[Texascavers] cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman

2013-06-21 Thread Logan McNatt
Today's Austin American-Statesman has an article on page B1 titled Caves' face-lift to allow rainwater into aquifer, about Blowing Sink 
Preserve in south Austin.  There is a photo of Nico Hauwert , a senior environmental scientist for the city's Watershed Protection 
Department.  The City Council awarded the contract to Zara Environmental (Jean Krejca and Peter Sprouse, et al.) to spend about two months 
building what are essentially concrete chimneys anchored as deep as 50 feet into the caves.


Unfortunately the full online article is available only to subscribers, but 
that might change in a day or two.


http://www.statesman.com/s/news/local/


 City Council approves $246,000 for cave repairs in South Austin

By Farzad Mashhood http://www.statesman.com/staff/farzad-mashhood/

American-Statesman Staff

Five caves tucked in a South Austin preserve will get a $246,000 face-lift to allow more rainwater to pass through them and into the aquifer 
that feeds Barton Springs.


The Austin City Council approved the spending on Thursday.




Re: [Texascavers] cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman

2013-06-21 Thread Katherine Arens
I have it as a full pdf, let me know if you want it -- the list doesn't like 
attachments, if i remember rightly.

The wood structures were mostly built by Bill Russell, for considerably less 
than a quarter million dollars.
katie
On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

 Today's Austin American-Statesman has an article on page B1 titled Caves' 
 face-lift to allow rainwater into aquifer, about Blowing Sink Preserve in 
 south Austin.  There is a photo of Nico Hauwert , a senior environmental 
 scientist for the city's Watershed Protection Department.  The City Council 
 awarded the contract to Zara Environmental (Jean Krejca and Peter Sprouse, et 
 al.) to spend about two months building what are essentially concrete 
 chimneys anchored as deep as 50 feet into the caves.
 
 Unfortunately the full online article is available only to subscribers, but 
 that might change in a day or two.
 
 
 http://www.statesman.com/s/news/local/
 
 City Council approves $246,000 for cave repairs in South Austin
 
 By Farzad Mashhood
 
 American-Statesman Staff
 
 Five caves tucked in a South Austin preserve will get a $246,000 face-lift to 
 allow more rainwater to pass through them and into the aquifer that feeds 
 Barton Springs.
 
 The Austin City Council approved the spending on Thursday.
 
 


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Re: [SWR] Silver Fire

2013-06-21 Thread John Corcoran
Steve,

I assume you heard that Santa Fe NF is about to close to all uses.  Any
hints about Lincoln?

Regards,

John

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Steve Peerman
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:52 AM
To: Mailing List for SWR
Subject: [SWR] Silver Fire

All,
For those who are familiar with the caves in the Black Range, the
Silver Fire has swept past Coffee Cave.  Robinson's and other caves in the
area are safe, for the moment.  The fire is burning north and heading
towards Palomas Creek Cave, but it is about 7-8 miles from the fire
boundary.  However, with the predicted wind today, who knows what will
happen.
Today's boundary can be viewed at
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/NMGNF/2013-06-09-1228-Silver/picts/2013_06_21
-10.32.34.970-CDT.jpeg

Steve Peerman

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written
this.

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[Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

2013-06-21 Thread Mixon Bill
Thanks, George and NCKRI. I've always been frustrated that the  
proceedings of the previous conferences in the series were allowed to  
fall into the hands of commercial scientific publishers who priced  
them for libraries and professionals, with the result that I own few  
or none of them. The free PDF is great, and the layout is, for the  
most part, fully commercial-quality. It's not just a concatenation of  
files provided by the authors. I'll be having made a bound black-and- 
white printout, but of course I'll also keep a copy of the PDF on  
disk, because some fraction of the numerous color images really  
require seeing the color for understanding. There are quite a few  
papers about Texas.--Mixon


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RE: [Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

2013-06-21 Thread George Veni
Bill,

Thanks for the good words. At NCKRI we're trying to support open access to 
publications as much as possible. That is one of the big reasons we're working 
on the Karst Information Portal as a giant virtual international cave and karst 
library. I've seen too many people, who really need information to do good 
works, blocked from receiving it because it is too expensive to buy. It is a 
tough choice to do this because selling publications can provide us small but 
needed funding, but providing open access publications is just the right thing 
to do. I won't swear that we'll never print another publication, but the next 
six publications we have on the horizon (not counting our annual report which 
be available in both print and digital format) are all planned as digital.

George


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org


-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

Thanks, George and NCKRI. I've always been frustrated that the proceedings of 
the previous conferences in the series were allowed to fall into the hands of 
commercial scientific publishers who priced them for libraries and 
professionals, with the result that I own few or none of them. The free PDF is 
great, and the layout is, for the most part, fully commercial-quality. It's not 
just a concatenation of files provided by the authors. I'll be having made a 
bound black-and- white printout, but of course I'll also keep a copy of the PDF 
on disk, because some fraction of the numerous color images really require 
seeing the color for understanding. There are quite a few papers about 
Texas.--Mixon

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[Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Logan McNatt

On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation of files 
provided by the authors.

Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple 
entrances.

CONCATENATION
*1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
*2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

Middle English, from Late Latin /concatenatus,/ past participle of 
/concatenare/ to link together, from Latin /com-/ + /catena/ chain
First Known Use: 15th century


There is even a website using the word!

www.concatenation.org
/*The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation*/ is the
seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the (1987-1997)
annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention and 
European SF
convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the 
northern hemisphere's
Spring, Summer  Autumn.



Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Bill Bentley
The return signal path will be concatenated from each fiber node. 


- Original Message - 
  From: Logan McNatt 
  To: Mixon Bill 
  Cc: Cavers Texas 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:27 AM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation


  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation of 
files provided by the authors.

  Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
  For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
  e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple 
entrances.

  CONCATENATION

  1. a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
  2. the act of linking together or the state of being joined

  Middle English, from Late Latin concatenatus, past participle of concatenare 
to link together, from Latin com- + catena chain 
  First Known Use: 15th century


  There is even a website using the word!

  www.concatenation.org
  The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation is the 
  seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the (1987-1997) 
  annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention and 
European SF
  convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the 
northern hemisphere's
  Spring, Summer  Autumn.



Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Gill Edigar
How is that related to catenary?
--Ediger


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.comwrote:

  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation
 of files provided by the authors.

 Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
 For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
 e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple
 entrances.

 CONCATENATION
 *1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
 *2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

 Middle English, from Late Latin *concatenatus,* past participle of *
 concatenare* to link together, from Latin *com-* + *catena* chain
 First Known Use: 15th century


 There is even a website using the word!

 www.concatenation.org
 *The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation* is the
 seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the
 (1987-1997)
 annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention
 and European SF
 convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the
 northern hemisphere's
 Spring, Summer  Autumn.




Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Ted Samsel
The cat ate the canary?

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote:

 How is that related to catenary?
 --Ediger


 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.comwrote:

  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation
 of files provided by the authors.

 Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
 For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
 e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple
 entrances.

 CONCATENATION
 *1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
 *2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

 Middle English, from Late Latin *concatenatus,* past participle of *
 concatenare* to link together, from Latin *com-* + *catena* chain
 First Known Use: 15th century


 There is even a website using the word!

 www.concatenation.org
 *The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation* is the
 seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the
 (1987-1997)
 annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention
 and European SF
 convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the
 northern hemisphere's
 Spring, Summer  Autumn.





[Texascavers] cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman

2013-06-21 Thread Logan McNatt
Today's Austin American-Statesman has an article on page B1 titled Caves' face-lift to allow rainwater into aquifer, about Blowing Sink 
Preserve in south Austin.  There is a photo of Nico Hauwert , a senior environmental scientist for the city's Watershed Protection 
Department.  The City Council awarded the contract to Zara Environmental (Jean Krejca and Peter Sprouse, et al.) to spend about two months 
building what are essentially concrete chimneys anchored as deep as 50 feet into the caves.


Unfortunately the full online article is available only to subscribers, but 
that might change in a day or two.


http://www.statesman.com/s/news/local/


 City Council approves $246,000 for cave repairs in South Austin

By Farzad Mashhood http://www.statesman.com/staff/farzad-mashhood/

American-Statesman Staff

Five caves tucked in a South Austin preserve will get a $246,000 face-lift to allow more rainwater to pass through them and into the aquifer 
that feeds Barton Springs.


The Austin City Council approved the spending on Thursday.




Re: [Texascavers] cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman

2013-06-21 Thread Katherine Arens
I have it as a full pdf, let me know if you want it -- the list doesn't like 
attachments, if i remember rightly.

The wood structures were mostly built by Bill Russell, for considerably less 
than a quarter million dollars.
katie
On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

 Today's Austin American-Statesman has an article on page B1 titled Caves' 
 face-lift to allow rainwater into aquifer, about Blowing Sink Preserve in 
 south Austin.  There is a photo of Nico Hauwert , a senior environmental 
 scientist for the city's Watershed Protection Department.  The City Council 
 awarded the contract to Zara Environmental (Jean Krejca and Peter Sprouse, et 
 al.) to spend about two months building what are essentially concrete 
 chimneys anchored as deep as 50 feet into the caves.
 
 Unfortunately the full online article is available only to subscribers, but 
 that might change in a day or two.
 
 
 http://www.statesman.com/s/news/local/
 
 City Council approves $246,000 for cave repairs in South Austin
 
 By Farzad Mashhood
 
 American-Statesman Staff
 
 Five caves tucked in a South Austin preserve will get a $246,000 face-lift to 
 allow more rainwater to pass through them and into the aquifer that feeds 
 Barton Springs.
 
 The Austin City Council approved the spending on Thursday.
 
 


Katherine Arens Office Phones: (512) 232-6363
ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic Studies   FAX (512) 471-4025
2505 University Ave, C3300  Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
University of Texas at Austin   Office:  Burdine 320
Austin, TX  78712-1088

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 ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\.
  ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\.
./'..|'.|| |\`` '` '` ''/| ||.`|..`\.
  ./'.||'. .  .  .`||.`\.
 /'|||'.|| {   } ||.`|||`\
'.|||'.||| {   } |||.`|||.`
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[SWR] Silver Fire

2013-06-21 Thread Steve Peerman
All,
For those who are familiar with the caves in the Black Range, the 
Silver Fire has swept past Coffee Cave.  Robinson's and other caves in the area 
are safe, for the moment.  The fire is burning north and heading towards 
Palomas Creek Cave, but it is about 7-8 miles from the fire boundary.  However, 
with the predicted wind today, who knows what will happen.
Today's boundary can be viewed at 
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/NMGNF/2013-06-09-1228-Silver/picts/2013_06_21-10.32.34.970-CDT.jpeg

Steve Peerman

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you 
didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away from 
the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written this.

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Re: [SWR] Silver Fire

2013-06-21 Thread John Corcoran
Steve,

I assume you heard that Santa Fe NF is about to close to all uses.  Any
hints about Lincoln?

Regards,

John

-Original Message-
From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of
Steve Peerman
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:52 AM
To: Mailing List for SWR
Subject: [SWR] Silver Fire

All,
For those who are familiar with the caves in the Black Range, the
Silver Fire has swept past Coffee Cave.  Robinson's and other caves in the
area are safe, for the moment.  The fire is burning north and heading
towards Palomas Creek Cave, but it is about 7-8 miles from the fire
boundary.  However, with the predicted wind today, who knows what will
happen.
Today's boundary can be viewed at
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/NMGNF/2013-06-09-1228-Silver/picts/2013_06_21
-10.32.34.970-CDT.jpeg

Steve Peerman

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written
this.

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[Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

2013-06-21 Thread Mixon Bill
Thanks, George and NCKRI. I've always been frustrated that the  
proceedings of the previous conferences in the series were allowed to  
fall into the hands of commercial scientific publishers who priced  
them for libraries and professionals, with the result that I own few  
or none of them. The free PDF is great, and the layout is, for the  
most part, fully commercial-quality. It's not just a concatenation of  
files provided by the authors. I'll be having made a bound black-and- 
white printout, but of course I'll also keep a copy of the PDF on  
disk, because some fraction of the numerous color images really  
require seeing the color for understanding. There are quite a few  
papers about Texas.--Mixon


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RE: [Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

2013-06-21 Thread George Veni
Bill,

Thanks for the good words. At NCKRI we're trying to support open access to 
publications as much as possible. That is one of the big reasons we're working 
on the Karst Information Portal as a giant virtual international cave and karst 
library. I've seen too many people, who really need information to do good 
works, blocked from receiving it because it is too expensive to buy. It is a 
tough choice to do this because selling publications can provide us small but 
needed funding, but providing open access publications is just the right thing 
to do. I won't swear that we'll never print another publication, but the next 
six publications we have on the horizon (not counting our annual report which 
be available in both print and digital format) are all planned as digital.

George


George Veni, Ph.D.
Executive Director
National Cave and Karst Research Institute
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
Office: 575-887-5517
Mobile: 210-863-5919
Fax: 575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org


-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

Thanks, George and NCKRI. I've always been frustrated that the proceedings of 
the previous conferences in the series were allowed to fall into the hands of 
commercial scientific publishers who priced them for libraries and 
professionals, with the result that I own few or none of them. The free PDF is 
great, and the layout is, for the most part, fully commercial-quality. It's not 
just a concatenation of files provided by the authors. I'll be having made a 
bound black-and- white printout, but of course I'll also keep a copy of the PDF 
on disk, because some fraction of the numerous color images really require 
seeing the color for understanding. There are quite a few papers about 
Texas.--Mixon

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[Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Logan McNatt

On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation of files 
provided by the authors.

Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple 
entrances.

CONCATENATION
*1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
*2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

Middle English, from Late Latin /concatenatus,/ past participle of 
/concatenare/ to link together, from Latin /com-/ + /catena/ chain
First Known Use: 15th century


There is even a website using the word!

www.concatenation.org
/*The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation*/ is the
seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the (1987-1997)
annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention and 
European SF
convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the 
northern hemisphere's
Spring, Summer  Autumn.



Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Bill Bentley
The return signal path will be concatenated from each fiber node. 


- Original Message - 
  From: Logan McNatt 
  To: Mixon Bill 
  Cc: Cavers Texas 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:27 AM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation


  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation of 
files provided by the authors.

  Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
  For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
  e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple 
entrances.

  CONCATENATION

  1. a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
  2. the act of linking together or the state of being joined

  Middle English, from Late Latin concatenatus, past participle of concatenare 
to link together, from Latin com- + catena chain 
  First Known Use: 15th century


  There is even a website using the word!

  www.concatenation.org
  The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation is the 
  seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the (1987-1997) 
  annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention and 
European SF
  convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the 
northern hemisphere's
  Spring, Summer  Autumn.



Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Gill Edigar
How is that related to catenary?
--Ediger


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.comwrote:

  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation
 of files provided by the authors.

 Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
 For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
 e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple
 entrances.

 CONCATENATION
 *1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
 *2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

 Middle English, from Late Latin *concatenatus,* past participle of *
 concatenare* to link together, from Latin *com-* + *catena* chain
 First Known Use: 15th century


 There is even a website using the word!

 www.concatenation.org
 *The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation* is the
 seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the
 (1987-1997)
 annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention
 and European SF
 convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the
 northern hemisphere's
 Spring, Summer  Autumn.




Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Ted Samsel
The cat ate the canary?

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote:

 How is that related to catenary?
 --Ediger


 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.comwrote:

  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation
 of files provided by the authors.

 Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
 For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
 e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple
 entrances.

 CONCATENATION
 *1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
 *2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

 Middle English, from Late Latin *concatenatus,* past participle of *
 concatenare* to link together, from Latin *com-* + *catena* chain
 First Known Use: 15th century


 There is even a website using the word!

 www.concatenation.org
 *The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation* is the
 seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the
 (1987-1997)
 annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention
 and European SF
 convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the
 northern hemisphere's
 Spring, Summer  Autumn.





[Texascavers] cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman

2013-06-21 Thread Logan McNatt
Today's Austin American-Statesman has an article on page B1 titled Caves' face-lift to allow rainwater into aquifer, about Blowing Sink 
Preserve in south Austin.  There is a photo of Nico Hauwert , a senior environmental scientist for the city's Watershed Protection 
Department.  The City Council awarded the contract to Zara Environmental (Jean Krejca and Peter Sprouse, et al.) to spend about two months 
building what are essentially concrete chimneys anchored as deep as 50 feet into the caves.


Unfortunately the full online article is available only to subscribers, but 
that might change in a day or two.


http://www.statesman.com/s/news/local/


 City Council approves $246,000 for cave repairs in South Austin

By Farzad Mashhood http://www.statesman.com/staff/farzad-mashhood/

American-Statesman Staff

Five caves tucked in a South Austin preserve will get a $246,000 face-lift to allow more rainwater to pass through them and into the aquifer 
that feeds Barton Springs.


The Austin City Council approved the spending on Thursday.




Re: [Texascavers] cave article in today's Austin American-Statesman

2013-06-21 Thread Katherine Arens
I have it as a full pdf, let me know if you want it -- the list doesn't like 
attachments, if i remember rightly.

The wood structures were mostly built by Bill Russell, for considerably less 
than a quarter million dollars.
katie
On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

 Today's Austin American-Statesman has an article on page B1 titled Caves' 
 face-lift to allow rainwater into aquifer, about Blowing Sink Preserve in 
 south Austin.  There is a photo of Nico Hauwert , a senior environmental 
 scientist for the city's Watershed Protection Department.  The City Council 
 awarded the contract to Zara Environmental (Jean Krejca and Peter Sprouse, et 
 al.) to spend about two months building what are essentially concrete 
 chimneys anchored as deep as 50 feet into the caves.
 
 Unfortunately the full online article is available only to subscribers, but 
 that might change in a day or two.
 
 
 http://www.statesman.com/s/news/local/
 
 City Council approves $246,000 for cave repairs in South Austin
 
 By Farzad Mashhood
 
 American-Statesman Staff
 
 Five caves tucked in a South Austin preserve will get a $246,000 face-lift to 
 allow more rainwater to pass through them and into the aquifer that feeds 
 Barton Springs.
 
 The Austin City Council approved the spending on Thursday.
 
 


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[SWR] Silver Fire

2013-06-21 Thread Steve Peerman
All,
For those who are familiar with the caves in the Black Range, the 
Silver Fire has swept past Coffee Cave.  Robinson's and other caves in the area 
are safe, for the moment.  The fire is burning north and heading towards 
Palomas Creek Cave, but it is about 7-8 miles from the fire boundary.  However, 
with the predicted wind today, who knows what will happen.
Today's boundary can be viewed at 
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/NMGNF/2013-06-09-1228-Silver/picts/2013_06_21-10.32.34.970-CDT.jpeg

Steve Peerman

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you 
didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away from 
the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
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Re: [SWR] Silver Fire

2013-06-21 Thread John Corcoran
Steve,

I assume you heard that Santa Fe NF is about to close to all uses.  Any
hints about Lincoln?

Regards,

John

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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:52 AM
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Subject: [SWR] Silver Fire

All,
For those who are familiar with the caves in the Black Range, the
Silver Fire has swept past Coffee Cave.  Robinson's and other caves in the
area are safe, for the moment.  The fire is burning north and heading
towards Palomas Creek Cave, but it is about 7-8 miles from the fire
boundary.  However, with the predicted wind today, who knows what will
happen.
Today's boundary can be viewed at
http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/NMGNF/2013-06-09-1228-Silver/picts/2013_06_21
-10.32.34.970-CDT.jpeg

Steve Peerman

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things
you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away
from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written
this.

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[Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

2013-06-21 Thread Mixon Bill
Thanks, George and NCKRI. I've always been frustrated that the  
proceedings of the previous conferences in the series were allowed to  
fall into the hands of commercial scientific publishers who priced  
them for libraries and professionals, with the result that I own few  
or none of them. The free PDF is great, and the layout is, for the  
most part, fully commercial-quality. It's not just a concatenation of  
files provided by the authors. I'll be having made a bound black-and- 
white printout, but of course I'll also keep a copy of the PDF on  
disk, because some fraction of the numerous color images really  
require seeing the color for understanding. There are quite a few  
papers about Texas.--Mixon


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RE: [Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

2013-06-21 Thread George Veni
Bill,

Thanks for the good words. At NCKRI we're trying to support open access to 
publications as much as possible. That is one of the big reasons we're working 
on the Karst Information Portal as a giant virtual international cave and karst 
library. I've seen too many people, who really need information to do good 
works, blocked from receiving it because it is too expensive to buy. It is a 
tough choice to do this because selling publications can provide us small but 
needed funding, but providing open access publications is just the right thing 
to do. I won't swear that we'll never print another publication, but the next 
six publications we have on the horizon (not counting our annual report which 
be available in both print and digital format) are all planned as digital.

George


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-Original Message-
From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 9:30 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] Sinkhole Conference proceedings

Thanks, George and NCKRI. I've always been frustrated that the proceedings of 
the previous conferences in the series were allowed to fall into the hands of 
commercial scientific publishers who priced them for libraries and 
professionals, with the result that I own few or none of them. The free PDF is 
great, and the layout is, for the most part, fully commercial-quality. It's not 
just a concatenation of files provided by the authors. I'll be having made a 
bound black-and- white printout, but of course I'll also keep a copy of the PDF 
on disk, because some fraction of the numerous color images really require 
seeing the color for understanding. There are quite a few papers about 
Texas.--Mixon

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[Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Logan McNatt

On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation of files 
provided by the authors.

Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple 
entrances.

CONCATENATION
*1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
*2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

Middle English, from Late Latin /concatenatus,/ past participle of 
/concatenare/ to link together, from Latin /com-/ + /catena/ chain
First Known Use: 15th century


There is even a website using the word!

www.concatenation.org
/*The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation*/ is the
seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the (1987-1997)
annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention and 
European SF
convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the 
northern hemisphere's
Spring, Summer  Autumn.



Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Bill Bentley
The return signal path will be concatenated from each fiber node. 


- Original Message - 
  From: Logan McNatt 
  To: Mixon Bill 
  Cc: Cavers Texas 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:27 AM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation


  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation of 
files provided by the authors.

  Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
  For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
  e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple 
entrances.

  CONCATENATION

  1. a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
  2. the act of linking together or the state of being joined

  Middle English, from Late Latin concatenatus, past participle of concatenare 
to link together, from Latin com- + catena chain 
  First Known Use: 15th century


  There is even a website using the word!

  www.concatenation.org
  The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation is the 
  seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the (1987-1997) 
  annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention and 
European SF
  convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the 
northern hemisphere's
  Spring, Summer  Autumn.



Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Gill Edigar
How is that related to catenary?
--Ediger


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.comwrote:

  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation
 of files provided by the authors.

 Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
 For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
 e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple
 entrances.

 CONCATENATION
 *1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
 *2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

 Middle English, from Late Latin *concatenatus,* past participle of *
 concatenare* to link together, from Latin *com-* + *catena* chain
 First Known Use: 15th century


 There is even a website using the word!

 www.concatenation.org
 *The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation* is the
 seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the
 (1987-1997)
 annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention
 and European SF
 convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the
 northern hemisphere's
 Spring, Summer  Autumn.




Re: [Texascavers] Re: (Texas Cavers) concatenation

2013-06-21 Thread Ted Samsel
The cat ate the canary?

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote:

 How is that related to catenary?
 --Ediger


 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Logan McNatt lmcn...@austin.rr.comwrote:

  On 6/21/2013 10:30 AM, Mixon Bill wrote:  It's not just a concatenation
 of files provided by the authors.

 Thanks to Bill Mixon for our Texas Cavers Word for the Day
 For fun, try using it in a sentence discussing caves!
 e.g.  Mammoth Cave is merely a concatenation of passages from multiple
 entrances.

 CONCATENATION
 *1.* a series of interconnected events, concepts, etc.
 *2.* the act of linking together or the state of being joined

 Middle English, from Late Latin *concatenatus,* past participle of *
 concatenare* to link together, from Latin *com-* + *catena* chain
 First Known Use: 15th century


 There is even a website using the word!

 www.concatenation.org
 *The Science Fact  Science Fiction Concatenation* is the
 seasonal review of science fact and science fiction. Formerly the
 (1987-1997)
 annual (paper) magazine distributed at the British national SF convention
 and European SF
 convention, today its three principal internet editions come out in the
 northern hemisphere's
 Spring, Summer  Autumn.