen's

2007-12-10 Thread Minton, Mark
Preston Forsythe said: The very back of Airman Cave has long selenites. Longest I have seen anyway. Crystal needles 12-18 inches long or so. Those needles are very ephemeral. I have been back there when they were present in all their glory, and other times when they were barely

[Texascavers] needles in Airman's

2007-12-10 Thread Mixon Bill
If the crystal needles in the back of Airman's Cave are seasonal, they are not gypsum. Needle crystals that come and go with the humidity would be something hygroscopic. Maybe mirabilite or epsomite.--Mixon -- You may reply to the address this

[Texascavers] needles in Airman's 2

2007-12-10 Thread Gill Ediger
At 11:07 AM 12/10/2007, Mixon Bill wrote: If the crystal needles in the back of Airman's Cave are seasonal, they are not gypsum. Needle crystals that come and go with the humidity would be something hygroscopic. Maybe mirabilite or epsomite.--Mixon or ice or figments of the imagination. To

[Texascavers] Langtry Lead Cave

2007-12-10 Thread David Locklear
Langtry Lead Cave ( LLC ), Mr. Mintion mentioned about the needles in the back of LLC. This is one of my favorite caves. It was also my first real caving experience. In 1984, I believe the UT grotto had a trip there, but not sure what the purpose was. On an earlier trip, they had removed a

[Texascavers] OT - more LED lights

2007-12-10 Thread David Locklear
Walmart has a whole new crop of LED lights in. One little 3 watt flashlight for about $ 25 looks interesting. It is aluminum and appears well constructed and small enough to mount on the side of your helmet. It was Everready Extreme Edition or something like that. ( There is an identical one

Re: [Texascavers] OT - more LED lights

2007-12-10 Thread Lyndon Tiu
If you already know about the Candlepower forum site or don't care much about flashlights, then disregard this email, otherwise: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=55 Great place to get and share information on anything about flashlights. On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:37:12

[Texascavers] 'Tis the season - Order a great LED light and help the earth and someone less fortunate!

2007-12-10 Thread mark . alman
All, I came across this article this AM in the Dallas Morning News and thought it was a great idea and a great light: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/localnews/columnists/sblo w/stories/121007dnmetblowtexan.267697d.html My apologies to Dave Locklear if he's already

Re: [Texascavers] 'Tis the season - Order a great LED light and help the earth and someone less fortunate!

2007-12-10 Thread Lyndon Tiu
From your explanation, it occured to me that since the batteries are not sealed and you can go into the light and replace the 3 standard-sized AA rechargeables, this LED light doubles as a recharger for all rechargeable AA batteries. No need for a plug-in wall recharger. On Mon, 10 Dec 2007

RE: [Texascavers] 'Tis the season - Order a great LED light and help the earth and someone less fortunate!

2007-12-10 Thread mark . alman
That never occurred to me, Lyndon, but a great idea! Another reason to buy 1 or 3! Mark From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca] Sent: Mon 12/10/2007 12:43 PM To: Alman, Mark @ IRP Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 'Tis the

RE: [Texascavers] computer progress

2007-12-10 Thread Louise Power
I'm just waiting for the electric car with a battery that will last more than 200 miles. Would make it more practical to drive to Texas. Maybe we should be looking again for the one that runs on water. Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 13:00:41 -0600From:

Re: [Texascavers] computer progress

2007-12-10 Thread Nico Escamilla
According to my neighbor which is a diesel mechanic with many decades of experience, he met a guy in Tampico that had made an engine that ran on saltwater, a couple months later the guy was found mysteriously dead in his house. On Dec 10, 2007 11:03 AM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com

RE: [Texascavers] computer progress

2007-12-10 Thread Louise Power
Well Looked for that story in Snopes, but didn't find it, but sounds like the punchline to a shaggy dog story to me. Not to impune the honesty of your neighbor, but... Louise List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:32:55 -0600From: pitbouncer@gmail.comTo:

RE: [Texascavers] computer progress

2007-12-10 Thread Stefan Creaser
Read Ben Elton's book Gridlock. It's been a while since i read it and i can't remember everything in it, but i recall the plot line was something like this... Cheers, Stefan From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007

[Texascavers] saltwater car

2007-12-10 Thread Mixon Bill
The guy who was found dead after claiming he had made an engine that ran on saltwater probably died of an overdose of whatever drug he was on when he claimed --Mixon -- You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use,

Re: [Texascavers] saltwater car

2007-12-10 Thread Matt Turner
I've never heard of an engine, but they have enticed saltwater to burn. http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/11/can-saltwater-be-burned-as-fuel/ Really my question is does it take more energy to release the hydrogen than is produced by the ignition of said hydrogen? Matt Turner It is the mark

[Texascavers] water as fuel

2007-12-10 Thread Mixon Bill
Well, of course you can use water for fuel is you first break it up into hydrogen and oxygen. Anyone who thinks he can get as much energy out of burning the hydrogen as it took to separate it out in the first place is invited to bid on my secret plans for a perpetual-motion machine. One

[Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread David Locklear
Has anybody seen the prices lately on high-end bicylces at retails stores. You can easily spend over $ 6,000 on a bicycle. You can buy one as-is for $ 5,650 plus tax at places like Sun Ski Sports. Now, if they would take that technology and design and build a car from scratch, and then add

Re: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Nico Escamilla
BMW will soon start production of the famous Isseta (yeah the car that was half scooter half refrigerator) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Isetta On Dec 10, 2007 11:42 AM, David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: Has anybody seen the prices lately on high-end bicylces at retails stores.

RE: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Stefan Creaser
David, There are many cars out there that don't use a whole lot of steel in their construction. For instance, the Mazda RX-8 I have has many panels made of plastic**. Some high-end sports cars have even more made from Carbon Fibre; however, that tells us that's it's quite expensive to produce.

RE: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Louise Power
Of course the problem with making a significantly lighter car is that nobody is making a significantly lighter semi. And when the two collide, well you know which one's going to win...all over the highway. We need to get some sort of equality w/semis. Louise Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:10:04

RE: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Fritz Holt
I wonder why Ford or GM hasn't started making car bodies and more other parts from aluminum. I would believe that we (U S residents and visitors) throw away more aluminum cans than the rest of the world combined. For whatever reason, I have heard that some large aluminum corporation ceased their

RE: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Fritz Holt
There are millions of lighter cars on our roads, especially sub compacts and smaller and most are of current manufacture thanks to gas prices. Any serious collision between these cars and larger cars and trucks will usually demolish/total them. Make them of the lightest materials possible but

Re: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread George Nincehelser
A big drawback of aluminum is its metal fatigue characteristics. You pretty much have to expect that it's eventually going to fail, but you really don't know when. What I find really disturbing is that aluminum is used for airplanes. The only reason they aren't falling out of the air more often

Re: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Scott Nicholson
Wasn't the Delorean's body stainless steel? One of my old college buddies had one.interesting carhorrible visibility. Another old friend invented a contraption that heated gasoline into vapor (pardon my limited scientific explanation) thus greatly increasing its volume as it entered

RE: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Fritz Holt
Thanks Scott, you are correct. The DeLorian was stainless steel, not aluminum. I just remembered the bright natural metal finish. Fritz _ From: Scott Nicholson [mailto:csnichol...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:37 PM To: George Nincehelser; Fritz Holt Cc: Stefan

Re: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Bill Walden
Gee, how many DC3's are still flying! The DeLorian was stainless steel. There was a version of the Jaguar XK150 that was aluminum. I recall that my college roommate's older brother had one. The body was cast aluminum! I believe those aluminum bodied Jags to be rare. I see no reason why the

RE: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Louise Power
We could go back to that old Disney cartoon on cars of the future and equip all vehicles with a force field that would automatically repel any other vehicle that came too close...if not actively repel, which could be dangerous, but at least hold each vehicle away from the other. I also want to

Re: [Texascavers] OT - future of automobiles

2007-12-10 Thread Don Cooper
Bill, DC3's are not pressurized. Thus, they don't have the stress factor of being inflated and deflated like a balloon every time they fly. That is one reason so many are still around today. -WaV On Dec 10, 2007 5:08 PM, Bill Walden wdwal...@hughes.net wrote: Gee, how many DC3's are still

[Texascavers] Flying suits video

2007-12-10 Thread CaverArch
There is a New York Times cover article today on the folks experimenting with flying suits (as on the viral video of late) that discusses their ultimate objective: to dispense with the parachute, and yet survive. Several potential methods are discussed, none of which are very sane at this

RE: [Texascavers] Flying suits video

2007-12-10 Thread Fritz Holt
This relatively new sport craze looks like more fun than anything but also more dangerous. I would think that it should be practiced only by experienced parachutists who are familiar with their body controlled movements. I was somewhat of a daredevil in my youth but I don't know whether I would

Re: [Texascavers] Flying suits video

2007-12-10 Thread John P. Brooks
This is probably a very good test for the theory of evolution also. On 12/10/07 3:20 PM, CaverArch cavera...@aol.com wrote: There is a New York Times cover article today on the folks experimenting with flying suits (as on the viral video of late) that discusses their ultimate objective: to