[Texascavers] If you know Bob Liebman

[Bill Steele via Texascavers]

I'm going to send him a letter tomorrow.

Bill Steele

Bob Liebman Update 

If you are a relatively new caver and don't remember Bob & Bob there's no need 
to read further.

As I'm sure you know, Bob Liebman is one of the Bobs in Bob & Bob. His cave 
gear sales operation was a fixture at many caving events from around 1973 until 
the early 2000s.

Bob is currently being treated for cancer and is in a rehab center near 
Lewisburg, West Virginia. I was in the area this weekend stopped in to visit 
him. He is really really weak, but he's alert and (as always) very
talkative. He seemed to be in fairly good spirits, but lamented that Bob & Bob 
is now just a memory.

Several times during my visit he mentioned that he has received letters from 
cavers thanking him for the personal service and advice he gave them as they 
were getting started rather than just selling them stuff
and then ignoring them.

If Bob Liebman was instrumental in getting you properly equipped for caving 
please take a minute and write him a short note thanking him for the advise he 
gave you along with whatever you purchased. I think he will appreciate hearing 
from his over 40 years of customers.

Bob doesn't do e-mail so please write to him at the following address:

Bob Liebman
PO Box 441
Lewisburg, WV 24901

Please pass this message on to any other cave-related e-mail lists.

Bob Hoke


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[Texascavers] Famous cavers in the news

[David via Texascavers]

The caver in the link below has attended some TSA functions.   I will let
him or someone else elaborate.


http://m.hsuoracle.com/news/michael-taylor-return-of-the-caveman/article_55a01fb2-3407-11e7-b5d3-2fbbdf4a5442.html?mode=jqm
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Re: [Texascavers] caves for sale

[David via Texascavers]

I would donate a dollar if TCMA buys "access" to "River Styx Cave."
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas gypsum caves for sale

[Terry Holsinger via Texascavers]

My bad on that, it's still for sale, from the listing:

"The locals will recognize this property as
Beasley's cave or also known as Walkup's Cave"

"In my opinion the best part of the property is BEASLEY'S CAVE!! This 
cave is awesome! I personally have not made it all the way thru this 
cave but I soon will!! It has the most beautiful rock formations!! You 
have to crawl in some parts, but it is tall enough to walk thru most 
of the caverns. The path does have spots of cold, clean waterbut 
so far the deepest was a short area that was knee deep. I was very 
nervous about bats and spidershowever this cave is super clean!! 
After being in the cave for over an hour I saw very few bats and no 
insects! Students from Texas Tech have explored and studied the cave 
as well as bat experts. I will be posting pictures of the inside of 
the cave later plus I will try to measure how long the cave actually 
it (I have heard rumors it comes out on the Pease River). I will be 
glad to give tours of the cave but only to serious potential buyers 
and only after a disclosure is signed.


This property would be perfect for a family or a group of friends 
wanting a place to have fun, relax or hunt. This would be perfect for 
the business that needs a retreat to send their clients and employees! 
Another thought may be to create a commercial park for people to rent 
out!"



Terry H.
On 5/8/2017 7:47 PM, Terry Holsinger via Texascavers wrote:

Ben, Looks like that one may have been sold, but there is another one
for sale as well

http://www.rollingplainsrealty.com/Land-and-Lot-listings.html

Terry H.

On 5/8/2017 7:12 PM, Louise Power via Texascavers wrote:

how much is this little gem of a section of land w/cave?



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*Subject:* [Texascavers] Texas gypsum caves for sale
This sign was posted in Quanah in Hardeman County.


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas gypsum caves for sale

[Terry Holsinger via Texascavers]

Ben, Looks like that one may have been sold, but there is another one 
for sale as well


http://www.rollingplainsrealty.com/Land-and-Lot-listings.html

Terry H.

On 5/8/2017 7:12 PM, Louise Power via Texascavers wrote:

how much is this little gem of a section of land w/cave?



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*Subject:* [Texascavers] Texas gypsum caves for sale
This sign was posted in Quanah in Hardeman County.


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas gypsum caves for sale

[Gill Ediger via Texascavers]

I don't know if I have room in my backyard for that big a cave.--Ediger 

On Monday, May 8, 2017 7:01 PM, Ben Hutchins via Texascavers 
 wrote:
 

 This sign was posted in Quanah in Hardeman 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas gypsum caves for sale

[Louise Power via Texascavers]

how much is this little gem of a section of land w/cave?



From: Texascavers  on behalf of Ben 
Hutchins via Texascavers 
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 5:01 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
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Subject: [Texascavers] Texas gypsum caves for sale

This sign was posted in Quanah in Hardeman County.
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Re: [Texascavers] Mailinst list and spam

[Galen Falgout via Texascavers]

Thanks

On May 7, 2017 10:58 PM, "Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers" <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Louise, not everyone does that though, and it seems some people have
> indeed marked at least some of our mail as spam via their clients, and all
> it takes is one person doing it at each service to cause problems for
> everyone else using the same email domain.
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 1:26 PM, Louise Power via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> Just a note to mailing list. I have both *hotmail* and a* Mac computer*.
>> I've not had mine tampered with. I don't know about other computers, but if
>> the address for texas cavers is in your Outlook (now the administrator for
>> former hotmail) Mail box, the system won't tamper with that mail. I don't
>> know about the stuff that consistently lands in the Junk Mail box. But I do
>> know if you report mail as a phishing scam, you'll notice your junk mail
>> decreasing markedly. I'm down to about 1 or 2 a week.
>>
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>> *From:* Texascavers  on behalf of
>> Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 7, 2017 9:57 AM
>> *To:* Cavetex
>> *Cc:* Charles Goldsmith
>> *Subject:* [Texascavers] Mailinst list and spam
>>
>> We had 63 people from the list get removed this morning, all from aol,
>> yahoo, hotmail and AT owned domains (swbell.net and etc).
>>
>> I've added all of you back in.
>>
>> I have a feeling that some people on these email domains are marking some
>> email from our mailing list as spam, and these services get enough of
>> these, start blocking email from the domain, texascavers.com
>>
>> There isn't a lot we can do about this, with over 350 people on this
>> list, with new people being added constantly, education of people will be
>> difficult.
>>
>> If you are one of these people on aol, yahoo, hotmail, etc, I suggest you
>> create an account on google or another free service for emails from here as
>> an alternative.   I know it's a PITA and not ideal, but not much more I can
>> do with it.
>>
>> I will continue to work at it from my end, but if you are on one of these
>> email addresses, you are likely missing a lot of the messages from people
>> anyway.
>>
>> Anyone can view the archives at one of the following:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cavetex
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/
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>> Let me know if you have any questions or comments
>> Charles
>> mailing list admin
>> wo...@justfamily.org
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