[ot_caving] The new diesel Jeep Cherokee

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
In this month's issue of Diesel Power is a must read article on the new diesel Jeep Cherokee. They show you step by step how to convert it into a good off-road vehicle. They give it a lift, put in some skid plates, a big bumper with winch, and some new wheels and tires. They plan to continue

[ot_caving] caver news - Charles Fromen

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
On the cover of this month's issue of Travel Leisure magazine is a photo of Zihuatenejo Bay. The house in the center of the photo on the beach belongs to Houston Caver, Charles Fromen. You will need a magnifying glass to see the details of the house, but it gives you an idea what a wonderful

[Texascavers] PSA--Need a job--NASA is hiring

2008-01-17 Thread Gill Ediger
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:59:33 -0500 From: Jackie Hoell hoe...@georgetown.edu My sister works in HR for NASA, at Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, AL. Debbie said NASA, as an agency, is looking for freshouts which means grads who have graduated no earlier than May 2006.

RE: [Texascavers] PSA--Need a job--NASA is hiring

2008-01-17 Thread Geary Schindel
Huntsville, Now that's the real center of the caving universe. Home to the NSS, strong grotto, 10,000 caves within a few hours of the place, and you can actually be a real rocket scientist. How cool is that. Geary -Original Message- From: Gill Ediger [mailto:gi...@worldnet.att.net]

[ot_caving] a new LED flashlight

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
Here is a $ 370 LED flashlight: http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/02/3gat21.jpg I think its greatest feature is durability. It does not look waterproof or even water resistant. I am certain this would not be a good caving light, as mud or grit can get into it. However it is small,

[ot_caving] the flying humans

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
Most of us have now seen the flying humans on the internet videos. But we haven't seen one land yet. That feat is going to happen very soon. One of the top flying humans is planning to land in Las Vegas in 6 months in front of a huge audience. His plan is to dive nearly vertical into a huge

[ot_caving] The new Toyota A-Bat

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
You are very likely to see this hybrid SUV at the 2012 TCR: http://jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2007/12/Toyota%20A-BAT%20Concept%20Truck.jpg One interesting feature is the bumper slides out to reveal a hidden compartment to store jumper cables and gloves and a tow-rope. Another

[ot_caving] various topics

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
It is my opinion that there is just a ton of stuff to talk about. I would like to see people post interesting things. For example, the 2008 Toyota Landcruiser has a feature that no other car has. It is called Electronic Crawl Control. When going off-roading, you can drive 3 very slow

[Texascavers] Re: Having a blast in POSTOJNA JAMA

2008-01-17 Thread dirtdoc
Thanks, Katie. That confirms the story that I heard when we visited the cave in October 2005. It is pertinent because we are taking a group back there in September. Thanks for tracking this down. DirtDoc - Visit our

[ot_caving] a new Houston cave club ???

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
I did not open this web-site because I am at work. It looks suspicious. http://www.clubcave.com David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For

Re: [ot_caving] a new Houston cave club ???

2008-01-17 Thread Charles Goldsmith
LOL, it's not spelunking in the traditional meaning, its an adult only website :) Charles On 1/17/08, David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: I did not open this web-site because I am at work. It looks suspicious. http://www.clubcave.com David Locklear

Re: [ot_caving] a new Houston cave club ???

2008-01-17 Thread CaverArch
David, it's just as well you didn't! This appears to be a Swingers' club with cave-motif interior decoration. Roger

Re: [ot_caving] a new Houston cave club ???

2008-01-17 Thread Don Cooper
I don't know about that Roger - I think it could provide information far more interesting than flashlights and LEDs. I mean, if you thought some of the south of the border reports of late were a little tedious - this could be a fair reprieve! Check it out, David! Check it out! -WaV On Jan

Re: [ot_caving] a new Houston cave club ???

2008-01-17 Thread CaverArch
Oh, I only meant that it was probably for the best that David didn't try to open the web site at work! I wonder if they offer a discount to NSS members? Roger I don't know about that Roger - -WaV On Jan 17, 2008 12:50 PM, CaverArch cavera...@aol.com wrote: David, it's just as well you

[ot_caving] 2009 Toyota Prius

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
It may be less than 2 years away, but Toyota is probably going to be the first to offer a plug-in Hybrid car: http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4227944.html - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com

[ot_caving] Evil Knievel

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
On the last page of this month's issue of Outside Magazine is a very nice article about Evil Knievel. - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional

Re: [ot_caving] Evil Knievel

2008-01-17 Thread Bill Bentley-Webmail
This is a cool video of Federal Express Air Traffic on a typical day. http://news.van.fedex.com/node/3689 This video details the scope of the FedEx network over a 24-hour period. FedEx Express is the world's largest express transportation company, providing delivery to every U.S. address and

Re: [ot_caving] Evil Knievel

2008-01-17 Thread Charles Goldsmith
That Fedex video was very interesting. On 1/17/08, Bill Bentley-Webmail ca...@caver.net wrote: This is a cool video of Federal Express Air Traffic on a typical day. http://news.van.fedex.com/node/3689 This video details the scope of the FedEx network over a 24-hour period. FedEx Express is

[Texascavers] More on DepthX results :

2008-01-17 Thread JerryAtkin
DEPTHX Robot Dives Deep for Sinkhole Slime STATUS REPORT Date Released: Thursday, January 17, 2008 Source: _Astrobiology Magazine_ (http://www.astrobio.net/) By Henry Bortman In May, researchers successfully conducted the third and final field test of the autonomous underwater robot,

[Texascavers] deep caves list

2008-01-17 Thread Mixon Bill
The following list of deepest caves in the world appears in the Oct/ Nov 2007 issue of Regards, the magazine of the Wallonian Speleological Society. 1. Voronja - Krubera (Georgia) 2,170 meters (I think I've seen 2190 elsewhere) 2. Snezhnaya - Mezhonnogo - Illjuzia (Georgia) 1750 3. Gouffre

[Texascavers] RE: deep caves list

2008-01-17 Thread Minton, Mark
Bill Mixon posted: The following list of deepest caves in the world appears in the Oct/Nov 2007 issue of Regards, the magazine of the Wallonian Speleological Society. 1. Voronja - Krubera (Georgia) 2,170 meters (I think I've seen 2190 elsewhere) 2. Snezhnaya - Mezhonnogo - Illjuzia

[ot_caving] Chinese made goods

2008-01-17 Thread David Locklear
For centuries or longer, consumers purchased goods made by slavery. Even here in the states, our economy benefited from this for over 300 years. Now we by our goods from China. These goods are made in sweat shops by young and old people with little concern for their safety or well-being.

Re: [ot_caving] Chinese made goods

2008-01-17 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Agreed David, but it can't be helped, I'm guessing here, but at least 98% of everything you consume comes from that labor somehow. Maybe indirectly, but it does. Maybe the car you drive was made here in the US, but was all parts of it? And the machines to make those parts, were they made here

[Texascavers] ON TOPIC!! CAVES!!!: Re POSTOJNA JAMA

2008-01-17 Thread Katherine Arens
I was the advisor at UT for a Croatian PhD who approves of cavers -- Nikola Petkovic. I asked him, now a professor in Rijeka, to research the question of What really happened in Postojna Jama? Below his answer and email. Caving in the news . . . . feel free to use this information with

Re: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

2008-01-17 Thread JerryAtkin
Back in 2004, we voted to reduce the TSS dues to $15 from $20 for single memberships as the Texas Caver was not regularly being published. It has since been raised back to $20. Jerry. In a message dated 1/16/2008 2:37:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, mark.al...@l-3com.com writes:

RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

2008-01-17 Thread mark . alman
Yes, $1200 was approved for the Honeycreek Project and this will cover all costs. The work weekend for this is April 12th and they (Bill Steele and Kurt Menking) could use everyone. Bring loppers and saws, as well, as they'll be cutting cedar, too. The CBSP meeting was indeed last weekend and

[Texascavers] RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

2008-01-17 Thread Fritz Holt
RD, As an old timer and spelunker in years past, I can only speak for myself as to the perceived benefits of TSA membership. I echo the thoughts of Charles Goldsmith and Jerry Atkinson and I like your thoughts of wanting to belong to a group of like-minded people with a common interest. Many of

Re: [Texascavers] RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

2008-01-17 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Fritz, you copied this over to texascavers instead of ot, not a big deal on this discussion, but we gotta watch what is cross-posted, many of us have been pretty open about things that are generally not discussed on tc and said a few things that would be hurtful to some thanks Charles On

RE: [Texascavers] RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

2008-01-17 Thread Fritz Holt
Charles, Although you signed me up for the OT site I'm not sure that I understand how to differentiate between the two and then post to the correct one. I added texas cavers to my reply to RD, not knowing that I was cross posting. I presume that I can tell which site the post is coming from and

Re: [Texascavers] RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

2008-01-17 Thread Charles Goldsmith
It's pretty easy :) Most mail clients with this list will play nice if you hit reply to all, it will list all email addresses properly, you can then delete any that don't need to be sent to. If you just hit reply, it will just reply to the poster in a private message. You didn't say anything

RE: [Texascavers] RE: [ot_caving] RE: TexasCaver

2008-01-17 Thread Fritz Holt
Thanks for your help Charles and I will endeavor to post correctly. I try to remember to delete unnecessary parts of a string for readers as I did on this one. Fritz -Original Message- From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:06 PM To: