Re: [Thunar-dev] Thunar time modified

2011-06-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven., 2011-06-17 at 09:47 +0100, Allan Kelly wrote:
> Hi, I've recently moved to xfce and the main thing that I miss is
> modified time as well as modified date in the file manager.
> 
> This doesn't seem to be an available option. Before I dive into the
> code, is this a feature that's underway? If not, or if so & I can
> help, I can code.
> 
> 'About' says Thunar 1.0.1

Column view has a "Modified date" column and you can select the format
in the preferences.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] focus parent dir on Alt+Up

2011-05-28 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam., 2011-05-28 at 00:12 +0200, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> Which version of Thunar are you using? I'm not sure when it was
> implemented but it works in Thunar 1.3.x and probably in Thunar 1.2.x
> as well (but that I'd have to check). 

I can confirm it works in 1.2.2.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] "Ejecting" USB flash drives

2011-02-23 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 17:57 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> But why do you need to unmount at all then? Just eject once you now
> longer intend to have the device connected to your machine. 

Because I don't want to keep stuff mounted when I don't need it.
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Re: [Thunar-dev] "Ejecting" USB flash drives

2011-02-23 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 17:45 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> Please show me a valid use case where
> this is important and I might rethink my perspective. I can only think
> of "oops, I forgot to copy this file to the USB stick, now I need to
> mount it again" so far. 

When you have multiple partitions or drives on the device. And no, these
are not only for geeks, think smartphones with internal memory + sdcard
or card readers with multiple slots.

If “eject” remove all of them at once, it's a bit painful.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] "Ejecting" USB flash drives

2011-02-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 17:42 +0100, Harald Judt wrote:
> I do not want that; I want the USB flash drive in my list as long as it 
> is physically attached to the computer. "Eject" is wrong here anyway, 
> you can't eject it like you can a CD or DVD. How can I revert this 
> annoying behaviour? 

Note that eject does make sense for some usb devices. First, that means
it unmounts all the partitions at once and it stops the power. Secondly,
in some cases (“smart” devices like media player, phones etc.) it's
required to eject and not just unmount.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] get Nautilus list view to work in Thunar ?

2010-09-24 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven., 2010-09-24 at 19:33 +0300, Face wrote:
> Is it possible to get Nautilus list view to work in Thunar ?

It's not. Only views are detailed list, compact list, icon.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Opened Thunar window makes mount.ntfs-3g consume too much CPU time.

2010-05-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 18/05/2010 17:59, v...@ukr.net wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 2010 17:48:26 +0200
> Yves-Alexis Perez  wrote:
> 
>> On 18/05/2010 17:29, v...@ukr.net wrote:
>>>> .. nobody uses cpufreqd
>>>   A similar question: what can you advise to use instead?
>>
>> Nothing. As long as you can, just use ondemand cpufreq governor, and
>> don't change.
>   Yes, I do usually use 'ondemand' governor. But I do also use cpufreqd
> daemon to switch between different governors (and a maximum frequency)
> depending on the current CPU temperature (for example, if cpufreqd sees
> that the CPU is overheated, it can temporarily switch to 'powersave'
> governor and after the CPU cools - back to 'ondemand' governor). So,
> cpufreqd daemon and 'ondemand' governor exist not for the same
> purpose. :)

You should let the CPU do its job. It nows better how to keep itself
cool, userspace is usually bad at this.

>   By the way, I'm talking about a laptop now, where power saving and
> keeping the CPU as cool as possible makes sense.

And so it makes sense to use ondemand.
>>
>> Cheers,
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>> Yves-Alexis
> But that is all off-topic. Can you say something about the "Thunar +
> ntfs-3g" problem which I described earlier?

No, I don't use ntfs-3g nor cpufreqd

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Opened Thunar window makes mount.ntfs-3g consume too much CPU time.

2010-05-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 18/05/2010 17:29, v...@ukr.net wrote:
>> .. nobody uses cpufreqd
>   A similar question: what can you advise to use instead?

Nothing. As long as you can, just use ondemand cpufreq governor, and
don't change.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Tabs in Thunar

2010-04-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2010-04-18 at 23:23 +0200, Adrien ANDRE wrote:
> Like my firefox, i'd like to launch thunar once for all when i log in 
> and close it when i log off.

Thunar's already running as a daemon anyway, so when you run a new
thunar, it's not a new instance, just a new window.
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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman usage survey

2010-01-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 11/01/2010 23:04, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> In order to resolve this (as in: make a decision about the future of
> thunar-volman that satisfies most people without causing too much
> work ;)), I'm interested in knowing what parts of thunar-volman are
> enabled by our users (yes, this means you!). So, if you're using
> thunar-volman, please fill out the following survey (it's very short,
> one checkbox for each of the features):
> 
>   http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/R2KYSND
> 
The only feature I use in thunar-volman is not on the list: it'll
automagically ask for your password when it detects encrypted device
(using luks). Current thunar is able to do that but only because gvfs
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to install exo-1 ?

2010-01-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 11/01/2010 08:21, Dmitrij Smirnov wrote:
> Hello dear friends.
> 
> At this moment using Thunar 1.0.0 with Xfce 4.6
> Trying to compile thunar from GIT with ./autogen.sh and recived next error:
> 
> checking for exo-1 >= 0.5.1... not found
> *** The required package exo-1 was not found on your system.
> *** Please install exo-1 (atleast version 0.5.1) or adjust
> *** the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
> *** installed the package in a nonstandard prefix so that
> *** pkg-config is able to find it.
> 
> I have exo-1.0.103 on my system.
> Maybe you can help me to compile ? In the forums I have not any information
> Thanks in advance!
> 
Thunar 1.0.0 doesn't need exo-1, I think you're confusing with Thunar
1.1.0. Thunar 1.1.0 is a development release toward Xfce 4.8, requiring
development release of some libs (like exo, libxfce4ui, libxfce4util etc.)

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Patch for adding emblem support to thunarx master

2009-12-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2009-12-06 at 16:33 -0500, Adam Plumb wrote:
> The patch file is attached.  I can also attach my test extension that
> demonstrates the functionality if anyone is interested.
> 
> I'd appreciate any feedback on my work, and hopefully this will get accepted
> into the thunar master branch. 

Thanks for that. I don't have the skills to investigate on that, but I
think the best thing to do would be to open a bug on bugzilla.xfce.org,
explaining what the patch does (or maybe there already is a wishlist bug
for that feature) and attach the patch there.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Ownership of auto-mounted devices

2009-08-04 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2009-08-05 at 15:38 +1000, Jonathan Hepburn wrote:
> I had already installed ntfs-3g and restarted hal, but I noticed that
> there were ntfs utils I didn't have installed so, just to be safe,
> installed them, which seems to have fixed the problem.
> 
> I think I may file a bug report with Debian about possible
> dependencies/suggestions. 

You'll have hard time finding the correct package for that. There's no
way Thunar, exo or whatever in Xfce stack would depends, recommends or
even suggest ntfs utils (or, for that matter, any filesystem utils). And
I don't think, imho, hal or mount should do that either.

Basically, tools are here for basic support of most common filesystems
(ext*, vfat), and for weirder options (yes, like ntfs), you should take
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Notes Application

2009-05-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun, 2009-05-18 at 22:38 -0300, Felipe Sá wrote:
> 
> Can anyone tell what notes application is being used in the following 
> screenshot?

xfce4-notes-plugin (and x...@xfce.org might be a better list for that
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Thunar 0.9.3 locks desktop when mouse -> Create Document...

2009-04-21 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar, 2009-04-21 at 19:30 -0700, Rob wrote:
> My linux PC (and server) usually runs non-stop 24 hrs/day for weeks.
> Having to power off and on my linux system once or twice a day,
> because I accidentally used that particular Right-Mouse-Click menu
> of Thunar, is pretty bad too

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Thunar 0.9.3 locks desktop when mouse -> Create Document...

2009-04-21 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar, 2009-04-21 at 08:30 -0700, Rob wrote:
> 
> Why does it create that listing in the "Create Document"
> submenu? And why my mouse becomes totally
> responseless while Thunar is busy learning about my
> home directory?

I think your “Template” folder is your home folder, so every file in
your homedir is treated as a template for a new file. If you have a very
full homedir it might be really bad.

I don't know exactly how to fix the problem but only creating a
Templates folder in your homedir might do the trick. You might want to
edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and run xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update too.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] "changed" signal and emblems.

2009-02-08 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 01:46:11PM -0200, D.M wrote:
> The thing is that i'm changing file-emblems, and it works...  but Thunar
> doesn't reflect the changes. If i restart Thunar it works.

How do you change it? Using the interface? Becaus here it works. Do you
have gamin/fam running?

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Re: [Thunar-dev] columns UI

2008-12-14 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim, 2008-12-14 at 10:20 -0500, Ian Katz wrote:
> Absolutely!  Where is your bug tracker located?

bugzilla.xfce.org (first google answer on xfce bug tracker, btw)
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to make thunar know about file associations?

2008-12-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2008-12-12 at 11:07 +0100, Georg Simon wrote:
> 
> Similar problem :
> My Thunar one week ago decided to treat program files as x-font files.
> So I'm not longer able to start programs by double clicking.
> Starting bash scripts by double clicking still works.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] ANN: thunar-volman version 0.3.80 released

2008-09-15 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar, 2008-09-16 at 08:08 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> 
> Hm, indeed, but that is just to make sure people get the exo-eject
> with
> teardown support for LUKS encrypted volumes.

By the way, about that. I think there's a few issues on how it's managed
(but undersantand it's done like this to minimize changes on other
components).

Currently, when I plug a usb token containing some clear partitions and
an encrypted one, thunar-volman asks me if I want to setup the crypto
layer. If I refuse because I don't want to use it now, I won't be able
to redo this later, until I unplug/replug the key.

Similarily, if I setup the crypto layer, mount the encrypted partition,
then eject it, teardowning the crypto layer, I won't be able to remount
it later.

I understand it would requires modifications in thunar (like the first
patches Colin submitted), but from an usability pov I find this better.

Anyway, many thanks for integrating the crypto layer stuff. Even with
the restrictions stated above, it rocks :)
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Cannot change file default action in Thunar

2008-08-16 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam, 2008-08-16 at 15:31 +0400, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
> I have found a strange solution - when selecting application in "Open
> with" dialog, one should select desired app and then select to use
> custom command. So the command field will contain desired app run
> command. BTW after that in ~/.local/share/applications files named
> like
> "xxx-usercreated-nnn.desktop" are created.
> I have also found that when thunar is started as root, all works fine.

So you may have permissions problems?
> 
> Maybe, the problem is that /usr/share/applications is not writable by
> non-root?

As you said earlier, local modifications are stored
in .local/share/applications, not in /usr/share/applications. Maybe try
to look in .local/share/applications and see if you have correct
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Cannot change file default action in Thunar

2008-08-15 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2008-08-15 at 21:09 +0400, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
> Example: I have just installed a new image viewer and now I want to
> view all images of any type with it. I select XXX image file and open
> its properties. IMPORTANT: in Properties window there is "No
> application selected" in "Open with" list. I select "Other
> application..." in "Open with" list, select desired app and press OK -
> "Open with" list does not change :(
> I can also use "Open with other application" from file context menu.
> Surely it is opened, but my choice is not remembered.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Cannot change file default action in Thunar

2008-08-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2008-08-13 at 23:08 +0400, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
> >Does it work using english or C locales?
> 
> No, it does not. But I get no warnings or error messages in console
> with them.

Ok so it's not a locale issue. What you want to do is change the “open
with” application? What do you exaclty do?

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Cannot change file default action in Thunar

2008-08-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 02:19:01PM +0400, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
> My locale is KOI8-R. Thunar version is 0.9.0 (deb).

Does it work using english or C locales?

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Re: [Thunar-dev] A few issues with Thunar volume management

2008-05-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:27:45AM +, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Denís Fernández Cabrera wrote:
> > Hello, everyone.
> > 
> > I have been using Thunar for a while, and I think by far that it is
> > the best file manager out there --- it's fast, it's simple, and it
> > does what it must.
> > 
> > But I have a problem managing volumes with several partitions in
> > Thunar, using the automatic volume management provided: I have a 512MB
> > external HD with three partitions, which get automounted whenever I
> > plug it in. But:
> > 
> > - Whenever I unmount one of the partitions, the other ones get
> > unmounted too (actually, all the HD). The partition I unmounted
> > disapears from the location sidebar in Thunar, but not the other ones.
> > - If I click on one of the non-unmounted partitions, Thunar will
> > remount it *and* the previously unmounted partition will appear again
> > in the sidebar.
> 
> Yes, that's the expected behavior. Tho, it could indeed be improved.

Yes, even if it clutters a bit the interface, I still think that umounting a
partition is not exactly the same thing as ejecting a device, and thus it
could deserve an independant command.

Btw, xfce4-places-plugin can do just that (it umounts without ejecting), so
one can use it to umount, and use thunar for eject. It means using two
"applications", but it's still a working workaround.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] eject usb-harddrive

2008-04-29 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 03:51:07PM +, Simon Steinbeiß wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:45:40 +0200
> Tino Keitel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > What about exo-eject /dev/wdpassport ?
> 
> tried that before, gives me:
> exo-eject: Must specify HAL device UDI or device file.

exo-eject -d /dev/wdpassport
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Re: [Thunar-dev] eject usb-harddrive

2008-04-29 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 01:33:11PM +, Simon Steinbeiß wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I would like to implement the workaround that Kirill Belokurov wrote for KDE 
> for this bug
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/117713) for thunar. Since this bug 
> applies to
> only a very limited range of harddrives (I guess it's only the WD Passport 
> series) no one
> has really cared for a bugfix (yet).
> 
> Anyways, I think that it could be sufficient as a workaround to:
> - either have a customised action in thunar only be applied to this specific 
> drive and
> spinning it down
> - or trying to hack whatever function is used by thunar to "eject" media like
> usb-harddrives so that it would not just unmount but also spindown the drive.
> 
> If anyone here has a suggestion which of the two options is way to go, that 
> would be
> great. Also I'm not sure whether I could implement either of the two options 
> without your
> help.

Using 'eject' doesnt work either?

Maybe a more general solution (using hal or udev rules, or something like
that) would be better, and cross-desktop?
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2008-01-09 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez

On mer, 2008-01-09 at 11:22 -0800, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> 
> > By the way (and this is a new thread I guess), for some devices it's ok to
> > have eject and umount. The only one I'm thinking of is RW CD/DVD where if 
> > the
> > cd is mounted you can't blank it. Now you want to unmount it but you can 
> > only
> > eject it, so you do that and reinsert it. Now you have activated 
> > automounting,
> > and hop, restart the loop.
> 
> No no no no no.  The program (GUI program, presumably) that handles the 
> CD blanking should know how to unmount the CD if necessary.  This is a 
> useless implementation detail, and there's zero reason to expose this in 
> the user interface.  If the user is going to use a CLI program to do the 
> blanking, they're certainly capable of unmounting the CD manually (or, 
> hell, the CLI program should do it for you).  IMO 'Unmount' should 
> *never* be in a user interface that most users see[1].
> 
>   -brian
> 
> [1] Obviously an advanced GUI disk partitioning/formating/etc. utility 
> type application might have an unmount action, but that's different.

Hmh, yeah, good point. I don't know if there are cases where the GUI
should present both options. I was using wodim when this issue
appeared. 
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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2008-01-09 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 01:22:34PM +, Tino Keitel wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:36:04 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> > Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > >>> I can confirm that I have no "Eject" button in the shortcuts pane
> > >>> without the patch, and and "Eject" button with the patch.
> > >> Committed. Bug Brian to fix xfdesktop as well.
> > > 
> > > Are there patches against 4.4.2?
> > 
> > http://thunar.xfce.org/download/sources/Thunar/0.9.0/Thunar-0.9.0-use-eject-where-necessary.patch
> 
> I think that Yves-Alexis asked for an official patch for xfdesktop4. My
> version can be found here:
> 
> http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3738
> 
> Brian already commented it[1], and I use it for several weeks now on 2
> computers.
> 
You'll be glad, Simon Huggins just uploaded an xfdesktop with your patch :)

By the way (and this is a new thread I guess), for some devices it's ok to
have eject and umount. The only one I'm thinking of is RW CD/DVD where if the
cd is mounted you can't blank it. Now you want to unmount it but you can only
eject it, so you do that and reinsert it. Now you have activated automounting,
and hop, restart the loop.

Ok you can disable automounting for that time, but having a way to unmount
without ejecting (ok, pmount or exo-unmount works too, but from UI...) would
be nice.

But I agree this is not the same problem.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2007-12-12 at 10:16 -0800, Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> I do have issues with using the term "Eject" here.  It makes sense
> for 
> optical or tape drives, but not really for (e.g.) USB flash drives. 

Somebody just told me that vfat fs are not totally sync()ed at umount,
that you needed to send and eject so everything is clean properly. I
don't have any source but it may be a good idea to provide this :)

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Re: [Thunar-dev] How to use the eject function

2007-12-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar, 2007-12-11 at 20:31 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Tino Keitel wrote:
> > I can confirm that I have no "Eject" button in the shortcuts pane
> > without the patch, and and "Eject" button with the patch.
> 
> Committed. Bug Brian to fix xfdesktop as well.

Are there patches against 4.4.2?

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Re: [Thunar-dev] backup files

2007-11-08 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 08:59:50AM +, Pablo Hdez-M. Saiz wrote:
> Yes I know, but I want only backup files, NOT HIDDEN ones.

Please don't top post.
If you don't want to see hiden files, just deselect the option. What's the
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Re: [Thunar-dev] backup files

2007-11-07 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu, 2007-11-08 at 00:20 +0100, Pablo Hdez-M. Saiz wrote:
> 
> How can I see the backup files (files that end with "~") but not the
> hidden ones ?
> Does anyone knows what source file and where I need to edit ?

You can use the shortcut Ctrl+H in Thunar to see hidden files. Or see in
View menu, Show Hidden Files.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Exif Metadata Columns

2007-06-24 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On sam, 2007-06-23 at 18:44 -0400, Shawn Zier wrote:
> I am looking for a way to manage my photos through the file manager.
> What I'm looking for is the ability to add EXIF metadata columns in
> the file manager. If you know a way to do this, please let me know. I
> see that thunar is able to query this metadata through the properties
> pane, but it does not look like it has the ability to add columns for
> the EXIF data. How much work would it be to add this feature and would
> it conflict with thunar's goal of being as lightweight as possible.
> Right now, I am not looking to edit the metadata in thunar, just to
> display and sort by it.

I don't think there's currently a way to display directly EXIF metada in
details columns, but they are available if you go to file properties
(using right clic).

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Re: [Thunar-dev] usb stick does't mount

2007-04-03 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
First, this is definitively not the place to talk about that, there are
debian-xfce lists.

On mar, 2007-04-03 at 21:59 -0700, eklektik wrote:
> From some unknown reason, the maintainer of the corsac.net repository
> compiled  4.4 without hal support.

I kind of know him very well. This repository is more than experimental
and shouldn't be used if you don't exactly know what you are doing, an
in any case we don't provide support on it. exo is built without hal
support for i386 because I don't own one so it's kind of difficult for
me to build package for this architecture, and thus haven't uploaded
corrected packages

I really urge you to read http://www.corsac.net/?rub=xfce and blog
entries about Xfce there http://www.corsac.net/?cat=3
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Re: [Thunar-dev] usb stick does't mount

2007-04-03 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar, 2007-04-03 at 06:58 -0700, eklektik wrote:
> I enabled debian unstable repository and used synaptic.

Xfce 4.4 isn't in debian unstable so I suppose you're using experimental
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Re: [Thunar-dev] usb stick does't mount

2007-04-02 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun, 2007-04-02 at 20:58 -0700, eklektik wrote:
> exo-mount: Cannot mount by HAL device UDI, because HAL support was
> disabled for this build.
> 
> How can I fix this problem? 

Use an hal-enabled build. How did you install 4.4?
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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar, fam & gamin

2007-01-19 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2007-01-19 at 20:44 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Building with FAM then switching to Gamin will work, but not the other
> way around, since FAM lacks the FamNoExists function. 

Ok so I'll switch to build against libfam so users could then chose to
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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar, fam & gamin

2007-01-19 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven, 2007-01-19 at 19:30 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> I have a question about thunar and file monitoring. If thunar is built
> with fam support, will it work with gamin installed. If yes (iirc fam
> is
> a superset of gamin, or something like that ?), will it try to run
> gam_server when run ? Or something else should run it so everything
> work ? 

Answers to myself: it's ok to build thunar with fam support and then
install gamin (here libfam can be provided by gamin). Don't know if it's
optimal or not. Benny ?

gam_server should be started by calls to (f|g)am library. Sometimes it's
not started here, I guess. (i just had some problem about this, but did
another test and then it worked..)

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[Thunar-dev] thunar, fam & gamin

2007-01-19 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
I have a question about thunar and file monitoring. If thunar is built
with fam support, will it work with gamin installed. If yes (iirc fam is
a superset of gamin, or something like that ?), will it try to run
gam_server when run ? Or something else should run it so everything
work ?

If my questions are not so clear, please ask precisions :)

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Re: [Thunar-dev] DBUS problems

2006-10-04 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 23:30 -0600, Kier Elliott wrote:
> My question is: why was I able to build and 
> install successfully, isn't the dbus version checked at some point 
> during the configure/build process? 

I guess you built thunar (or the package you installed were built)
against libdbus-1.so.2 then you upgraded your system and libdbus-1.so.3
was installed. Reinstall old libdus or rebuild thunar against new dbus.


>  And second, is there some way I can 
> get around this or do I have to track down an old dbus package with
> the 
> correct shared library version? 

I guess the package management system should have prevented this, but..
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[Thunar-dev] fam & gamin support in thunar

2006-06-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Hi people.

Thunar Debian package is currently built against gamin, and depends on
this package, to provide file monitoring. But gnome debian team decided
to orphan this package [0], because gnome-vfs now has inotify support,
so they don't need (on linux) another file monitoring tool. 

On a blog post, benny said [1] that he recommended gamin over fam, and I
(we) wanted to know what was its point, now. (and opinions from the
list, too).

We (debian team) currently have some choices:
* do nothing, and hope somebody adopt gamin package or that it doesnt
break
* adopt gamin package and try to keep it working (it seems that it's not
developped anymore upstream), at least for us (don't know the workload)
* switch to fam (we don't really like this because benny recommended
gamin and we don't really like the "system service" thing over the "user
daemon" one

I wanted to ask people about the gamin/fam preference currently. Do you
have any thoughts ? :)

Benny, do you have any plan to add inotify support to thunar-vfs at one
time, or really don't want to include that (linux-specific) thing and
want to keep it separate, using some third-party app ?

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[0]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=375226
[1]:
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Re: [Thunar-dev] B1 weirdness

2006-05-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 16:22 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Please try the attached patch.

it works here, thanks :)
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Re: [Thunar-dev] B1 weirdness

2006-05-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 13:49 +0200, Roberto Pariset wrote:
> PS: Jari: what write permissions do you need? -rw-r--r--? Because if I
> have 
> those nothing is changing for me.

try with a file which doesnt belongs to you
> 
> PPS: is the /usr/share/applications bug and the .desktop bug the same
> bug 
> or it's two unrelated things? 

>From an user point of view, unrelated, my thunar is patched and displays
correctly /usr/share/applications. Maybe it's related in the code,
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Re: [Thunar-dev] B1 weirdness

2006-05-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 14:18 +0300, Jari Rahkonen wrote:
> As I said in a previous email, this works for me (in svn trunk) as
> long
> as I haven't got write permissions to the .desktop file. So the root
> owned files under /usr don't exhibit the bug for me. Try copying the
> file somewhere (so that you get ownership and write permissions) and
> then checking the launcher tab in the properties dialog.

Ok, you're right. Copying Thunar.desktop to my desktop, opening
properties in Thunar, clicking on launcher tab, window disappear (only
properties, no thunar).

Switching tabs with keyboard works.

Opening properties with xfdesktop works, I can go to launcher, but as
soon as I open the "Launcher" tab, it creates another .desktop file on
the desktop. Then, when I close the properties, it creates another one.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] B1 weirdness

2006-05-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 23:55 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> > Sure. Thunar B1 .desktop is an example. I also noticed (but it
> requires
> > more testing) that clicking on another label (!Launcher) and then
> moving
> > to Launcher with cursors doesn't seem to make it crash. Maybe it's a
> gtk
> > problem?
> 
> Only the dialog closes, right? This does not crash Thunar? Can you
> reproduce it with xfdesktop? 

With the patch you pointed me to, I can right clic on the Thunar.desktop
(on /usr/share/applications), go to properties, clicking on launcher.
Everything work. 

Thunar 0.3.0beta1 + patch you provided.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] B1 weirdness

2006-04-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 09:58 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Looks like #1696 [1], you can check the patch attached to the bug.

Ah yes, sorry I didn't check the bugzilla. That patch works, and will be
applied to debian sources. Thanks :)

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Re: [Thunar-dev] B1 weirdness

2006-04-29 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 22:04 +0200, Stefan Stuhr wrote:
> It happens for me too, with latest libexo and Thunar SVN. It happens
> with _any_ desktop file I can read and write to. And most often,
> "after
> a while" is almost instantly. 

Trying to reproduce that bug I found another weirdness. Trying to
open /usr/share/applications makes thunar crash instantly (well, even
when I type the path in the pathbar and it tries to complete, it crash)

The error is:

(thunar:30504): thunar-vfs-CRITICAL **:
thunar_vfs_mime_database_get_info_for_name: assertion `strchr (name,
'/') == NULL' failed

Strace and gdb backtrace:

http://heracles.corsac.net/~corsac/thunar.strace
http://heracles.corsac.net/~corsac/thunar.gdb

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Re: [Thunar-dev] (small?) Feature request

2006-04-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 15:47 +0200, Christian Göbel wrote:
> I would be nice to have additional information for the active file or 
> folder in  the Statusbar.
> Right now I can see there "Name" (Size) Type   when clicking on a
> file 

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Screenshots

2006-04-13 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 21:10 -0700, Auke Kok wrote:
> Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> > Moritz Heiber wrote:
> >>> http://thunar.xfce.org/screenshots-user.html
> >> Benny,
> >>
> >> you should probably consider adding thumbnails to the main website
> >> instead of the plain, resized screenshots. Just a thought ..
> > 
> > Good idea. Does anybody volunteer to create the thumbnails and send them
> > to me? ;)
> > 
> 
> in ~sofar/thunar-thumbs/ on mocha - as .gif (smallest size vs graphics 
> quality)

Btw I've done it yesterday evening, so the page has thumbnails atm. 

@benny: i've uploaded a new tarball (same place) with 400px width
thumbnails if you prefer (atm they're 340 and there is an width=400 in
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Screenshots

2006-04-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 00:57 +0200, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Good idea. Does anybody volunteer to create the thumbnails and send
> them
> to me? ;) 

I can do the whole if you provide me all the files in a common way to
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Screenshots

2006-03-28 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 21:42 +0200, Broeisi Rast wrote:
> I just want a simple cd player just like gnome-cd but without all the
> dependancies.
> Just GTK2 and nothing else... 

isn't xfmedia ok for that ?
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Re: [Thunar-dev] Some inconveniences in my point of view

2006-02-18 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 15:03 +0800, Li Jason wrote:
> Hi, I noticed the Thunar project some days ago by accident. To tell
> the truth, I like Thunar, it is simple and easy to use, nice and kind.
> But during my trial period, I find some inconvenient problems: 

> 2. When I use the Ctrl+X or Ctrl+C, there is no notification in the
> Thunar, I believe that it is kind of not user-friendly. I suggest that
> there should be some information shown in the Thunar interface when
> the user press Ctrl+X or Ctrl+C. 

When I select some folders/files and hit Ctrl+X, they are greyed out.

> 4. The Thunar could not refresh the active folder by itself, when I
> create a new file or folder in the terminal, and the Thunar has
> already make that folder opened, I hope the Thunar could automatically
> refresh the new file out, but it cannot. Only when I change to another
> folder, and change it back, the new file will be shown in Thunar. 

You should have built Thunar with gamin support

> 5. The Thunar could not create a new file, only the new folder is
> supported.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] rename and case

2006-02-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 10:55 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 23:36 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> > Uhm, that'd be a bug then. In the SVN version this shouldn't be the case
> > (it uses a case sensitive comparison atleast, and I cannot reproduce
> > it). Can you try with SVN?
> 
> I don't have recent enough exo/thunar to test, but if you can't
> reproduce this it must have been fixed in svn and i'm ok with that.

My bad, it was my fault.
I tested on an hfs+ partition, but it works fine on ext3 partition.
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Re: [Thunar-dev] rename and case

2006-02-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 23:36 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Uhm, that'd be a bug then. In the SVN version this shouldn't be the case
> (it uses a case sensitive comparison atleast, and I cannot reproduce
> it). Can you try with SVN?

I don't have recent enough exo/thunar to test, but if you can't
reproduce this it must have been fixed in svn and i'm ok with that.

I may upgrade my exo/thunar to check and will let you know.

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[Thunar-dev] rename and case

2006-02-09 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
I've noticed that in thunar 0.2.0 alpha, I can't rename a file if only
changing the case (ex: Aaa => aaa). It considers that the file exist
yet, and doesn't permit the change.

Should I fill a request on the bugzilla for this ? As I think it can be
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Re: [Thunar-dev] [Fwd: thunar icon]

2006-01-31 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 00:03 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> sofar schrieb:
> > 
> > On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:13:03 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >>>Maybe the viking should conquer the folder/file ?
> >>
> >>That surely would look funny and cool, but that's probably beyond the
> >>possibilities you have with such small icons (even if it's scalable, it
> >>has too look clean when it's scaled down).
> > 
> > 
> > not only that but the idea of a viking pillaging my filesystem and taking
> > women and children is a bit offensive ;^)
> 
> Depends on how you like it. Hehe. But it's true, that sounds more like a
> chaos-spreading virus after all.

What about a shiny viking hugging a folder ?

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Re: [Thunar-dev] [Fwd: thunar icon]

2006-01-31 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 23:04 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
> >>I just changed his a bit, and came up with this. Anybody like it?
> >>
> >>http://crimsonblade.homelinux.com/downloads/ThunarFolder.svg
> > 
> > Hmm, looks more like a viking trying to hide himself behind a rock than
> > a file manager.
> 
> Kinda yes. Maybe we should just use the helmet without any files/folders
> in the icon?

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Thunar feature Requests

2006-01-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Roberto Pariset wrote:
> That would be the best choice I think, as it preserves the easy
> environment but allows advanced features :P
> Is it possible to have plugins do that much?


There won't be plugin interface for Thunar 1.0 at least. But it's open
for the next release, iirc

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Thunar feature Requests

2006-01-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Roberto Pariset wrote:
> Aaron ha scritto:
> 
>>although simple doesnt mean feature raped. i would like simple tabs
>>too, and being able to detach/retach them would be very nice.
> 
> 
> After all a file manager is pretty similar to a browser... I also
> think tabs would be a good and original idea. Maybe they require some
> extra design to make a good/non-confusing job though...

If I recall correctly, this was discussed a long time ago (around last
summer), and their should be traces in the wiki or in ML archives. Maybe
it would be possible to implement tabbed browsing with a plugin, for
next thunar version...

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Re: [Thunar-dev] [Thunar-workers] [DokuWiki] page added: search_integration

2006-01-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> With the basic stuff in place, it's now time to think about the way a search 
> interface should be integrated into Thunar. Since Thunar is now (as was 
> decided) fully navigational, the obvious solution of doing searches in a 
> special window associated with a special (virtual) folder is not available. 

Now that the basic stuff is in place, would it be possible to have
another pre-alpha release ? We have uploaded the first pre-alpha release
into debian archive, and returns from users are good, but this pre-alpha
seems to be far from where you have come.

Would it be possible (and not too time-consuming) to have another
release we could upload ? (I prefer not using daily snapshots, as they
are made for daily testing, and would prefer using a release you would
consider as usable enough to call it *-release :) )

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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar debian package

2005-12-05 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Daniele Favara (nomed) wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> i see a preA version of exo and thunar have been released, is there any
> place where i can apt-get the latest releases?
> 
> even a debian dir + rules file would be fine :) [to build it from
> source]
> 
> thanks

I'm planning to upload them soon. They are in our svn, check here:
http://pkg-xfce.alioth.debian.org/

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Re: [Thunar-dev] GConf? [WAS Re: Problems building new Thunar snapshot]

2005-11-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> There are libexo snapshots available as .deb's (of course, since they're 
> required for the thunar .deb's :-). I plan to make a 0.3.1.1 alpha 
> release, hopefully by the end of this month (but don't hold your breath 
> for it).

I think I'll start on this. :)
> 
> 
>>And
>>to build libexo > 0.3.1 we need xfce-dev-tools, and there is not release
>> either.
> 
> 
> Ehm, there's the 4.3.0 release:
> 
> http://www.foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/xfce4-dev-tools/index.html#stable-releases

Oh, I didn't see it. I'm going to start packaging this soon, I think

> 
> 
>>So we would have to package 3 svn packages before providing
>>thunar, and I don't know if it's a good idea. For the moment we are
>>focusing on uploading 4.2.3.1 to unstable, but then, i'd be happy to
>>participate in thunar packaging.
> 
> 
> There'll also be a 0.2.0 thunar alpha release soon (hopefully).

Great :)
> 
> 
>>For debian, we packages for unstable, but as soon as the packages hit
>>testing, I rebuild packages for stable.
> 
> 
> Well, there's the major problem. The packages will went into 
> experimental first, then to unstable and after some more time to 
> testing. This excludes the most interesting group of testers (the Debian 
> testing users and users of most Debian-derived distros) for the binary 
> packages. It'd therefore be nice if you could provide packages built on 
> Debian/testing (a slightly out-dated testing works best from our 
> experience).

Well, I can/will build testing packages (on sparc, however). I can even
build stable packages, if build-dependencies arent too awful :)


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Re: [Thunar-dev] GConf? [WAS Re: Problems building new Thunar snapshot]

2005-11-12 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Benedikt Meurer wrote:
> 
> I planned to upload new debs of libexo and thunar within the next week. 
> It'd be nice if you could build the packages; I can upload them. But the 
> packages should be build on Debian/testing, so they continue to work on 
> other Debian derived distributions.

Hey Benny,
I'm from the debian pkg-xfce team. I had the project to start packaging
thunar before the official release, but some things delayed me. Thunar
depends on libexo >= 0.3.1, and there is no release at the moment. And
to build libexo > 0.3.1 we need xfce-dev-tools, and there is not release
 either. So we would have to package 3 svn packages before providing
thunar, and I don't know if it's a good idea. For the moment we are
focusing on uploading 4.2.3.1 to unstable, but then, i'd be happy to
participate in thunar packaging.

For debian, we packages for unstable, but as soon as the packages hit
testing, I rebuild packages for stable.


> Benedikt


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Re: [Thunar-dev] GConf? [WAS Re: Problems building new Thunar snapshot]

2005-11-11 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Auke Kok wrote:
> the only people who have a tough choice are the ones making binary 
> packages ;^)

And they can build-depend on gconf if they want to provide thunar with it.

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Slow media

2005-07-24 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
dannym wrote:
> How to get rid of all those buggy mount options for the major distros
> that mount vfat like if every file on it is executable though? same for
> non-rockridge iso9660, with the flawed reason that a cdrom could contain
> an executable, hence better have everything executable instead of
> nothing (given that there is no info about whether the file is
> executable or not on iso9660 it seems).
> 
> Then again, just writing that somewhere on the thunar page so that not a
> million people come asking "why doesnt it detect any files correctly on
> my windows volume", and using the executable bit nevertheless sounds ok
> too :)

And perhaps thunar could detect if it's a volume without permissions,
and behaves accordingly.

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