On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Radhakrishnan Nerur Ramanathan wrote: > >
> Brahmins--an interesting analysis > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/USBrahmins/conversations/topics/95835;_ylc=X3oDMTJzbHJoY3JnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzEzMTUxMTkxBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA3NTk5MQRtc2dJZAM5NTgzNQRzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxNDcyNjMyMTMw> > > > > > Accusations:: > --------------- > > > They say: > > > > >> > >> > 1. Indian Brahmins have been oppressing the lower caste > >> population in India. > >> > >> > 2. Brahmins introduced the inhuman > >> "untouchability" > >> > >> > 3. Brahmins are cunning, parasitic exploiters and > >> creators of the iniquitous caste system. > >> > >> > 4. Indian sub-continent's biggest problem was 5000 > >> years of Brahmin oppression! > >> > >> > 5. Brahmins never allowed others to read and write or > >> to learn Sanskrit! > >> > >> > 6. Brahmins are arrogant, dis-respective, communal and > >> abusive extremists who whip the dalits (lower caste Hindus) > >> till they die. > >> > >> > 7. Brahmins exploited and continue to exploit everyone > >> else. > >> > >> > 8. Brahmins authored the Hindu scriptures just to > >> ensure their own highest position in the social > >> hierarchy. > ------------ ----------- > >> > >> > > >> > >> > The list is endless! And any educated person believes > >> this as 100% truth. Even those who born in today's > >> Brahmin caste are apologetic about their birth due to these > >> "truths"! > > >> > > >> > >> > However, these 'truth' arguments clearly lack > >> historical validity and logical consistency. It is merely a > >> case of “repeat a lie a hundred times and it will become > >> the truth”. (Joseph Goebbels' theory). It is amazing > >> to see that how fiction can become truth > >> in course of time! > >> > > >> > > > Retardations > --------------- > >> > >> > Let's examine truth based on facts and real > >> history. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > To start with, there is no SINGLE Brahmin god in > >> Hinduism! All gods are from backward castes, dalits and > >> tribals. Brahmins never created the concept of Gods in > >> Hinduism. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > There was no even SINGLE Brahmin King that ruled India. > >> To be able to oppress others requires positions of power. > >> The Brahmin’s traditional occupation was that of temple > >> priest (purohit) officiating religious functions. Their sole > >> income was Biksha (alms) > >> given by the land-lords (non-Brahmins). And another section > >> of Brahmins were teachers, that too without salary. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Vedic literature was mostly written by non-Brahmins! > >> The most powerful of the dharma shaastra, that gives > >> Brahmins a high status, is the Manusmriti written by Manu, a > >> non-Brahmin. Brahmin means a profession (Varna) then, not a > >> caste. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > If the reading and writing of Sanskrit was confined to > >> Brahmins then how do you have the tribal Valmiki composing > >> Ramayana? Ved Vyas, who classified four vedas and wrote > >> Mahabharata, was born to a fisher-woman. Sanskrit was used > >> mostly by non-Brahmin writers > >> - there are very few scriptures in Sanskrit authored by > >> Brahmins. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > We consider the teachings of Ved Vyas, Vashishtha, > >> Valmiki, Krishna, Rama, Agasthya, Vishwamitra, Shrunga, > >> Gowthama, Buddha, Mahavira, Tulsidas, Thiruvalluvar, > >> Kabir, Vivekananda, Gandhi, Narayana guru etc as most > >> valuable. If none of them were Brahmins > >> why cry so much about Brahmin didn't allow you to > >> learn? There are numerous works on bhakti by non-Brahmin > >> bhakti saints. Brahmins never prevented others from > >> learning. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Brahmins were neither rich nor powerful at any point of > >> time in history. Pick up any old Indian story book, you will > >> see ‘Garib Brahmin’ (Poor Brahmin) quoted as a virtue. > >> (Remember Kuchela-Krishna story?) Though their profession > >> was considered as highest > >> stature of the society, the Brahmin ascetics' only way > >> of survival was alms given by people. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > The biggest contribution of Brahmins is sustaining the > >> best language ever spoken in the earth - Sanskrit. If you > >> learn English or Arab, you have commercial benefits. Nobody > >> ever promoted Sanskrit. Without any benefits, Brahmins took > >> up voluntary task of learning > >> Sanskrit. Then, now you accuse them of monopoly in > >> Sanskrit! > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Dr.B.R. Ambedkar, the father of Indian constitution, > >> stated that “untouchability” began in Indian > >> sub-continent after 400 AD, when beef-eaters shunned as > >> “untouchables.” When people of India were forced to > >> embrace Islam by Muslim invaders, lot of Hindus, > >> including those in the professions of Brahmin and Kshatriya > >> among others decided they would not accept Islam at any cost > >> – even if they die. To destroy their dharmabhiman > >> (religious pride), swabhiman (self-respect) and > >> rashtraabhiman (pride in nationality), > >> they were forced into carrying the night soil and engage in > >> leather-work. This is how Scheduled Castes were created. > >> They were forced to eat cow-meat. Then marked them as lower > >> caste. Peace-loving people were pushed into “unclean > >> occupations” because they > >> refused to bow before invaders and convert to invader's > >> religions during the medieval times, thus making them > >> “untouchables", as per lot of historians. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Whatever, it is obvious that caste system and evil > >> practices like Sati were introduced after around AD 500, > >> thanks to insecurity created among Indians by invaders! > >> Slavery was unheard in India till then. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > All ancient literature gives highest position to > >> Brahmins, because of the virtue and ethics they upheld. Can > >> you quote a single incident of violence by those > >> "merciless Brahmins" ever happened anywhere? > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Historical evidences show that poor hapless Brahmins > >> were beheaded by Arabian invaders, crucified in Goa by the > >> Portuguese Inquisition, vilified by British missionaries, > >> and morally crucified today by their own brothers and > >> sisters. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Aurangzeb massacred 150,000 Brahmins and their families > >> in Benares, Ganga gnat, Haridwar, etc... He wouldn't eat > >> his everyday breakfast without seeing a bunch of > >> "janeoos" (holy thread) soaked in the blood of > >> Brahmins after killing them! > >> > >> > > >> > >> > The brutal and fanatic barbarians from Portugese > >> mercilessly persecuted and killed lakhs of Konkani Brahmins > >> who refused to get converted, in Konkan-Goa. The brutal > >> barbarian Francis Xavier, who led the massacre, later > >> canonized as Saint. > > >> > > >> > >> > Sarawat Brahmins were living peacefully in Kashmir and > >> Gandhara desa-regions-(part of today’s Afghan-Pakistan > > >> included) area. You can't see them there now. The > >> foreign invaders killed thousands of Saraswats. Pundits, the > >> original inhabitants of Kashmir were > >> tortured and driven out of their dwellings in Kashmir. > >> Genocide of Kashmiri Pundits has reached its climax with > >> terrorism succeeding in ‘CLEANSING’ the valley of this > >> ancient ethno-religious community. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Dr. Ambedkar quoting Muslim historians says the first > >> act of religious zeal by Mohammad bin Qasim, the first Arab > >> invader, was circumcision of Brahmins. “But, after they > >> objected, he put all above the age of seventeen to > >> death.” > >> > >> > > >> > >> > In early 19th century, Tipu Sultan's army descended > >> in Melkote on a Deepavali day and massacred 800 citizens, > >> mostly of a sect known as Mandyam Iyengars. He was a fanatic > >> killer. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Brahmins, who historically dedicated their lives for > >> the sake of dharma and the welfare of the society, are still > >> persecuted in modern India for their falsely alleged sins of > >> the past!!! > >> > >> > > >> > >> > The anti-Brahmin theory was planned and successfully > >> planted by hostile religious invaders, colonialist and > >> missionaries of conversion and by politicians to keep the > > >> public blind and at the same time rob Indians off > >> everything. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > This baseless theory was propagated by Leftists, > >> priests and religious leaders from hostile aggressive > >> religions, separatists and casteists, die-hard fans of > >> invaders, the British etc. And modern literate believe in > >> this utter non-sense! > >> > >> > > >> > >> > When they attack Brahmins, their target is unmistakably > >> Hinduism! > >> > >> > > >> > >> > The prayer of a Brahmin was: “Loka Samastha Sukino > >> Bhavantu” (May all the beings in all the worlds be happy). > >> In turn, the world is trying to crucify them, for no fault > >> of them. Brahmins are never involved in any caste-based > >> violence in India TILL this day! > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > People ask me: was everything about Brahmin > >> all good?" > >> > >> > > >> > >> > "No - Some Brahmins certainly would have > >> manipulated caste system - just as they do in political > >> parties or religious groups. Insecure Brahmin communities > >> may have later developed into closely held groups or castes > >> for survival. There were also few exceptions > >> among Brahmins as a community - like Peshwa Chitpawan > >> Brahmins, Namboodiri chieftains of Kerala, Bhumihar > >> chieftains of Bihar, few short lived minor kingdoms like > >> Anangpal, Jaipal and Bhamini - who were either rich or > >> powerful. There were Brahmins who exploited > >> others using there status in the society making use of > >> situations, just like corrupt Bureaucrats. They are few, > >> not even one percent of the Brahmin. Should we generalize > >> the whole community for the mistakes done by a small section > >> among them?" > >> > >> > > >> > >> > During feudal times, the land-owning class (Zamindars) > >> oppressed dalits. Even today, OBCs also oppressed the > >> dalits. But Brahmins became the scapegoat. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > There is so much of vicious propaganda against Brahmins > >> that the modern Brahmin always felt apologetic, for the > >> oppression allegedly committed by the Brahmin class on the > >> lower class. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Brahmins have been torch bearers of spiritual > >> knowledge, upheld the spiritual and cultural legacy, kept > >> the sanctified rituals alive and gave a distinct identity to > >> sanatan dharma. Brahmin-bashing is reverse discrimination, > >> another form of discrimination > >> nonetheless! It’s very unfair to marginalize such an > >> important community from Indian political relevance and > >> discourse. Caste was always just a political tool of > >> rulers. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Brahmins were pushed to bottom in level of importance > >> and treated as villains (scape goat) in the caste based > >> politics since elections/democracy meant use of populist > >> methods which was easy to sell. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > For many past centuries, mostly Christians and Muslims > >> were ruling India. Do we have to blame Brahmins for > >> everything that went wrong in India? Brahmins have never > >> ruled India. Even after Independence, if Castiesm exists in > >> India, who are to blame other than > >> rulers? > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Modern Brahmins having abandoned their traditional way > >> of life and being cut off from their traditions, suffer from > >> an unjustified guilt complex and have swallowed this > >> suppression propaganda uncritically. Caught between the > >> greed of the masses, the unscrupulousness > >> of the politicians and the malice of the real exploiters, > >> they are persecuted mercilessly in modern India. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > There have always been deliberate attempts to confuse > >> the concept of Brahmanism with the caste of Brahmins in > >> India. Caste system, introduced during medieval period > >> because of invaders, is absolutely wrong. It’s against > >> Sanatan Dharma. > > >> According to our ancestors, everybody should > >> thrive to become a real Brahmin. For the sake of a beautiful > > >> green world, let's support Brahmanism that propagates > >> non-violence and peace. > >> --a > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to thatha_patty+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.