Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Ken Harrington
Steve, I heartily agree with the SWR FOIA actions taken. I have personally written to Jesse Juen and Donna Hummel at BLM expressing my concerns with their actions toward cavers and specifically the closures and impact on recreational cavers. I encourage every caver out there to send e-mail

[PBSS] Fwd: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Bill Bentley
More to discuss at the next PBSS meeting. Original Message Subject:[SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 13:51:50 -0600 From: Steve Peerman gypca...@comcast.net To: Mailing List for SWR s...@caver.net All, On Tuesday, May 20,

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Louise Power
Just remember what your mama told you, You can get more flies with honey than vinegar. Be nice. BLM employees are people, too. You probably have no idea the problems they have to cope with. Irate cavers, like irate ranchers, not being the least of these. From: ken_harring...@hotmail.com To:

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread dirtdoc
Again Harvey, well said. Cavers, please try to put yourselves in the boots the GOOD folks have to wear. There is a lot more going on here than Bat Fungus. You should certainly disagree and point out the scientific errors, but outright hostility will hurt your cause, and not help the caves. Try

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
This should be an opportunity to clean the slate of recent cave = management practices by the BLM in New Mexico. When the evidence is = there for us to examine, can we proceed with a plan, incorporating the = scientific evidence now available, that appropriately protects our bats, = but also

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread JAMES D EVATT Owner
THANK YOU, ARRON. For over 30 years I've stood to encourage the next generation of cavers to take interest and pride in the resources and wonders of the diverse caving opportunities in NM. Your take on the cave closures, and the damage it does to the resource (volunteerism and many other

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread JAMES D EVATT Owner
Glad OKlahoma is OK now. Finally, after nearly five days the responses to the FOIA have been shaken out of the trees, or come out of the woodwork. The more the merrier. Keeps me off the streets day and night. Harv's comments are of course accurate, but it should not deter us from our goal

Fwd: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Jennifer Foote
I still have 40 emails to wade through. Plus the Colorado EA comments due today. Jennifer Foote NSS WNS Liaison www.caves.org/wns wnsliai...@caves.org -- Forwarded message -- From: jen . bigredfo...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM Subject: RE: [SWR] Background