[Texascavers] Carrizal histo

2016-10-10 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
Thanks, Mónica. Attached is Google translation into English. It seems to have been well enough written that translation pretty successful. -- Mixon Carrizal Google translation.doc Description: MS-Word document A chicken is the egg's way of making

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2016-10-10 Thread Nico Escamilla via Texascavers
the fence right by the resurgence is actually the state line, the cave is in Coahuila El oct. 10, 2016 4:28 PM, "David via Texascavers" < texascavers@texascavers.com> escribió: > I am just curious if the cave really is inside the boundary of the State > of Nuevo Leon then how is it controlled by

[Texascavers] Carrizal

2016-10-10 Thread David via Texascavers
I am just curious if the cave really is inside the boundary of the State of Nuevo Leon then how is it controlled by an ejido in the state of Coahuila. I can't picture that happening in the USA. David Locklear ___ Texascavers mailing list |

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2016-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
ote: > > So Fritz what would you like to know about me? > Karen > > > From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal > &

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2016-09-01 Thread Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC . via Texascavers
texascavers@texascavers.com> > *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal > > I don't know Karen Perry but would like to read a short bio on who and > where she is. > Fritz Holt > fritz...@gmail.com >

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2016-09-01 Thread Karen Perry via Texascavers
So Fritz what would you like to know about me?Karen From: Fritz Holt via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal I don't know Karen Perry but would like to read a

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2016-09-01 Thread Fritz Holt via Texascavers
og. > > Later, > Karen Perry > > > From: Charles Loving via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> > To: Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal > > A couple of peop

[Texascavers] Carrizal - a personal story

2016-09-01 Thread David via Texascavers
Carrizal was my 2nd cave in Mexico in late December of 1984. I had only been horizontal caving in about 20 small Texas caves, and the 3 big caves in Langtry. I had not yet met any cavers outside of about 8 A.S.S. cavers. ( Although, Ronnie Feiseler had giving a special slide presentation at

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2016-08-31 Thread Pete Lindsley via Texascavers
On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC. via Texascavers wrote: Do you have the dates of that accident? do you know is someone write an article about it? could you please share with me Mónica Ponce 2016-08-31 11:57 GMT-05:00 Charles Loving via Texascavers

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2016-08-31 Thread Karen Perry via Texascavers
: Charles Loving via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> To: Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Carrizal A couple of people, scouts I think, swam the wrong way in the syphon and drowned. It was

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2016-08-31 Thread Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC . via Texascavers
Do you have the dates of that accident? do you know is someone write an article about it? could you please share with me Mónica Ponce 2016-08-31 11:57 GMT-05:00 Charles Loving via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com>: > A couple of people, scouts I think, swam the wrong way in the syphon

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2016-08-31 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
A couple of people, scouts I think, swam the wrong way in the syphon and drowned. It was back when I was caving a lot. Raines and I swam the syphon with a Rayovac flashlight and two canteen belts latched together. The flashlight lasted just long enough for us to get back out. Really dumb. On Fri,

[Texascavers] Carrizal

2016-08-27 Thread David via Texascavers
I posted this story on CaveTex about 2 years ago.Here it is again, but rewritten from a very fuzzy memory bank: Sometime around 1996 ( 20 years ago ! ), I had a desire to poke around up in a small dome near the back of the Carrizal.My recollection from previous trips was that this dome

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2016-08-26 Thread Stefan Creaser via Texascavers
cavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of David via Texascavers Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:53 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Carrizal I have always wanted to see a map of the dived passages. I have heard they are under water. IMPORTANT NOTICE: The co

[Texascavers] Carrizal

2016-08-26 Thread David via Texascavers
I have always wanted to see a map of the dived passages. I have heard they are under water. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/

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2014-11-14 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Carizal as a tourist cave is a terrible idea. It isn't very pretty at any of the levels. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Espeleo Coahuila via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Currently the Caves of Carrizal, are considered of the state of Coahuila and the Secretary of

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2014-11-14 Thread David via Texascavers
Charles, you have to imagine a gas-powered choo-choo train and giant LCD tv's mounted on the walls showing you what stalamgasites are, and how they are formed. David Locklear ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com

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2014-11-13 Thread Gill Ediger via Texascavers
I first went to Carrizal in 1967 and there was already a sign on the building there between the 2 entrances warning of the histo danger. I was raised with chickens so have a high histo resistance. We went caving there a dozen or more times with small and large groups and I don't recall that

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2014-11-13 Thread Espeleo Coahuila via Texascavers
Currently the Caves of Carrizal, are considered of the state of Coahuila and the Secretary of Tourism, has a project to make this cave a place for tourism. Despite knowing that the cave has histoplasmosis. LCC. MÓNICA GRISSEL PONCE GONZÁLEZ Coordinadora de la Comisión Internacional de Técnicas y

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2014-11-12 Thread Fofo via Texascavers
[mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of via Texascavers Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:12 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Carrizal The last time I went to Grutas de Carrizal was 2008. We didn't go to the dry upper level passage, because we knew

[Texascavers] Carrizal

2014-11-12 Thread via Texascavers
Sorry, that first Carrizal post was Pete Strickland, (I forgot I had to sign now). Fofo- What time of year did the Monterrey nubies get Histo? ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives:

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2014-11-12 Thread Fofo via Texascavers
Hey Pete! Oh, I can't remember, but it was probably during the summer since we had no newer cavers with us (and if we had gone during the time of eithe the spring or fall semester we would have had more people tagging along). - Fofo On 12/11/14 20:28, via Texascavers wrote: Sorry,

[Texascavers] Carrizal

2014-11-11 Thread via Texascavers
The last time I went to Grutas de Carrizal was 2008. We didn't go to the dry upper level passage, because we knew there was Histoplasmosis there, but three new cavers got histo anyway, (two seriously). It was May, and there were bats in the big passage with the stream. maybe it was always