Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Bill Steele via Texascavers]

Thanks for writing.

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> This has not happened to my knowledge but has been discussed as an 
> alternative for at least one cave recently.
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> Has TCMA ever leased a cave? 
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a 
>>> strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with 
>>> organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located 
>>> on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope 
>>> of the TCMA at this time.
>>> 
>>> Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the 
>>> TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a 
>>> cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will 
>>> give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This 
>>> will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by 
>>> cavers so they can find that new big project or get  their new discoveries 
>>> recorded for posterity. 
>>> 
>>>  Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is 
>>> on is for sale at this time. 
>>> 
>>> Gregg
>>> 
 On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
  wrote:
 How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? 
 
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting 
> :) Thanks for sharing!
> 
> Scott Cogburn 
> GHG
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. 
>> 
>> Gregg
>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Great story
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside 
>>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many 
>>> stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>>> 
>>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 
>>> Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
>>> It is better than my synopsis below. 
>>> 
>>> LowGun
>>> 
>>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and 
>>> Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two 
>>> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave 
>>> where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant 
>>> unexplored section of the cave.
>>> 
>>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, 
>>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and 
>>> met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving 
>>> at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators 
>>> feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm 
>>> reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised 
>>> them with sunlight coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

This has not happened to my knowledge but has been discussed as an
alternative for at least one cave recently.

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Has TCMA ever leased a cave?
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a
> strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with
> organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located
> on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope
> of the TCMA at this time.
>
> Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with
> the TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there
> isn't a cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase
> will give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives.
> This will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by
> cavers so they can find that new big project or get  their new discoveries
> recorded for posterity.
>
>  Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight
> is on is for sale at this time.
>
> Gregg
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving?
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C  wrote:
>>
>> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting
>> :) Thanks for sharing!
>>
>> Scott Cogburn
>> GHG
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of.
>>
>> Gregg
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Great story
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers <
>>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside
>>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in
>>> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>>>
>>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50
>>> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467.
>>> It is better than my synopsis below.
>>>
>>> LowGun
>>>
>>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and
>>> Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two
>>> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where
>>> they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant
>>> unexplored section of the cave.
>>>
>>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance,
>>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met
>>> up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the
>>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay
>>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and
>>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight
>>> coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[John Brooks via Texascavers]

It has been discussed in the past - but no, TCMA has not "leased" any caves.

But it seems like a good way to secure access to caves that people would like 
to visit.

It is a shame that Beasley's Cave just sold. It might have been too large of a 
property. But a gyp cave would have made a nice addition to the TCMA.

John Brooks

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> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Has TCMA ever leased a cave? 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a strong 
>> organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with 
>> organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located 
>> on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope 
>> of the TCMA at this time.
>> 
>> Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the 
>> TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a 
>> cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will give 
>> a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This will 
>> also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by cavers so 
>> they can find that new big project or get  their new discoveries recorded 
>> for posterity. 
>> 
>>  Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is 
>> on is for sale at this time. 
>> 
>> Gregg
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? 
>>> 
 On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C  wrote:
 
 I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting 
 :) Thanks for sharing!
 
 Scott Cogburn 
 GHG
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. 
> 
> Gregg
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> Great story
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside 
>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories 
>> in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>> 
>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 
>> Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
>> It is better than my synopsis below. 
>> 
>> LowGun
>> 
>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and 
>> Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two 
>> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave 
>> where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant 
>> unexplored section of the cave.
>> 
>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, 
>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and 
>> met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving 
>> at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators 
>> feigned dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm 
>> reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised 
>> them with sunlight coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Bill Steele via Texascavers]

Has TCMA ever leased a cave? 

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a strong 
> organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with 
> organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located 
> on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope of 
> the TCMA at this time.
> 
> Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the 
> TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a 
> cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will give 
> a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This will also 
> mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by cavers so they 
> can find that new big project or get  their new discoveries recorded for 
> posterity. 
> 
>  Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is 
> on is for sale at this time. 
> 
> Gregg
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? 
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting 
>>> :) Thanks for sharing!
>>> 
>>> Scott Cogburn 
>>> GHG
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
  wrote:
 
 This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. 
 
 Gregg
 
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> Great story
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
> 
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside 
> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories 
> in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
> 
> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 
> Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
> It is better than my synopsis below. 
> 
> LowGun
> 
> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick 
> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two 
> members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave 
> where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant 
> unexplored section of the cave.
> 
> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, 
> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met 
> up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at 
> the bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned 
> dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of 
> Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with 
> sunlight coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

That's a great idea Bill. The TCMA has committed itself to building a
strong organizational foundation so it can, in the future, partner with
organizations to purchase large tracts with caves. Midnight cave is located
on a very large ranch and big purchases like that are not within the scope
of the TCMA at this time.

Currently the TCMA is actively engaged in the purchase of property with the
TSS to house the yet unnamed Texas caving headquarters. While there isn't a
cave on the property and it is a little less exciting the purchase will
give a permanent home to Texas caving and it's assets and archives. This
will also mean that the TSS's archives will be more easily accessed by
cavers so they can find that new big project or get  their new discoveries
recorded for posterity.

 Also, as far as I know there is no reason to believe the ranch Midnight is
on is for sale at this time.

Gregg

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving?
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C  wrote:
>
> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting
> :) Thanks for sharing!
>
> Scott Cogburn
> GHG
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of.
>
> Gregg
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
>> Great story
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers <
>> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>>
>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside
>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in
>> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>>
>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50
>> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467.
>> It is better than my synopsis below.
>>
>> LowGun
>>
>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick
>> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members
>> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had
>> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section
>> of the cave.
>>
>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance,
>> and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met
>> up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the
>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay
>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and
>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight
>> coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[travis--- via Texascavers]

Midnight Cave is in the center of a large ranch.  The new owners have no 
intention of splitting it out of the existing property.  They are being 
wonderful stewards of the cave so it is not an issue for now.  

 

TCMA has an acquisition board that is actively looking for opportunities to buy 
good caves, in time, more will come!!

 

Travis

 

 

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How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? 


On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C <scotts.la...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:scotts.la...@yahoo.com> > wrote:

I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) 
Thanks for sharing!

 

Scott Cogburn 

GHG

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > wrote:

This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. 

 

Gregg

 

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > wrote:

Great story

 

 

Sent from my iPhoneiPhone


On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > wrote:

In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight 
Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore of 
the Carta Valley cavers.

Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years of 
Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
It is better than my synopsis below. 

LowGun

The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick Lucas 
a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members of the 
team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had pushed 
through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section of the 
cave.

The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and 
pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up with 
Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the bottom of 
the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay and 
consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and Orion. A 
brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming through the 
new entrance.

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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

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TCMA...That’s totally awesome caving stuff, of course! 

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> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? 
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C  wrote:
>> 
>> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) 
>> Thanks for sharing!
>> 
>> Scott Cogburn 
>> GHG
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. 
>>> 
>>> Gregg
>>> 
 On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers 
  wrote:
 Great story
 
 
 
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 On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
  wrote:
 
 In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside 
 Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories 
 in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
 
 Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years 
 of Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
 It is better than my synopsis below. 
 
 LowGun
 
 The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick 
 Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members 
 of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they 
 had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored 
 section of the cave.
 
 The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and 
 pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up 
 with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the 
 bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned 
 dismay and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of 
 Jan and Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with 
 sunlight coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Bill Steele via Texascavers]

How about the TCMA acquiring Midnight Cave and more caves for caving? 

> On Nov 6, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Scott C  wrote:
> 
> I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) 
> Thanks for sharing!
> 
> Scott Cogburn 
> GHG
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. 
>> 
>> Gregg
>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Great story
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside 
>>> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in 
>>> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>>> 
>>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years 
>>> of Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
>>> It is better than my synopsis below. 
>>> 
>>> LowGun
>>> 
>>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick 
>>> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members 
>>> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had 
>>> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section 
>>> of the cave.
>>> 
>>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and 
>>> pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up 
>>> with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the 
>>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay 
>>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and 
>>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight 
>>> coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

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I totally agree with Gregg. This is real caving stuff that is interesting :) 
Thanks for sharing!

Scott Cogburn 
GHG

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> On Nov 6, 2017, at 8:41 AM, Gregg Williams via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of. 
> 
> Gregg
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> Great story
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight 
>> Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore 
>> of the Carta Valley cavers.
>> 
>> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years 
>> of Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
>> It is better than my synopsis below. 
>> 
>> LowGun
>> 
>> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick 
>> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members 
>> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had 
>> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section 
>> of the cave.
>> 
>> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and 
>> pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up 
>> with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the 
>> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay 
>> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and 
>> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming 
>> through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Gregg Williams via Texascavers]

This sort of stuff is what this email list should have more of.

Gregg

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 9:27 AM, James Jasek via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Great story
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhoneiPhone
>
> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside
> Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in
> the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.
>
> Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his *50
> Years of Texas Caving* pp. 458-467.
> It is better than my synopsis below.
>
> LowGun
>
> The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick
> Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members
> of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had
> pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section
> of the cave.
>
> The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and
> pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up
> with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the
> bottom of the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay
> and consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and
> Orion. A brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight
> coming through the new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[James Jasek via Texascavers]

Great story



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On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers 
 wrote:

In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside Midnight 
Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many stories in the lore of 
the Carta Valley cavers.

Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50 Years of 
Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
It is better than my synopsis below. 

LowGun

The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and Nick Lucas 
a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other two members of the 
team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the cave where they had pushed 
through the tortuous Corkscrew into a significant unexplored section of the 
cave.

The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit entrance, and 
pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower entrance and met up with 
Jan and Orion, who were not told of the discovery. Arriving at the bottom of 
the pit entrance to find no rope, the conspirators feigned dismay and 
consternation, but were disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and Orion. A 
brief quest for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming through the 
new entrance.
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Re: [Texascavers] Midnight Cave -- Lower Entrance

[Logan McNatt via Texascavers]

  
  
In Carl's message about digging open the lower entrance from inside
Midnight Cave, he didn't mention what happened next--one of many
stories in the lore of the Carta Valley cavers.

Carl's original version is in the chapter on Midnight Cave in his 50
  Years of Texas Caving pp. 458-467.
It is better than my synopsis below. 

LowGun

The successful dig gave Carl Kunath, Ron Bridgemon, Chuck Pease, and
Nick Lucas a rare opportunity to play a devilish trick on the other
two members of the team. Jan and Orion Knox were at the back of the
cave where they had pushed through the tortuous Corkscrew into a
significant unexplored section of the cave.

The dig crew exited the new entrance, walked over to the pit
entrance, and pulled up the rope. They reentered through the lower
entrance and met up with Jan and Orion, who were not told of the
discovery. Arriving at the bottom of the pit entrance to find no
rope, the conspirators feigned dismay and consternation, but were
disappointed at the calm reaction of Jan and Orion. A brief quest
for another way out surprised them with sunlight coming through the
new entrance.
  

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