Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers)

2017-01-16 Thread R D Milhollin via Texascavers
Loving via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> To: Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers) Gaston Santos father was the Gov. of SLP and owned the ranch acros

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers)

2017-01-16 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Gaston Santos father was the Gov. of SLP and owned the ranch across the street from the hotel in Tamuin. We had his permission to cave but had to extra careful because he raised Toros for the corrida. He also had student protestors shot in SLP and was fired. Gaston Jr was a bull fighter and a pal

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers)

2017-01-16 Thread via Texascavers
Now we are getting somewhere! Aside from the Zetas, etc, why is the place so unpopulated? Bad dirt? Wretched vegetation? Thorn scrub never stopped a Mexican or a cow, and neither does cloud forest. Are these mountains older than the Sierra Madre Oriental? Different orogeny? Subsequent

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers)

2017-01-16 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
There is, or was remnant cloud forest there. On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:50 AM, Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > On 1/15/2017 10:00 AM, Bill Mixon via Texascavers wrote: > > That valley El Picharo is certainly a curious feature. I wonder if it is an > old

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-16 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Bill Johnson, Dennis Sustare,myself and a few others explored Cuveacillas near there. On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 9:54 PM, via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > Watch out. The Gulf Cartel is still considered a big threat in > Tamaulipas. > Mixon Bill via Texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico (Skinner Lee via Texascavers)

2017-01-15 Thread Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers
On 1/15/2017 10:00 AM, Bill Mixon via Texascavers wrote: That valley El Picharo is certainly a curious feature. I wonder if it is an old caldera. Whole region looks virtually uninhabited, which might (or might not) make it a place for people up to no good to hang out. Surroundings seems to

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-15 Thread Evatt via Texascavers
This message is probably from one of them. There is no personal identifier in the message. Evatt -Original Message- From: via Texascavers Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 8:54 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico Watch out

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-14 Thread David via Texascavers
Since everybody is all excited about Mexico, all of the sudden, I thought this would be a good time to bring up the tiny-iddy-bitty fued going on between the Trump administration and the Pen~a administration. What impact do you think this new tension could have on the safety of tourist in the

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-14 Thread Jerry via Texascavers
caves is Poza Zacaton which has had much written about it. Jerry Atkinson. jerryat...@aol.com -Original Message- From: via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> To: texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 14, 2017 8:44 am Subject: [Texascavers]

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-14 Thread via Texascavers
Watch out. The Gulf Cartel is still considered a big threat in Tamaulipas. Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: > From Association for Mexican Cave Studies Newsletter vol 4, pp. 55-56 report > on trip by a number of French cavers led by Bill Russell (OCR of

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-14 Thread Mixon Bill via Texascavers
From Association for Mexican Cave Studies Newsletter vol 4, pp. 55-56 report on trip by a number of French cavers led by Bill Russell (OCR of scan will have errors): > Le 10 au soir, nous etablissons Ie campement > pres du Rio de Jaumave dans la Sierra de Tamaulipas. Le 11 est notre premiere >

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-14 Thread via Texascavers
AND NOW HE’S ROLLIN’ DOWN THE MOUNTAIN GOING FAST, FAST, FAST AND IF HE BLOWS IT THIS ONE’S GONNA BE HIS LAST RUN TO ACAPUCO TO TURN THE GOLDEN KEYS HENRY KEEP THE BRAKES ON FOR THIS CORNER IF YOU PLEASE! But what is the name of the mountain range? What is the jungle like? Rainforest or

Re: [Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-14 Thread Charles Loving via Texascavers
Went there in the sixties. Land Rovered up to some caves near there. Terrible road, steep and narly. Found some interesting caves in the jungle. Had a real thrill coming down with the brakes over heating. Made it back to Tamuin and Valles and mapped Arroyo and a cave across the road form the hot

[Texascavers] Green place in Mexico

2017-01-14 Thread via Texascavers
While cruising around on Google earth the Weazel noticed an interesting looking mountain range that I think is in Tamaulipas and is east of the main range. The peak (actually a valley) that piqued my interest is called El Picacho and is located at 23.397613, -98.563586 about 45 miles SE of