Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread dirtdoc
Thanks, Logan.  I thought that was the case, but was not sure.  In Colorado the testing requirements are quite variable from one municipality/area to another .   The Front Range is especially strict.  Denver has been under the EPA gun due to our setting against the Rocky Mountains and our

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread GalenFalgout
looks like one bad truck to me Sent via my Samsung Galaxy Prevail from Boost Mobile Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: It's all good sir! Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:12 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don. Sounds as if

[Texascavers] TSA convention results

2013-06-19 Thread Jill Orr
Can anyone send me the results of the TSA Salon please. I know Kayla won mapping and Saj a couple of honorable mentions for photography. Thanks! Jill

[Texascavers] Viewing Honey Creek Video

2013-06-19 Thread BBURNETT1
Greetings, When this was first posted it was accessible by clicking on URL below. It now seems to require a password or logon to Facebook. I am not on Facebook but would like to have access. Can someone give me some help with this. It is a great video. Robert Burnett Rune

[Texascavers] Spam for TCR anyone?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Surely we can give it a nice smoky flavour? -Stefan -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other

RE: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread Marvin and Lisa
I hope Moni knows about David ! _ From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:50 PM To: CaveTex Subject: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity Since tourist have to stay on the trail, you first have to calculate the area in square meters of the

Re: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread George D. Nincehelser
To calculate this properly you should first assume spherical cows in a vacuum. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: I’d have thought the capacity could be calculated by seeing how many you could fit in there before they ran out of air and stopped

[Texascavers] latest Mars photo

2013-06-19 Thread David
http://www.spaceflight101.com/uploads/6/4/0/6/6406961/7960414_orig.jpg Is that a very tiny speleothem on the right ?

[SWR] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Louise Power
I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others are getting it, too. Mine don't get onto my Inbox since I have my filters set very high and I don't click on links from suspicious emails.

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Don Arburn
Yes, spam. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others are getting it, too. Mine don't

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Yes, I too have been getting spam. Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I

RE: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Some people on the list have been hacked. Rightly so, don't click on those links. -Stefan From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:07 PM To: texas cavers; s...@caver.net Subject: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed? I've been getting a lot of email

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Mimi Jasek
This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his mail list! Mimi Jasek Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a

[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Jacqueline Thomas
Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his mail list! Mimi Jasek

Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Don Arburn
Get it? SPAM for TCR? From our cook? Spam spam spam spam.. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Jacqueline Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net wrote: Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: This started for us

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Jim Kennedy
It's been pretty much limited to folks with Yahoo accounts. So it looks like a Yahoo problem. Needless to say, it's alwAys a good idea not to click on those weird links. Jim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.commailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com

RE: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Can i like this post? From: Don Arburn [donarb...@mac.com] Sent: 19 June 2013 21:13 Cc: texas cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed? Get it? SPAM for TCR? From our cook? Spam spam spam spam.. Sent cellularly. -Don

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread GalenFalgout
I just paid 60 for my ggg. I just need to add some butt loops Sent via my Samsung Galaxy Prevail from Boost Mobile Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly.

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Leslie Ward
I use GGG as well, based on it being the majority vote after asking multiple rescue and cave folks. It has been good for me. Have not done butt loops yet but would be nice, mostly use it for rescue stuff so I keep it pretty minimal. Les Sent from my iPhone... On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:59,

RE: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
People keep mentioning these butt loops, so I have to ask... Why doesn't the harness come with them in the first place? Would seem like poor design to me... -S -Original Message- From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:27 AM To: GalenFalgout; TSA

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Ron R
I added leg padding and a padded/adjustable butt loop to my GGG harness, to make the perfect harness for me. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: People keep mentioning these butt loops, so I have to ask... Why doesn't the harness come with them in the

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Ed Goff
The MTDE Amazonia is my favorite. Comfortable, fairly compact, rugged, and the lowest attachment point of any harness I've tried, which is great for frogging. I don't know if anybody's importing it these days--with international shipping and exchange rates it might not quite fit $100. I think I

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread dirtdoc
Thanks, Logan.  I thought that was the case, but was not sure.  In Colorado the testing requirements are quite variable from one municipality/area to another .   The Front Range is especially strict.  Denver has been under the EPA gun due to our setting against the Rocky Mountains and our

[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting June 19th (TONIGHT!)

2013-06-19 Thread Andrea Croskrey
Howdy Texas Cavers, Tonight we are going to have local cavers talk about some local caving. Yay! Peter Sprouse will be sharing about recent caving in Hays County and Bryce Smith will be talking about Hendrix Riverside Caves. See you all tonight! UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread Ed Goff
Hey Butch, That was a great truck, and I never regretted buying her from you. In fact, after I got her up to about 230K miles, I sold her for a profit (not counting several repairs and some minor restoration work). She never let me down south of the border, and the stateside breakdowns are now

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread GalenFalgout
looks like one bad truck to me Sent via my Samsung Galaxy Prevail from Boost Mobile Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: It's all good sir! Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:12 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don. Sounds as if

[Texascavers] TSA convention results

2013-06-19 Thread Jill Orr
Can anyone send me the results of the TSA Salon please. I know Kayla won mapping and Saj a couple of honorable mentions for photography. Thanks! Jill

Summer QR table

2013-06-19 Thread AMCS
The problem is that the table is mislabeled. It should be labeled August 2012. The numbers in the table are correct for that trip. (See, for instance, the material on Cueva de Cámaras on the last page of text.) -- Bill Always forgive your enemies.

[Texascavers] tourist capacity in caves

2013-06-19 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Do you have some information about, how you can calculate, tourist capacity in caves? Moni -- LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora) Associazione Geografica La Venta- Italia (socia) Centro de Estudios Karsticos La Venta (socia) Grupo

texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 19:00:03 -0000 Issue 1781

2013-06-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 19:00:03 - Issue 1781 Topics (messages 21992 through 22016): [harness advice requested] 21992 by: Don Arburn 21993 by: Bill Steele 21994 by: Mark Minton 22007 by: GalenFalgout 22009 by: Leslie Ward 22010 by:

[Texascavers] Viewing Honey Creek Video

2013-06-19 Thread BBURNETT1
Greetings, When this was first posted it was accessible by clicking on URL below. It now seems to require a password or logon to Facebook. I am not on Facebook but would like to have access. Can someone give me some help with this. It is a great video. Robert Burnett Rune

Re: [Texascavers] Viewing Honey Creek Video

2013-06-19 Thread Ted Samsel
It needs need a Youtube password. It's been made private Ted On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM, bburne...@austin.rr.com wrote: Greetings, When this was first posted it was accessible by clicking on URL below. It now seems to require a password or logon to Facebook. I am not on Facebook but

[Texascavers] galen falgout

2013-06-19 Thread galen falgout
ttaf http://rodrigues-lecactus.com/ppswt/ifj/yxffj/tqbh.htm galen falgout yhdx

[Texascavers] Spam for TCR anyone?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Surely we can give it a nice smoky flavour? -Stefan -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other

[Texascavers] Another milestone

2013-06-19 Thread Mimi Jasek
Reached and survived! My cave man turned 72 today and spent a part of it as he loves - underground caving, digging, and taking pictures. I took a vacation day to be with him, we grabbed a late lunch with daughter and friend in north Austin, then headed home. On to next year! Mimi Jasek Sent

[Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread David Locklear
Since tourist have to stay on the trail, you first have to calculate the area in square meters of the entire trail. Presume it is just a very long rectangle. Then imagine each tourist is a circle with a diameter of 1 meter. So how many 1 meter diameter circles can you fit in the imaginary

RE: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
I’d have thought the capacity could be calculated by seeing how many you could fit in there before they ran out of air and stopped breathing ;-) Stefan From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:50 PM To: CaveTex Subject: [Texascavers] Re: tourist

RE: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread Marvin and Lisa
I hope Moni knows about David ! _ From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:50 PM To: CaveTex Subject: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity Since tourist have to stay on the trail, you first have to calculate the area in square meters of the

Re: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread George D. Nincehelser
To calculate this properly you should first assume spherical cows in a vacuum. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: I’d have thought the capacity could be calculated by seeing how many you could fit in there before they ran out of air and stopped

[Texascavers] latest Mars photo

2013-06-19 Thread David
http://www.spaceflight101.com/uploads/6/4/0/6/6406961/7960414_orig.jpg Is that a very tiny speleothem on the right ?

[SWR] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Louise Power
I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others are getting it, too. Mine don't get onto my Inbox since I have my filters set very high and I don't click on links from suspicious emails.

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Don Arburn
Yes, spam. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others are getting it, too. Mine don't

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Yes, I too have been getting spam. Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I

RE: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Some people on the list have been hacked. Rightly so, don't click on those links. -Stefan From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:07 PM To: texas cavers; s...@caver.net Subject: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed? I've been getting a lot of email

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Mimi Jasek
This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his mail list! Mimi Jasek Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a

[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Jacqueline Thomas
Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his mail list! Mimi Jasek

Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Don Arburn
Get it? SPAM for TCR? From our cook? Spam spam spam spam.. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Jacqueline Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net wrote: Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: This started for us

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Jim Kennedy
It's been pretty much limited to folks with Yahoo accounts. So it looks like a Yahoo problem. Needless to say, it's alwAys a good idea not to click on those weird links. Jim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.commailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com

RE: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Can i like this post? From: Don Arburn [donarb...@mac.com] Sent: 19 June 2013 21:13 Cc: texas cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed? Get it? SPAM for TCR? From our cook? Spam spam spam spam.. Sent cellularly. -Don

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread GalenFalgout
I just paid 60 for my ggg. I just need to add some butt loops Sent via my Samsung Galaxy Prevail from Boost Mobile Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly.

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Leslie Ward
I use GGG as well, based on it being the majority vote after asking multiple rescue and cave folks. It has been good for me. Have not done butt loops yet but would be nice, mostly use it for rescue stuff so I keep it pretty minimal. Les Sent from my iPhone... On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:59,

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Allan B. Cobb
I'll suggest the GGG, too. As for butt loops. I just used some 3 mm accessory cord. I ran the cord through the loop at the back of the waist strap and then tied off to each leg loop. That has worked for years--cheap, easy, and simple. Allan -Original Message- From: GalenFalgout

RE: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
People keep mentioning these butt loops, so I have to ask... Why doesn't the harness come with them in the first place? Would seem like poor design to me... -S -Original Message- From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:27 AM To: GalenFalgout; TSA

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Ron R
I added leg padding and a padded/adjustable butt loop to my GGG harness, to make the perfect harness for me. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: People keep mentioning these butt loops, so I have to ask... Why doesn't the harness come with them in the

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Ed Goff
The MTDE Amazonia is my favorite. Comfortable, fairly compact, rugged, and the lowest attachment point of any harness I've tried, which is great for frogging. I don't know if anybody's importing it these days--with international shipping and exchange rates it might not quite fit $100. I think I

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread dirtdoc
Thanks, Logan.  I thought that was the case, but was not sure.  In Colorado the testing requirements are quite variable from one municipality/area to another .   The Front Range is especially strict.  Denver has been under the EPA gun due to our setting against the Rocky Mountains and our

[Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting June 19th (TONIGHT!)

2013-06-19 Thread Andrea Croskrey
Howdy Texas Cavers, Tonight we are going to have local cavers talk about some local caving. Yay! Peter Sprouse will be sharing about recent caving in Hays County and Bryce Smith will be talking about Hendrix Riverside Caves. See you all tonight! UT Grotto meeting - Wednesday from 7:45PM- 9:00PM

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread Ed Goff
Hey Butch, That was a great truck, and I never regretted buying her from you. In fact, after I got her up to about 230K miles, I sold her for a profit (not counting several repairs and some minor restoration work). She never let me down south of the border, and the stateside breakdowns are now

Re: [Texascavers] Moby Dick: Supper truck for tough caving

2013-06-19 Thread GalenFalgout
looks like one bad truck to me Sent via my Samsung Galaxy Prevail from Boost Mobile Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: It's all good sir! Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:12 PM, dirt...@comcast.net wrote: I've been too far out of the Texican loop for too long, Don. Sounds as if

[Texascavers] TSA convention results

2013-06-19 Thread Jill Orr
Can anyone send me the results of the TSA Salon please. I know Kayla won mapping and Saj a couple of honorable mentions for photography. Thanks! Jill

Summer QR table

2013-06-19 Thread AMCS
The problem is that the table is mislabeled. It should be labeled August 2012. The numbers in the table are correct for that trip. (See, for instance, the material on Cueva de Cámaras on the last page of text.) -- Bill Always forgive your enemies.

[Texascavers] tourist capacity in caves

2013-06-19 Thread Espeleo Coahuila
Do you have some information about, how you can calculate, tourist capacity in caves? Moni -- LCC. Monica Grissel Ponce Gonzalez Asociacion Coahuilense de Espeleologia, A.C. (fundadora) Associazione Geografica La Venta- Italia (socia) Centro de Estudios Karsticos La Venta (socia) Grupo

texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 19:00:03 -0000 Issue 1781

2013-06-19 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 19 Jun 2013 19:00:03 - Issue 1781 Topics (messages 21992 through 22016): [harness advice requested] 21992 by: Don Arburn 21993 by: Bill Steele 21994 by: Mark Minton 22007 by: GalenFalgout 22009 by: Leslie Ward 22010 by:

[Texascavers] Viewing Honey Creek Video

2013-06-19 Thread BBURNETT1
Greetings, When this was first posted it was accessible by clicking on URL below. It now seems to require a password or logon to Facebook. I am not on Facebook but would like to have access. Can someone give me some help with this. It is a great video. Robert Burnett Rune

Re: [Texascavers] Viewing Honey Creek Video

2013-06-19 Thread Ted Samsel
It needs need a Youtube password. It's been made private Ted On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 2:31 PM, bburne...@austin.rr.com wrote: Greetings, When this was first posted it was accessible by clicking on URL below. It now seems to require a password or logon to Facebook. I am not on Facebook but

[Texascavers] galen falgout

2013-06-19 Thread galen falgout
ttaf http://rodrigues-lecactus.com/ppswt/ifj/yxffj/tqbh.htm galen falgout yhdx

[Texascavers] Spam for TCR anyone?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Surely we can give it a nice smoky flavour? -Stefan -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other

[Texascavers] Another milestone

2013-06-19 Thread Mimi Jasek
Reached and survived! My cave man turned 72 today and spent a part of it as he loves - underground caving, digging, and taking pictures. I took a vacation day to be with him, we grabbed a late lunch with daughter and friend in north Austin, then headed home. On to next year! Mimi Jasek Sent

[Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread David Locklear
Since tourist have to stay on the trail, you first have to calculate the area in square meters of the entire trail. Presume it is just a very long rectangle. Then imagine each tourist is a circle with a diameter of 1 meter. So how many 1 meter diameter circles can you fit in the imaginary

RE: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
I’d have thought the capacity could be calculated by seeing how many you could fit in there before they ran out of air and stopped breathing ;-) Stefan From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:50 PM To: CaveTex Subject: [Texascavers] Re: tourist

RE: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread Marvin and Lisa
I hope Moni knows about David ! _ From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:50 PM To: CaveTex Subject: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity Since tourist have to stay on the trail, you first have to calculate the area in square meters of the

Re: [Texascavers] Re: tourist capacity

2013-06-19 Thread George D. Nincehelser
To calculate this properly you should first assume spherical cows in a vacuum. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: I’d have thought the capacity could be calculated by seeing how many you could fit in there before they ran out of air and stopped

[Texascavers] latest Mars photo

2013-06-19 Thread David
http://www.spaceflight101.com/uploads/6/4/0/6/6406961/7960414_orig.jpg Is that a very tiny speleothem on the right ?

[SWR] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Louise Power
I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others are getting it, too. Mine don't get onto my Inbox since I have my filters set very high and I don't click on links from suspicious emails.

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Don Arburn
Yes, spam. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I can see others are getting it, too. Mine don't

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Yes, I too have been getting spam. Sent from my iPhone-Resistance was futile. On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a lot of email addressed to me and what appear to be other cavers that is weird and has a live link--a no-no for me. I

RE: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Some people on the list have been hacked. Rightly so, don't click on those links. -Stefan From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:07 PM To: texas cavers; s...@caver.net Subject: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed? I've been getting a lot of email

Re: [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Mimi Jasek
This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his mail list! Mimi Jasek Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: I've been getting a

[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Jacqueline Thomas
Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: This started for us several days ago and started from Keith Huess, who, when contacted, said he had been hacked. I think he may have had 60+ names on his mail list! Mimi Jasek

Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Don Arburn
Get it? SPAM for TCR? From our cook? Spam spam spam spam.. Sent cellularly. -Don On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Jacqueline Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net wrote: Was Stefan's email Spam for TCR, anybody coincidental? Jacqui On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:48 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: This started for us

Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Jim Kennedy
It's been pretty much limited to folks with Yahoo accounts. So it looks like a Yahoo problem. Needless to say, it's alwAys a good idea not to click on those weird links. Jim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.commailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com

RE: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed?

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
Can i like this post? From: Don Arburn [donarb...@mac.com] Sent: 19 June 2013 21:13 Cc: texas cavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] Are we being spammed? Get it? SPAM for TCR? From our cook? Spam spam spam spam.. Sent cellularly. -Don

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread GalenFalgout
I just paid 60 for my ggg. I just need to add some butt loops Sent via my Samsung Galaxy Prevail from Boost Mobile Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote: My brother asked me to recommend a caving harness under $100. I haven't bought one in some time. What say you Texas Cavers? Sent cellularly.

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Leslie Ward
I use GGG as well, based on it being the majority vote after asking multiple rescue and cave folks. It has been good for me. Have not done butt loops yet but would be nice, mostly use it for rescue stuff so I keep it pretty minimal. Les Sent from my iPhone... On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:59,

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Allan B. Cobb
I'll suggest the GGG, too. As for butt loops. I just used some 3 mm accessory cord. I ran the cord through the loop at the back of the waist strap and then tied off to each leg loop. That has worked for years--cheap, easy, and simple. Allan -Original Message- From: GalenFalgout

RE: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Stefan Creaser
People keep mentioning these butt loops, so I have to ask... Why doesn't the harness come with them in the first place? Would seem like poor design to me... -S -Original Message- From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:27 AM To: GalenFalgout; TSA

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Ron R
I added leg padding and a padded/adjustable butt loop to my GGG harness, to make the perfect harness for me. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote: People keep mentioning these butt loops, so I have to ask... Why doesn't the harness come with them in the

Re: [Texascavers] [harness advice requested]

2013-06-19 Thread Ed Goff
The MTDE Amazonia is my favorite. Comfortable, fairly compact, rugged, and the lowest attachment point of any harness I've tried, which is great for frogging. I don't know if anybody's importing it these days--with international shipping and exchange rates it might not quite fit $100. I think I