) 799-1095
a...@gluesenkamp.com
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:
From: Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 7:45 PM
In a similar vein, back
) 799-1095
a...@gluesenkamp.com
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net wrote:
From: Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 7:45 PM
Could they be dried up pulverized hackberry seeds? I noticed a bunch of white
calcium looking gravel in the bottom of a metal rain-water trough,
yesterday, that I drained. Sounds similar. Perhaps washed in from the surface?
Sent cellularly.
-Don
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp
Calcite sand in Honey Creek is usually deposited due to turbulence related
to both normal and flooding conditions.
Kurt described deposition common to normal conditions:
. Dripping water sinks floating calcite rafts;
. Rafts accumulate on the upstream side of dams, where as
Thanks for the excellent explanation, George.
Andy
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
a...@gluesenkamp.com
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, George Veni gv...@nckri.org wrote:
From: George Veni gv...@nckri.org
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey
The degree to which the sand accumulates or is noticed at any given time
depends mostly on:
· How much time has passed since the last flood, which determines how
many rafts will accumulate floating on the water;
· How severe the flood was, and did it just sink the floating
-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
The degree to which
[mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
The degree to which the sand accumulates or is noticed at any given
time
depends mostly on:
. How much time has passed
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 13:26
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: 'texas cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR
To: 'texas cavers'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
Sounds like a job for Geochemists' Workbench (or PHREEQC), which I have access
to. I'd be glad to do some runs if data is available. Temperature effects I bet
are minor as mentioned, and partial pressure of CO2 should
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: 'texas cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR during a flood event in the really dry NM area
Could they be dried up pulverized hackberry seeds? I noticed a bunch of white
calcium looking gravel in the bottom of a metal rain-water trough,
yesterday, that I drained. Sounds similar. Perhaps washed in from the surface?
Sent cellularly.
-Don
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp
Calcite sand in Honey Creek is usually deposited due to turbulence related
to both normal and flooding conditions.
Kurt described deposition common to normal conditions:
. Dripping water sinks floating calcite rafts;
. Rafts accumulate on the upstream side of dams, where as
Thanks for the excellent explanation, George.
Andy
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
a...@gluesenkamp.com
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, George Veni gv...@nckri.org wrote:
From: George Veni gv...@nckri.org
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey
The degree to which the sand accumulates or is noticed at any given time
depends mostly on:
· How much time has passed since the last flood, which determines how
many rafts will accumulate floating on the water;
· How severe the flood was, and did it just sink the floating
-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
The degree to which
[mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
The degree to which the sand accumulates or is noticed at any given
time
depends mostly on:
. How much time has passed
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 13:26
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: 'texas cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR
To: 'texas cavers'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
Sounds like a job for Geochemists' Workbench (or PHREEQC), which I have access
to. I'd be glad to do some runs if data is available. Temperature effects I bet
are minor as mentioned, and partial pressure of CO2 should
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: 'texas cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR during a flood event in the really dry NM area
cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR during a flood event in the really dry NM area, and that apparently
happens
Could they be dried up pulverized hackberry seeds? I noticed a bunch of white
calcium looking gravel in the bottom of a metal rain-water trough,
yesterday, that I drained. Sounds similar. Perhaps washed in from the surface?
Sent cellularly.
-Don
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp
Calcite sand in Honey Creek is usually deposited due to turbulence related
to both normal and flooding conditions.
Kurt described deposition common to normal conditions:
. Dripping water sinks floating calcite rafts;
. Rafts accumulate on the upstream side of dams, where as
Thanks for the excellent explanation, George.
Andy
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
a...@gluesenkamp.com
--- On Mon, 2/13/12, George Veni gv...@nckri.org wrote:
From: George Veni gv...@nckri.org
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey
The degree to which the sand accumulates or is noticed at any given time
depends mostly on:
· How much time has passed since the last flood, which determines how
many rafts will accumulate floating on the water;
· How severe the flood was, and did it just sink the floating
-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
The degree to which
[mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
The degree to which the sand accumulates or is noticed at any given
time
depends mostly on:
. How much time has passed
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org
-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 12:40
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: texas cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 13:26
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: 'texas cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR
To: 'texas cavers'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
Sounds like a job for Geochemists' Workbench (or PHREEQC), which I have access
to. I'd be glad to do some runs if data is available. Temperature effects I bet
are minor as mentioned, and partial pressure of CO2 should
To: gv...@nckri.org
Cc: 'texas cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR during a flood event in the really dry NM area
cavers'
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek sand observation
George, it would also be interesting to relate this to the development of
the rather recent calcite formation in Snowy RIver. SR only forms calcite in
SR during a flood event in the really dry NM area, and that apparently
happens
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