Many of you know Mary Kay from watching her climb rope
at TCR back in the 80's and 90's.
She spent the past 22 years dedicated to helping visitors
at Panther Junction in Big Bend.
I believe she is now in the Big Thicket, which is why she
couldn't make it to ICS.
I think she is on CaveTex, so I
Nah, most of the fun of rockin' is funnin' about it on and on.
Bill
Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
Want me to stop? :)
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 PM, speleoste...@tx.rr.com wrote:
You troublemaker.
Bill
--Original Message--
From: Charles
texascavers Digest 30 Jul 2009 15:50:00 - Issue 810
Topics (messages 11515 through 11528):
Congratulations to Mary Kay Manning
11515 by: David
New sinkhole collapse in west Texas :
11516 by: JerryAtkin.aol.com
11517 by: Bill Bentley
Photos Articles from the ICS
If you¹re not on Facebook, try this link:
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Freddie,
The current owner is very protective of Bandit cave and it
not using it as a dump. He is somewhat (in my view) overprotective
and has not even let biologists into his cave to study the biology,
but he is protecting the cave. For several years prior to the
current owner acquiring
The owner has put in a new fence along the property and I believe there are no
trespassing signs.
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, William H. Russell whruss...@gmail.com wrote:
From: William H. Russell whruss...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
To: freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.com
Just invite them to the next caver party at Aimee and Geoff's.
Andy Zenker
Texas Caver
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Aimee Beveridge aim...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Aimee Beveridge aim...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
To: freddie poer freddiepoe...@yahoo.com, William H. Russell
And show them the Texas Cavers movie ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:49 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
Just invite them to the next caver party at Aimee and Geoff's.
And make sure they're drunk before you ask for cave access. :p
2009/7/30 germa...@aol.com
And show them the Texas Cavers movie ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Andy Zenker andyzen...@yahoo.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:49 am
Subject: Re:
Bill,
How close to the gated entrance is the second entrance and is it also gated? I
would think that the overprotective(smart)owner would welcome a select,
responsible few cavers to clean out the entrances should they need it. What
quadrant of which city is this cave located?
Fritz
I use facebook only for Networking, Blogs, and Announcements. I will not
post cave locations or event maps on these pages. I email them separately
through my outlook account.
Blake N. Jordan
GypKaP Director
NSS 43030 RL FE
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Mark,
What is the deadline?
Fritz
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:34 AM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Photos Articles from the ICS and Points Beyond - The
TC Needs YOUR
Are you good at twisting arms?
Do you have the wit, charm, and powers of persuasion that easily allow you to
win friends and influence others?
Do you have embarrasing details, photos, wiretaps, or other information on
certain cavers that would compel them to serve as a TSA Officer, rather
Some who weren't seen volunteering on campus put in pre-convention
volunteer hours as proofreaders, etc.
Rae
--
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Visit our website:
Click here:
http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/Bandit_Cave_(Reddell)_July_1968.jpg
to see a photo of James Reddell at the entrance of Bandit Cave in July 1968.
===Carl Kunath
It looks like an old ammo bunker!
2009/7/30 Carl Kunath carl.kun...@suddenlink.net
Click here:
http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/Bandit_Cave_(Reddell)_July_1968.jpghttp://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/Bandit_Cave_%28Reddell%29_July_1968.jpg
to see a photo of James Reddell at the
Giant Sinkhole Collapses Near Denver City
Eddie Garcia
CBS 7 News
July 28, 2009
Denver City, Texas - A giant geographical phenomenon has opened up just
two miles northeast of Denver City.
The enormous sink hole opened up just last night and is on Occidental
Permian Inc. property. Company
This story has has been covered by all 3 of the local network news. I find it
most interesting when they say Experts don't know why this happens and in the
finishing sentence of the news story they comment on how it is near an
injection well.
Bill
- Original Message -
From:
That's kindof like saying we don't know what caused this grassfire -
incidentally, there's a kid over there playing with matches.
-WaV
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net wrote:
This story has has been covered by all 3 of the local network news. I
find it most
texascavers Digest 30 Jul 2009 20:52:17 - Issue 812
Topics (messages 11542 through 11549):
Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
11542 by: Fritz Holt
11544 by: Nico Escamilla
11545 by: Andy Zenker
Re: Volunteering
11543 by: mrnadler.mail.utexas.edu
Bandit Cave
Valdina Farm Sinkhole.
There were two trips to the cave, one on Wednesday, July 22 and the other on
Saturday, July 25. The trip on Wednesday included a number of foreign cavers
and was lead by Josh Rubinstein with the Edwards Aquifer Authority and Graham
Schindel and Paul Bryant who were
Geary,
The drought has opened up the downstream sump which was only accessible
by cave diving.
Has Valdina Farms Sinkhole been explored very far beyond the (ex)sump? I
see a map in the 1994 NSS Convention Guidebook, Caves and Karst of
Texas, that says it had not been surveyed, and it didn't say
Mark and others,
The downstream sump was dived about 20 years ago and it went to some additional
passage with bad air to a second deeper sump of approximately 20 feet. The
passage was about 800 feet long to the second sump which was not entered by
either the divers or the recent explorers.
We had a great time at the ICS. It was fun seeing so many old (?) friends. The
Giant Caves of Mexico trip was a great way to get it started. Amy and Pete
really put a lot of effort into preparing for it and it paid off. One thing
that would have made it better would have been if Nico Escamilla
Yeah Nico should have definitely been in Kerrville, guess he'll just have to
make the TCR.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.netwrote:
We had a great time at the ICS. It was fun seeing so many old (?)
friends. The Giant Caves of Mexico trip was a great way to
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I respectfully request your permission to add
Well, you see, that depends on how you count.
There were around 1570 folks that registered.
That includes week long registrants as well as day-pass folks and those that
registered and could not attend due to problems like obtaining entrance visas.
The numbers kept changing up to the last day when
Bill, the last count (unofficial) was 1565, more than 300 additional
cavers beyond those registered at the start of the congress. Last
Sunday it was undecided if the new names would be added to the ICS
web site, which should stay up for at least a couple of months.
Perhaps when Karen
George, I know you are recuperating, but if you want to keep the
ics2009.us site online and need permanent server and bandwidth, I'll
donate it and move the site over to my server.
BTW, was a great congress, you built a great team.
Charles
-- Forwarded message --
From: Pete
I think it might be interesting for the historical record to note the
ratio of staff to attendees.
Would a reasonable guess be 1 staff for every 25 attendees ?or
more like 1 to 50 ?
Nearly every attendee volunteered in someway to make ICS a success.
I think that is what
makes caving
I think I heard George Veni say it was something like 30% of the registrants
were volunteering...
2009/7/30 David dlocklea...@gmail.com
I think it might be interesting for the historical record to note the
ratio of staff to attendees.
Would a reasonable guess be 1 staff for every 25
A second on keeping the website around.
the UIS will be able to use a lot of it for the future -- esp. the
translations of policy documents on competitions, for exam, and i
heard rumor that a lot of the material there was written down for the
first time.
don't let the URL expire -- it can be
Concerning David's post, does anyone have a new e-mail address for Mary Kay?
Fritz
On 7/29/09 8:46 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
So Frank, what's this I hear about you and your extra big backpack?
Actually I had two amazing backpack experiences at ICS:
1) Back in the early 1970s I visited a multiple entrance cave in the Grand
Canyon. Technical climbing
And how long have you known Bill? Caved with him?
Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
Charles
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Frank Binneyfr...@frankbinney.com wrote:
On 7/29/09 8:46 PM, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
So Frank, what's this I hear
-- Forwarded message --
From: Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Subject: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
To: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org, Texas Cavers
texascavers@texascavers.com
On 7/29/09 8:46
I first met Bill Steele when we were young JV surveyors with CRF at Mammoth
Cave circa 1969--1970. He was from Indiana and I was from Missouri at the
time.
By the way, here's a link to some ICS photos I put up on my Facebook page.
I don't think you have to be on Facebook to see them:
Apparently you do have to be on facebook to view the photos :-(
-- Original message from Frank Binney fr...@frankbinney.com:
--
I first met Bill Steele when we were young JV surveyors with CRF at Mammoth
Cave circa 1969--1970. He was from Indiana and I was from
Bill Steele has told similar stories and is famous for this. You were just one
of the fortunate recipients.
Fritz
-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:34 AM
To: Frank Binney
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Re:
LOL..Lesson learned once againNEVER LEAVE your back pack ALONE with
Bill Steele for even a NANO-SECONDor you WILL end up with a rock in your
pack.
Thats like one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS of CAVING Thou shalt not trusteth
thine pack to the Man O Steele...
--- On Thu, 7/30/09,
He's not the only one who does this!? I've been a victim as well, but since I
collect rocks, it really wasn't a bad thing!
julia
-Original Message-
From: John P Brooks jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net
To: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org; Frank Binney
fr...@frankbinney.com;
It is a good thing if they are good rocks. Personally, I never met a rock that
I didn't like, except maybe the one that broke my windshield. I have a rock
fetish.
Fritz
From: germa...@aol.com [mailto:germa...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:44 PM
To:
The hard way is always the best way to learn something.. and ditto thou
shalt not trusteth thine pack to Bill S. unless of course you're some sort
of masochist and like hauling rocks around.. I'm sure theres many a caver
trying to get back at Bill for this
Nico
LOL..Lesson learned once
It's even better when you're hauling concrete pigs down into a cave with a few
rocks ... (Blowing Sink Project) ... LOL
Andy Zenker
Texas Caver
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com wrote:
From: germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing
I to have been Stoned by Steele. I wander who holds the record for , most
people they have rocked. A story needs to be writen for the Caver. Bill , why
dont you tell us of your rocky memories. Puns Excepted
From: germa...@aol.com germa...@aol.com
To:
Ok, I'll do it. I rocked James Brown last night at the grotto meeting. I even
told him I was going to. I placed two decoy rocks and a well hidden rock in a
pack he had left at our house. He probably found the decoys and didn't look
hard enough to find the third one. Tee hee.
Bill
mark
I dunno if he found it or not, he didn't say anything.
I'm making a mental note, never to leave any bags unattended around Mr. Steele.
Charles
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:30 PM, speleoste...@tx.rr.com wrote:
Ok, I'll do it. I rocked James Brown last night at the grotto meeting. I even
told him
texascavers Digest 30 Jul 2009 17:57:55 - Issue 811
Topics (messages 11529 through 11541):
Re: bandit cave
11529 by: germanyj.aol.com
11532 by: Heather Tucek
11535 by: Fritz Holt
Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
11530 by: Frank Binney
11531 by:
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