Re: [Texascavers] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same
Hundreds and thousands? Really? -Stefan From: Texascavers [texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers [texascavers@texascavers.com] Sent: 30 September 2014 20:03 To: SWR Mailing List; texascavers list Subject: [Texascavers] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same Why hundreds of thousands of bats are killed each year by wind turbines: http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/9249/20140930/to-bats-trees-and-turbines-are-one-in-the-same.htm Lee Skinner -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Bats, Trees and Turbines
Yes Stef. Really. Crash Mobile email from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2014, at 3:21 AM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Hundreds and thousands? Really? -Stefan ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same
This has been a big problem for birds for years, especially large groups of migrating birds. From: stefan.crea...@arm.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com; s...@caver.net Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 08:21:22 + Subject: Re: [SWR] [Texascavers] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same Another message from the Southwestern Region Email List! Hundreds and thousands? Really? -Stefan From: Texascavers [texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Lee H. Skinner via Texascavers [texascavers@texascavers.com] Sent: 30 September 2014 20:03 To: SWR Mailing List; texascavers list Subject: [Texascavers] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same Why hundreds of thousands of bats are killed each year by wind turbines: http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/9249/20140930/to-bats-trees-and-turbines-are-one-in-the-same.htm Lee Skinner -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England Wales, Company No: 2548782 ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET. Remember when you are replying to a message, you are replying to ALL on this list. This a default setting. If you want to reply to the individual sender then click reply, go delete the name out of the To: field and insert who you want to reply to. Of course, you have to know the email address of the person you are wanting to reply to. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same
I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are and I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I would like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers from the turbines. Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need Rolling Stones On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Louise Power via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: This has been a big problem for birds for years, especially large groups of migrating birds. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same
Sheryl, It's not a simple problem with an easy solution. There has been a whole lot of research regarding bats and wind turbines. An excellent source of information is www.batsandwind.org Jim Kennedy, the bat guy cavercr...@gmail.com Mobile email from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are and I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I would like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers from the turbines. Sheryl Rieck ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same
This is a layman's thoughts on it, but I would think some form of sonic alarm would keep them away, something that they could only hear and would deter them safely. I know some advocates suggest we tear down every turbine, but I question the motives on this idea, wondering if it's not big oil and energy companies behind a lot of it. How bad is the impact on our wildlife from these, compared to other forms of energy generation (coal fired energy and coal extraction for instance). On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are and I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I would like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers from the turbines. Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need Rolling Stones On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Louise Power via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: This has been a big problem for birds for years, especially large groups of migrating birds. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SWR] To Bats, Trees and Turbines Are One in the Same
Thanks, Jim. I was sure there had to be research going on for solutions. I'll take a look. I am also sure it is not a simple solution. I just hope a viable one is identified. Thanks, Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need Rolling Stones On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: Sheryl, It's not a simple problem with an easy solution. There has been a whole lot of research regarding bats and wind turbines. An excellent source of information is www.batsandwind.org Jim Kennedy, the bat guy cavercr...@gmail.com Mobile email from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: I keep seeing this posted as a 'problem' and it is. I don't see posts that consider solutions. I am sure there are viable solutions. There always are and I think that should be the focus. Of course, I may have missed the posts discussing ways to solve the problem. I don't always read every word. I would like to know if there are any thoughts on how to protect the fliers from the turbines. Sheryl Rieck ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Robber Baron Open House on Nov. 1st
The next Robber Baron Open House is coming up on Sat, Nov 1, 2014! This is a great event for the public to visit and learn about a wild cave and also a great fundraising opportunity for TCMA. Many volunteers are needed to make this happen and we would love to have your help either in the cave or on the surface. We request that everyone be at the cave by 8:00 am at the latest since there is a lot to setup. If you can be there earlier, that would be even better. Lunch and water will be provided to all volunteers, however if can bring you own water bottle that would be better, especially if you plan to work in the cave. We will need at least 15-20 people working in the cave and another 15 or more on the surface. If you know of anyone else who would like to help, let them know - we could use the assistance! People who plan to work in the cave will need to bring all of their own gear. Every bit of loaner gear is in use by the public. Kurt and Kitty Menking are planning to host a covered dish party at their place after the RBC open house. (Bring something you want to share.) There will be burgers, venison sausage, and okra on the grill. Please RSVP if you plan to attend the after party so that our hosts can know how many to prepare for. Accommodations can be found for anyone staying overnight from out of town. It is likely that there will be a Government Canyon Survey on the day following the open for those wanting to stay and go caving. Marvin Miller is the contact for that survey, so check in with him if you would like to go to Government Canyon. Let me know if you can come and help with this big TCMA fund-raising event! We have a lot of fun each time we do it, so we hope you can join us to represent TCMA. Please contact Evelynn Mitchell if you can volunteer at evel...@satx.rr.com or 210-288-7872.___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
