texascavers Digest 1 May 2014 02:23:30 -0000 Issue 1971
Topics (messages 23749 through 23762):
TSA Convention
23749 by: Jim Kennedy
Paging Ron Rutherford
23750 by: Mark.Alman.L-3com.com
Re: Status of New Mexico Caves?
23751 by: Charles Goldsmith
sort of semi-cave related
23752 by: David
23753 by: Bill Bentley
23754 by: Butch Fralia
23755 by: Geary Schindel
Texas Caver Deadline - Monday May 5.
23756 by: Jill Orr
23758 by: Lyndon Tiu
23759 by: Stefan Creaser
AMCS at TSA
23757 by: Mixon Bill
Another Sort of Cave Related Current Story
23760 by: Preston Forsythe
Portable buildings free
23761 by: Gill Edigar
Re: TSA 2014 Spring Convention, General Agenda:
23762 by: Bennett Lee
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Austin cavers, the TCMA is looking for someone to haul its new trailer from
Ediger's house to CWAN by Friday. It's heading to San Antonio afterwards, so no
need to bring it back. Contact me offline if you have a hitch and are willing
to help out. Thanks in advance.
Jim
Mobile email from my iPhone
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Hey, Ron!
Could you give me a shout offline?
I need to talk to you about purchasing a couple of cave packs or three.
Thanks,
Mark
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Mark, mind sharing any info you receive offline?
Thanks
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:59 AM, <mark.al...@l-3com.com> wrote:
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> We would like to plan a trip out there this Fall and were wondering if the
> Forest Service, NPS, and the BLM still had Goat, Cottonwood, Black,
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> Sitting Bull Falls Cave, and the McKittrick Hill caves still closed, due to
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I was in a nursing home cafeteria today, making a 5 minute visit to an ill
cousin.
An 83 year old guy at the table who was in poor health would not shut up
and just kept rambling about whatever was on his mind. He seemed to have
some bizarre need to share his thoughts, and there was not a soul in the
building willing to listen to him.
I was just about to leave, when he started rambling about spelunking in
Indiana caves.
I only asked him to tell me more.
He wasn't a caver, but I could tell that he could talk about caves on and
on. He said his dad was one of the spectators at the Floyd Collins
rescue. He said he had been spelunking about 20 times when he was a
teenager with a carbide lamp that a friend ( who he said was a real
spelunker from Bloomington ) had loaned him, but he did not consider
himself a spelunker. He had a reliable memory of all the commercial caves
in that cave region. But I couldn't stay. He would probably enjoy a
video-taped interview.
David Locklear
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My memories of interviews with elderly people in nursing homes...consists of
great tales of caves with entrances big enough to ride a horse and wagon full
of Gold bars....it went on for miles and connects to Carlsbad Caverns at some
deep level... now if they could just remember where it was located?
Lots of weekends hiking the West Texas desert on wild goose chases...
Bill
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I was in a nursing home cafeteria today, making a 5 minute visit to an ill
>cousin.
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>An 83 year old guy at the table who was in poor health would not shut up and
>just kept rambling about whatever was on his mind. He seemed to have some
>bizarre need to share his thoughts, and there was not a soul in the building
>willing to listen to him.
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>I was just about to leave, when he started rambling about spelunking in
>Indiana caves.
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>I only asked him to tell me more.
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>He wasn't a caver, but I could tell that he could talk about caves on and on.
>He said his dad was one of the spectators at the Floyd Collins rescue. He
>said he had been spelunking about 20 times when he was a teenager with a
>carbide lamp that a friend ( who he said was a real spelunker from Bloomington
>) had loaned him, but he did not consider himself a spelunker. He had a
>reliable memory of all the commercial caves in that cave region. But I
>couldn't stay. He would probably enjoy a video-taped interview.
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>David Locklear
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I visited a cave in Oklahoma the owners called Horse Thief Cave. Story was
that horse thieves used the cave to run horses to a town 15 miles away. If
they did none of the horses was over 3’ tall and we never found the passage
leading to town. If memory serves the cave was about 300’. Caves are always
fun to romanticize and some of those stories become real in time, especially
when you’re 83!
Butch Fralia
3412 Walton Ave.
Fort Worth, TX 76133-2230
bfra...@maverickgrotto.org
(Home) 817 346-2039
(Cell) 817 229-7693
From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:15 PM
To: David
Cc: CaveTex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] sort of semi-cave related
My memories of interviews with elderly people in nursing homes...consists of
great tales of caves with entrances big enough to ride a horse and wagon full
of Gold bars....it went on for miles and connects to Carlsbad Caverns at some
deep level... now if they could just remember where it was located?
Lots of weekends hiking the West Texas desert on wild goose chases...
Bill
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
David <dlocklea...@gmail.com> wrote:
I was in a nursing home cafeteria today, making a 5 minute visit to an ill
cousin.
An 83 year old guy at the table who was in poor health would not shut up and
just kept rambling about whatever was on his mind. He seemed to have some
bizarre need to share his thoughts, and there was not a soul in the building
willing to listen to him.
I was just about to leave, when he started rambling about spelunking in Indiana
caves.
I only asked him to tell me more.
He wasn't a caver, but I could tell that he could talk about caves on and on.
He said his dad was one of the spectators at the Floyd Collins rescue. He said
he had been spelunking about 20 times when he was a teenager with a carbide
lamp that a friend ( who he said was a real spelunker from Bloomington ) had
loaned him, but he did not consider himself a spelunker. He had a reliable
memory of all the commercial caves in that cave region. But I couldn't stay.
He would probably enjoy a video-taped interview.
David Locklear
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I’ve heard some tall tales about Texas caves but the best one that I heard was
about a transmutator cave in Kentucky – and this one is true. The farmer told
me his dog chased a raccoon into a cave and got lost. About two weeks later,
the dog emerged from another cave more than five miles away and had turned into
a pig. The farmer showed me the pig (yes, it was really a pig) and the way he
knew it was his dog was that the pig liked the same brand of dog food, answered
to the same name (Arnold) and would even sleep in the same dog house. I think
the guy had separation issues.
Reminds me of the difference between bedtime stories in the north verses the
south. In the north, the bed time stories start out with “Once upon a time” and
end with “They lived happily ever after.” In the south, they start with a “You
ain’t gon’a believe this $hi# and end with “That’s how Uncle Kermit lost his
eye.”
G
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The deadline is fast approaching for the next issue of Texas Caver. Articles
and photos are still needed.
I will be completely out of reach for about two weeks - so get your
articles in and pressure and harass each other.
Unfortunately we didn't get photos of the party at Geary's house Sunday, but
the roof was breached for the first time in Schindel party history! J
Thanks to all who came or sent bon voyage messages.
Jill
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The roof caved?
Jill Orr <jill...@swbell.net> wrote:
>The deadline is fast approaching for the next issue of Texas Caver. Articles
>and photos are still needed.
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>I will be completely out of reach for about two weeks - so get your
>articles in and pressure and harass each other.
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>Unfortunately we didn't get photos of the party at Geary's house Sunday, but
>the roof was breached for the first time in Schindel party history! J
>Thanks to all who came or sent bon voyage messages.
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>Jill
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If there are no photos it didn't happen.
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From: Lyndon Tiu [lyndon....@gmail.com]
Sent: 29 April 2014 21:04
To: Jill Orr
Cc: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Caver Deadline - Monday May 5.
The roof caved?
Jill Orr <jill...@swbell.net> wrote:
The deadline is fast approaching for the next issue of Texas Caver. Articles
and photos are still needed.
I will be completely out of reach for about two weeks - so get your articles
in and pressure and harass each other.
Unfortunately we didn’t get photos of the party at Geary's house Sunday, but
the roof was breached for the first time in Schindel party history! ☺ Thanks
to all who came or sent bon voyage messages.
Jill
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The Association for Mexican Cave Studies will have a sales table open
for limited hours during the spring TSA convention this weekend,
probably during lunch and between the talks and supper on Saturday and
for an hour or so Sunday morning. I will have the most recent AMCS
publications and acquisitions
AMCS Activities Newsletter 36, June 2013, softbound $18, hardbound $28
AMCS bulletin 24, "Sulfidic Karst Springs and Speleogenesis in the
Sierra de Chiapas, 2013, $8
A Quest for the Secrets of Xibalba, published 2013 in Czech Republic,
$30
and a few other recent or popular items. If there is anything in
particular in the catalog at http://www.mexicancaves.org/pubs.html
that you would like to see and perhaps buy, e-mail sa...@mexicancaves.org
by noon on Friday and I'll take a copy.
-- Bill Mixon, AMCS sales
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Ref. the new NSS Hdqtrs in Huntsville (that's the cave related part)--This
Saturday evening there will be a Women's Roller Derby at the NSS Hall featuring
Huntsville and Louisville.
So come on down and volunteer Sat. and Sun. and take in the entertainment
Sat. evening. The Hall is rented out almost every weekend and is bringing in
some serious income to the NSS.
Preston in Western KY
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Galen Falgout has found a couple of portable buildings in Austin in pretty
good shape. One is 10x20 the other is 12x20 that are free but need moving
forthwith. The last time I had buildings moved I called Morgan Buildings
and they gave me the name of a guy who can move them. And, no, I don't want
to be a part of it. You're on your own.
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Corrected date should be:
Sunday, May 4:
7:30AM TCMA Breakfast at the CWAN Pavilion
9:00AM TCMA meeting at the CWAN Pavilion
From: caverarch [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 9:24 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TSA 2014 Spring Convention, General Agenda:
This may be a duplicate announcement, but it never arrived in my own e-mail
after I posted it to the list. So I'm re-posting it to ensure that everyone
sees it.
Roger
TSA 2014 Spring Convention, General Agenda:
Friday, May 2:
4:00PM: Registration: At the CWAN Pavilion
Free Shiner Beer: At the CWAN Pavilion
Hootenanny and Volunteer Entertainment: Sundown until... Slide Show by Peter
Sprouse! Bring your instrument, fire dancing gear, hoops, etc., and amuse and
amaze your fellow cavers!
Saturday, May 3:
8:00AM Registration at the CWAN Pavilion
9:00AM-11:45AM Presentations in the left hand passage of Cave Without a Name
11:45AM Group Photo in the Cave!
11:50 -1:30PM Lunch on your own, Salon Viewing (tent in Campground), Visit
Vendors' Row
1:30PM-4:00PM Presentations continue in the left hand passage of Cave Without a
Name
4:00PM TSA meeting, left hand passage of Cave Without a Name
4:30PM-6:30PM Vertical Gear -- Adjustment and Safety Workshop*
* slight time change from initial announcement
6:30PM Group Feed at the Pavilion
8:00PM TCMA Auction and Salon Prize Announcements
30 minutes after conclusion of auction: Music by the band RTFM
Saturday, May 3:
7:30AM TCMA Breakfast at the CWAN Pavilion
9:00AM TCMA meeting at the CWAN Pavilion
Fees (including Tent* Camping at CWAN):
$16 Individual Rate per Person
$40 Family Rate (Parents and Children)
*See CWAN personnel for full hook-up RV camping registration and fees
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