George,
According to the Karst Information Portal home page, grotto newsletters
are soon to be withdrawn from open access. That seems like addressing
the potential problem of location information with a sledgehammer.
What's the point of having things on KIP if no one can get to them?
Maybe
Cavers,
The Honey Creek Cave Tank Haul is almost here and I only have 15
people committed for both weekends combined. We need tons more than
that. If you are committed to come, I need you to please contact me by
email or fb message with the dates you will be there. We need as much
help as we can
Mark,
My understanding is that the KIP is an international repository, so the
member's only access limitation you suggest would have to be extended to all
nation's National Speleological Association in order to be fair. Perhaps the
NSS Archives Committee could be encouraged to set up a similar
The link from the website provides a larger percentage donation, up to .05%
I think. Smile is .005% but can also be used at same time as link from TCMA
page.
Thanks to all using these methods of donation.
Linda Palit
On Tuesday, December 2, 2014, Chris Lafferty via Texascavers
RD,
It would be fine with me if any organization that wanted one could have
a private members area. Once KIP got set up for that, it should be
pretty simple to offer it to anyone. Still sort of defeats the purpose
of open access, though. Generally speaking, cave location information
is not
I discovered that posting this morning, too. I think it's KIP that is
overreacting by
removing ALL grotto newsletters; the issue was just raised in the past few days
by Huntsville, based on a member who discovered the KIP trove and worried
about sensitive info in older issues. I'm not aware of
For whatever it's worth, I had nothing to do with sending Huntsville
Grotto News issues to KIP. Haven't been in Windy City for 34 years.
Does seem like a bit presumptuous for one grotto to submit another
grotto's newsletters unless in cooperation with the other grotto.
I've never been a
Mark and everyone,
I've been traveling and haven't had the chance to check the KIP website. I
called the KIP team to get the latest details but haven't been able to connect
yet, so here is what I know so far.
KIP does not post anything unless it is described as open access (available
freely
(Now at home and able to perhaps reply)
Speaking on behalf of the NSS Board we agree with everything George Veni has
posted below concerning KIP, its purpose, and how they handle their
material. I must make one clarification though: the NSS did not sent any
Grotto newsletters to KIP.
The
Linda, does the TCMA have any numbers as to how this has helped? Donations
last year vs YTD this year?
Thanks!
Charles
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Linda Palit via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:
The link from the website provides a larger percentage donation, up to
.05%
Wm,
Thanks for the correction, elaboration, and support.
George
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