Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-25 Thread Jeff B.
Louise, we should keep this discussion civil and out in the open. Mr. Juen has many issues on his plate, but this particular issue has existed long enough to remove from the emergency set of procedures and brought to the fully prescribed requirements for restricting access along with rationale

[Texascavers] RE: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-25 Thread Louise Power
rants. Ask yourself, does anybody really care! According to your complaints, possibly not, and certainly not me any more. Let's find something else to talk about. Louise Subject: Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM From: pagan...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:06:57 -0600 CC

Re: [Texascavers] RE: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-25 Thread Julia Germany
about. Louise Subject: Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM From: pagan...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:06:57 -0600 CC: power_lou...@hotmail.com; s...@caver.net To: lobofl...@gmail.com Jeff and Louise, In reading your open discussion of your previous e mail below, I

[Texascavers] RE: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-23 Thread Louise Hose
on the FOIA request to BLM Just remember what your mama told you, You can get more flies with honey than vinegar. Be nice. BLM employees are people, too. You probably have no idea the problems they have to cope with. Irate cavers, like irate ranchers, not being the least of these.

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-23 Thread Sam Bono
Steve: Many thanks for the additional information of the SWR FOIA to the BLM, I support whole heartily. See you in the Black Range. Sam Bono On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Steve Peerman gypca...@comcast.net wrote: All, On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, our SWR Vice-Chair, Jim Evatt notified the

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-23 Thread Ken Harrington
. Ken Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - It's about dancing in the rain. Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:03:04 -0600 From: 2924ef...@gmail.com To: gypca...@comcast.net CC: s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM Steve: Many thanks for the additional

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-23 Thread michael queen
It is always a juggling act between trying to get some things done and trying to maintain a constructive working relationship with, in this case, BLM. Was BLM informed that the board of the SWR was considering a request for information under the FOIA? Or did it just fall from the sky on the desk

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-23 Thread Lynda James Sánchez
out to their bosses the pending situation, problems and/or possible solutions. Lynda From: Louise Power Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 3:33 PM To: Ken Harrington ; Sam Bono ; Steve Peerman Cc: SWR Cavers Subject: Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM Believe me when I say, flooding

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-23 Thread Jeff B.
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.comwrote: Believe me when I say, flooding the State Director's email box will be of no benefit. It's unprofessional and borders on bullying. I am sorry that the Mr. Juen would be so inconvenienced by executing the duties so

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Ken Harrington
-0600 To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM All,On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, our SWR Vice-Chair, Jim Evatt notified the membership in the SWR, through the SWR mailing list, that a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request had been filed by the SWR for information

[PBSS] Fwd: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Bill Bentley
More to discuss at the next PBSS meeting. Original Message Subject:[SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 13:51:50 -0600 From: Steve Peerman gypca...@comcast.net To: Mailing List for SWR s...@caver.net All, On Tuesday, May 20

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Louise Power
To: gypca...@comcast.net; s...@caver.net Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:15:20 -0600 Subject: Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM Steve, I heartily agree with the SWR FOIA actions taken. I have personally written to Jesse Juen and Donna Hummel at BLM expressing my concerns

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread dirtdoc
Again Harvey, well said. Cavers, please try to put yourselves in the boots the GOOD folks have to wear. There is a lot more going on here than Bat Fungus. You should certainly disagree and point out the scientific errors, but outright hostility will hurt your cause, and not help the caves. Try

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
This should be an opportunity to clean the slate of recent cave = management practices by the BLM in New Mexico. When the evidence is = there for us to examine, can we proceed with a plan, incorporating the = scientific evidence now available, that appropriately protects our bats, = but also

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread JAMES D EVATT Owner
. Thanks again for your caring. Jim Evatt Vice Chair SWR - Original Message - From: Aaron aaro...@nmt.edu To: jj...@blm.gov Cc: s...@caver.net Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:56:31 PM Subject: Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM Dear Jesse Juen (cc SWR list

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread JAMES D EVATT Owner
- From: Steve Peerman gypca...@comcast.net To: Harvey DuChene hrduch...@gmail.com Cc: Mailing List for SWR s...@caver.net Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:05:56 PM Subject: Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM Thanks, Harvey. I agree about the good, hard working folks

Fwd: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-22 Thread Jennifer Foote
To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM All, On Tuesday, May 20, 2014, our SWR Vice-Chair, Jim Evatt notified the membership in the SWR, through the SWR mailing list, that a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request had been filed by the SWR for information related