Re: [NMCAVER] WNS please keep it civil

2010-05-20 Thread Ray Keeler
Agreed, and thank you for the note. I will try to be less abrasive. thanks, Ray - Original Message - From: Lois Manno loisma...@comcast.net To: NM Caver nmca...@caver.net Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: [NMCAVER] WNS please keep it civil Hey! This is a discussion

[Texascavers] Cass Cave permanently protected

2010-05-20 Thread Lee H. Skinner
See article at: http://www.whsv.com/westvirginiaap/headlines/94312429.html Lee Skinner - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands,

[Texascavers] Re: Cass Cave permanently protected

2010-05-20 Thread Mark Minton
Interesting. I am headed to Cass Cave this weekend for the first of three survey trips intended to finish up the map this summer. The cave is otherwise closed. That press release is slightly misleading about the protection it affords the cave, since the land in question does not

Re: [NMCAVER] Cass Cave permanently protected

2010-05-20 Thread Mark Minton
Interesting. I am headed to Cass Cave this weekend for the first of three survey trips intended to finish up the map this summer. The cave is otherwise closed. That press release is slightly misleading about the protection it affords the cave, since the land in question does not contain either the

[Texascavers] the Cookout summary

2010-05-20 Thread David
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date:Tomorrow ( May 21, thru May 23 ) Time: Dinner served 6 p.m. May 22nd ( breakfast and lunch served also ) Place: Camp Happy Hollow 2029 Happy Hollow Rd., Brenham, TX Gate Code: 4490 I am optimistic, that those who

[NMCAVER] Pinon Cave Trip

2010-05-20 Thread Ken Harrington
Hi all, For those of you planning on going to Pinon Cave to help with the surveying and mapping efforts over the Memorial Day Weekend; Please plan on arriving with clean caving clothing and decontaminated equipment. Also plan to decontaminate all you equipment after being in the cave. This

Re: [NMCAVER] Pinon Cave Trip

2010-05-20 Thread Mike_Bilbo
I'll bring to Pinon Cave campsite an expanded Decon field version we use at Torgac's. I plan to arrive Friday afternoon. System is six 5-gallon buckets, ie two separate decon setups to accomodate everyone: bucket #1 intial wash, bucket#2 Lysol dip (1 oz per gallon of water), bucket #3 rinse.

Re: [NMCAVER] Pinon Cave Trip

2010-05-20 Thread Mike_Bilbo
The decon procedure also has you plastic bagging your cave clothes, wiping exposed skin - cameras - glasses - other sensitive items that need to stay out of water - with anti-bacterial wipes that I will supply, and then putting on fresh clothes . The decon is to prepare for the next cave

[Texascavers] WNS action

2010-05-20 Thread Sam Young
The Center for Biological Diversity is organizing a petition to congress asking for more funding for WNS research. You can see the petition here: http://action.biologicaldiversity.org/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=3815 Sam

Re: [Texascavers] WNS action

2010-05-20 Thread John Brooks
This is the same group that wanted to administratively close ALL caves, occupied by bats on ALL federal lands in the continental US because of WNS. I am all for increasing funding for WNS research. But I am NOT going to sign this petition due to the organizations past poorly considered

RE: [Texascavers] WNS action

2010-05-20 Thread Stefan Creaser
If all the (federal) caves are closed, then perhaps humans wouldn't be responsible for the cross-contamination of bat colonies. Just a thought ;-) Stefan From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 3:19 PM Cc: texas cavers Subject: Re:

Re: [Texascavers] WNS action

2010-05-20 Thread John Brooks
1. A human connection has not been proven one way or the other. Mr. Kennedy has pointed that out to us many times. 2. The proposed ban would NOT have impacted access to caves on private land. Nor would it have prohibited infected bats from visiting other caves nearby Sent from my

RE: [Texascavers] WNS action

2010-05-20 Thread Stefan Creaser
The winking smiley was supposed to denote a tongue-in-cheek comment. Oh well… From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:59 PM To: Stefan Creaser Cc: texas cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] WNS action 1. A human connection has not been

[Texascavers] Krizak Kave

2010-05-20 Thread Ron Ralph
Central Texas Cavers, Bill Russell has mostly recovered from his stroke and is ready to go caving. Please join him at Ruby Ridge, Hays County, Monday morning, May 24, between 9 and 10am to celebrate. We will be cleaning out a vertical shaft that has been filled with small rock, then open up

Re: [Texascavers] Krizak Kave

2010-05-20 Thread germanyj
OMG - this is AWESOME news. Congrats to William!! The best therapy in the world is caving! I wish I could join you. I'll be in Austin next week for 3 days (Wed-Fri) for a grants training course, but will have to miss this grand event at Krizak Kave. Glueck Auf! julia